Just told a provider "substances" was a no-go for me

[DunwoodyGuy]

I was really, really into him, but then he sent his "Booking Guidelines," which included this:

"First-time meetings may require verification or deposit (10-20%)"

And then this:

"Happy to procure most substances you would like to indulge and/or cut loose with."

I had to walk away. Would you have too?

[jusmeinbr]

I think the vast (and I do mean vast) majority of the members of this forum would.  Deposit is bad enough, but providing “substances,” too as that old saying goes, is “a little too much sugar for a dime!”

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

9 minutes ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

I was really, really into him, but then he sent his "Booking Guidelines," which included this:

"First-time meetings may require verification or deposit (10-20%)"

And then this:

"Happy to procure most substances you would like to indulge and/or cut loose with."

I had to walk away. Would you have too?

Deposits AND Drugs? A double deal-breaker for Bozo.
Wise decision.

BTC
🤡

[Nightowl]

Nope nope nope.  

[DMonDude]

21 minutes ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

I was really, really into him, but then he sent his "Booking Guidelines," which included this:

"First-time meetings may require verification or deposit (10-20%)"

And then this:

"Happy to procure most substances you would like to indulge and/or cut loose with."

I had to walk away. Would you have too?

I would have asked is it verification OR deposit, or verification AND deposit. Because those are two different sets of options. I personally have no issue verifying via video call or something. So if they were giving you the choice between verify or deposit, then you opted out without even making a choice (assuming the main thing you were trying to avoid was just the deposit part).

As far as the drugs, i personally would have just said "no I'm not interested in any drugs, no need for that and i'd prefer you not be on anything during the session". If they resisted to that at all then yes i'd walk away. But just the mere offer or seeing "PNP available" on their profile isn't inherently an issue to me. No provider I've hired who procures or sells has had an issue with keeping that stuff away from me if i simply asked and none i've hired have ever brought it without me asking.

Even those who dabble themselves have never come to a session with me on something and especially don't if i specifically ask them not to. I don't really care what they do in their other personal time or with other clients.

I'd have at least asked a follow up question. But that's just me and has been my experience 🤷‍♂️

Edited Sunday at 11:32 PM by DMonDude

[DunwoodyGuy]

The really annoying thing about this particular request for a deposit (which I never do) is that his ad had expired, and I had just paid the $30 or whatever to reinstate his profile.

Then he asks me for a deposit!

(And offers drugs...)

[Luv2play]

13 minutes ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

The really annoying thing about this particular request for a deposit (which I never do) is that his ad had expired, and I had just paid the $30 or whatever to reinstate his profile.

Then he asks me for a deposit!

(And offers drugs...)

If he is offering drugs and you are presumably paying for them, then that makes him a drug dealer, no?

I wouldn’t be caught dead with a drug dealer in any situation. 

[jusmeinbr]

Since you renewed his membership, you don’t want to provide his RM profile so nobody else (or very, very few guys) waste their time responding to him?

[+ Travis69]

2 hours ago, DMonDude said:

I would have asked is it verification OR deposit, or verification AND deposit. Because those are two different sets of options. I personally have no issue verifying via video call or something. So if they were giving you the choice between verify or deposit, then you opted out without even making a choice (assuming the main thing you were trying to avoid was just the deposit part).

As far as the drugs, i personally would have just said "no I'm not interested in any drugs, no need for that and i'd prefer you not be on anything during the session". If they resisted to that at all then yes i'd walk away. But just the mere offer or seeing "PNP available" on their profile isn't inherently an issue to me. No provider I've hired who procures or sells has had an issue with keeping that stuff away from me if i simply asked and none i've hired have ever brought it without me asking.

Even those who dabble themselves have never come to a session with me on something and especially don't if i specifically ask them not to. I don't really care what they do in their other personal time or with other clients.

I'd have at least asked a follow up question. But that's just me and has been my experience 🤷‍♂️

A very MATURE way to deal with the issues.  People get all out of sorts with just the idea a person might enjoy things they don't.

[DunwoodyGuy]

1 hour ago, jusmeinbr said:

Since you renewed his membership, you don’t want to provide his RM profile so nobody else (or very, very few guys) waste their time responding to him?

Possibly in a PM, by request. I don't believe we should use Company of Men public forums for "revenge posts."

[DunwoodyGuy]

30 minutes ago, Travis69 said:

People get all out of sorts with just the idea a person might enjoy things they don't.

I don't get out of sorts about sex practices a person might enjoy that I don't. But this was not sex--this was DRUGS. Surely even you can see the difference.

[+ Travis69]

6 minutes ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

I don't get out of sorts about sex practices a person might enjoy that I don't. But this was not sex--this was DRUGS. Surely even you can see the difference.

Do you drink alcohol?  If so you might get more fuck*d up then with a joint.  I have left many a bar because of too many drunks.

[DunwoodyGuy]

16 minutes ago, Travis69 said:

Do you drink alcohol?  If so you might get more fuck*d up then with a joint.  I have left many a bar because of too many drunks.

I think you misunderstood--he wasn't suggesting a vodka-soda.

[Mark_fl]

A provider who is dealing or taking them is showing that he is willing to partake in risky behavior. Stay far, far away.

And while alcohol can be just as dangerous, it is at least legal in moderation.

I realize this whole hobby may be illegal in the US, but that doesn't mean we should combine it with illegal mind-altering substances.

