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Ditto for me!!

Okay. Here we have a young man who only communicates via RM Messenger. That's fine. I reached out on 9/8 inviting him to take a look at my profile. The first thing one obtains from him is an automated canned response asking the prospective client to supply a date to meet and things can be taken from there. Fair enough. I responded and suggested Thursday, 9/17 since I would be in Houston from 9/16 - 9/18. Three-and-a-half days later (3-1/2 days!!), on 9/11, he replies indicating that he in fact has availability on 9/17 and suggests that I throw out a time. Again, fair enough. I threw out 3 p.m. (but indicated later was also fine) and inquired what his rate for a one-hour session is. Two days later, 9/13, he asks (apparently unable to refer back to the fact that I would be in Houston from 9/16 - 9/18), "Are you in town and interested in meeting?" I reminded him I would be in town from 9/16 - 9/18 and was definitely interested in meeting and AGAIN asked his rate for a one-hour session. On another post pertaining to Sam Rockdale, @robberbaron4u made the analogy of providers being like cars on a car lot for purchase. I indicated that the only problem with that analogy is that, when purchasing a car, the salesmen usually acknowledge your presence and don't just ignore you, and I pointed out the fact that ShaneM had done just that (ignored me despite visiting my own RM Profile twice in six hours). Using the "car salesman" analogy, this "salesman" (i.e. Trevor_Pleasure a/k/a Trevor_Discreet a/k/a Trevor_D) demonstrated an inability to even keep simple facts together about when I would be in Houston and, for those curious, after asking for his rate twice (very politely), he simply proceeded to ghost me to this very day! So, in some respects, this vehicle lot robberbaron4u references seems to need more professional salesmen for sure. There is a third incident of this in Houston that has transpired with me within the last week, but I'm too tired tonight to address that one (too much college football, including LSU's just-completed loss to Ole Miss). I'll post on that one tomorrow. It will be much shorter and like the ShaneM post, but I felt this one warranted more coverage since any good car salesman will at least quote a price!

The only problem I see with your analogy is that the “car salesmen” in this “saturated” market all too often just ignore a customer looking at a particular model and making very serious inquiry. I don’t think it is too much to ask the salesman to acknowledge the customer’s presence on the lot and state, “sir, I don’t think that particular vehicle is for you,” but apparently it is.

Well, I'm glad "guest" had such an enjoyable time because, like @ericwinters above, he didn't respond at all to me despite RM notification that he viewed my profile twice within a six-hour period. That transpired 11 days ago, but he never responded at all.

When Sam was in Austin, I never reached out to him because I made no secret that there was another provider in Austin whom I’ve described as the “absolute best” I’d ever met in 22 years of hiring. I made 15 trips by bus to either Houston or Austin (8 hours one way for me). That provider retired within the last six weeks, so, with Sam moving to New York, it looks to me like the Austin market has lost a couple of true professionals in the recent past, and I wish both of them all the success in the world even with me losing access to the one who was my all-time favorite!

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/166186-any-411-on-sam-rockdale-new-york/

Bumping again.

I think the far more likely explanation (at least based on my conversations with providers who have let their profiles expire) is that the majority pay month-to-month (RM offers a discount for those willing to take the ad out for six months) and, if the prior month was a bust or near bust and they are hearing that hiring is slow from others, they just let it expire and decide later if they perceive hiring to be “picking up” to then reactivate the ad.

Reading this thread makes me glad I’ve always been a single-hour client. I guess it helps that the three activities I enjoy (and the ONLY three) often cause an hour to seem like more than enough time. Anyway, January of 2025 was the only time that I felt a provider showed up (at my home) really in no condition for an encounter. What I did was to not say the first word about his condition, have a very half-hearted session, and then just talk with him briefly and, in a very subtle way, convey that I hoped the best for him all while knowing that I would never see him again. That was about our eighth session (but the first where I hosted). He had the convenience of being able to just stop by my residence on his way for a later appointment the same day at a location about 60 miles west of me. He indicated that client, though he was meeting him for the first time, intended to be a regular. I have been told that client also opted to never hire him again so, in that condition, the provider lost one actual regular (me) and one prospective regular.

And it has been that way for years! So, ironically, I do the exact opposite of what @Colton suggests and take a six-hour train ride to Birmingham to meet with a provider in Birmingham (who is actually based in Huntsville) whom @PhileasFogg has already linked on this thread.

Clarity definitely needed. In 22 years of hiring, I have ALWAYS paid moments after we first meet (I just want that aspect out of the way), but I have never remitted even a dime prior to meeting in person.

The memory is made easier by the fact that NO is so devoid of providers similar to him. In reading that old thread, that came across loud and clear in several of my posts to the thread. As bad as it was four years ago, it’s even worse today (a fact to which I think you’ll quickly attest to 😃). That provides the rationale for why I made 15 trips to Houston/Austin to meet with, for me personally, the most fantastic provider I’ve ever met in 22 years of hiring. Of course, all good (great in this case) things come to an end, and it did early last month when that provider let me know (in person and in a very professional and courteous manner) that he was (and has) retired from this arena after being in it for a year and a half. I’m just glad I squeezed 15 meetings with him over the last year leading up to his retirement!

For some reason, the link in the old post of 2022 appears to not pull up the old ad. Let’