[jeezifonly]

It's so easy to be swept away by imagery in profiles, we can sometimes forget to read the fine print. Or any print. Read the words, and you can make better choices, just like our OP here did! 

[BuffaloKyle]

3 hours ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

The really annoying thing about this particular request for a deposit (which I never do) is that his ad had expired, and I had just paid the $30 or whatever to reinstate his profile.

Then he asks me for a deposit!

Yeesh, a deposit is usually sent to show you're serious about meeting. You would think the fact you just spent money on him to renew his membership would be enough.

[Wings246]

5 hours ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

I had to walk away. Would you have too?

Yes for me.  The combination of deposit and drug alone is a double jeopardy already. 

5 hours ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

I had just paid the $30 or whatever to reinstate his profile.

Then he asks me for a deposit!

And now he's asking for more after you paid for his reactivation fee.  That's 3 strikes and he's out for good.

[+ PhileasFogg]

11 hours ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

Possibly in a PM, by request. I don't believe we should use Company of Men public forums for "revenge posts."

How is this revenge?  If his profile says this publicly, you’re simply highlighting it.

At this point, if his ad comment proves a detriment to his business and he removes the reference from his profile, we are collectively ignorant of the inherent risk this guy provides…cuz he’s still going to be doing it  

As others have said - this guy is a DRUG DEALER - and inviting clients into his presence some of whom might be members here  

If you want affirmation, you did the right thing IMO

If you want to be helpful to other members avoiding the risk, sharing his profile is not revenge  

 

Edited 22 hours ago by PhileasFogg

[Rudynate]

15 hours ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

I was really, really into him, but then he sent his "Booking Guidelines," which included this:

"First-time meetings may require verification or deposit (10-20%)"

And then this:

"Happy to procure most substances you would like to indulge and/or cut loose with."

I had to walk away. Would you have too?

In theory, It wouldn't be an issue for me. Just because he P&P's doesn't mean he will be doing it with you.  But, you just never know.  I think I would pass him by unless he was spectacular.

[Nue2thegame]

1 hour ago, PhileasFogg said:

How is this revenge?  If his profile says this publicly, you’re simply highlighting it.

At this point, if his ad comment proves a detriment to his business and he removes the reference from his profile, we are collectively ignorant of the inherent risk this guy provides…cuz he’s still going to be doing it  

As others have said - this guy is a DRUG DEALER - and inviting clients into his presence some of whom might be members here  

If you want affirmation, you did the right thing IMO

If you want to be helpful to other members avoiding the risk, sharing his profile is not revenge  

 

I have no interest in meeting him but I think there’s potential harm in reading too much into this. My guess is that he views his role as a drug “procurer” rather than a “dealer” with a different business model and ethos. He may feel that it’s a hospitable offer on his part to enhance his client’s experience. Not for me but I imagine that many wouldn’t be bothered by this. I’m more troubled by his deposit requirement. 

[+ PhileasFogg]

1 hour ago, Nue2thegame said:

I have no interest in meeting him but I think there’s potential harm in reading too much into this. My guess is that he views his role as a drug “procurer” rather than a “dealer” with a different business model and ethos. He may feel that it’s a hospitable offer on his part to enhance his client’s experience. Not for me but I imagine that many wouldn’t be bothered by this. I’m more troubled by his deposit requirement. 

And that’s different from a dealer in what way?  Unless the handoff and payment occurs with the dealer involved, I’m not sure I see a difference.   

[+ DrownedBoy]

Good. Had a guy ask me if I wanted him to bring poppers. I said no and quickly ghosted him.

[+ purplekow]

I recently had an encounter with a provider I had seen several times over a period of years, the most recent was last month.  He arrived at my home and I offered him something to drink.  He asked for a beer, but I did not have any cold, so I offered some wine or a mixed drink.  He opted for a mixed drink and I brought out a bottle of his preferred alcohol and his mixer of choice.  After pouring himself a drink, he asked if he could go out in the yard and smoke weed.  At this point, it seemed harmless enough.  I jointed him on my porch and after he had smoked we retired for the afternoon's activity.  The session was adequate, but by far the least enjoyable of the 5 or so I had with him prior to this.  He was very nice, did not seem intoxicated and we moved out.  He said he had more time and that he would do another session for no additional fee.  He again asked if he could smoke and he fixed himself another drink.  He then said that he had forgotten his cocaine but he had another drug and asked if I would like to share that.  I politely turned that down.  He walked out to the patio and smoked again and I told him that I was not up for another session and he said he was meeting some friends and would I like to join them.  I deferred but he offered to call me when they got together to see if I changed my mind.  He said he would call in 30 minutes.  After two hours, it was clear he was not going to call, so it allowed me to avoid bowing out of meeting him.  

Despite the session being okay and previous sessions being very good to excellent, I will not be calling him again.  He was not obviously intoxicated but indulging in alcohol, mj, and regretting not having coke while he did have another party drug, it was obvious that PNP was his SOP.  

[DunwoodyGuy]

He "forgot his cocaine"? That sounds unlikely. Did he say what the "other drug" was?

[DMonDude]

59 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

Good. Had a guy ask me if I wanted him to bring poppers. I said no and quickly ghosted him.

Ghosting him just for asking about poppers (no where near as serious as actual hard drugs) seems a bit egregious. You could have just said "no thanks and please don't bring them around me even if just for yourself either" if you were otherwise going to still meet him. Ghost if he had said "nope i'm bringing the poppers anyway!" (which no normal person would have done).

Edited 13 hours ago by DMonDude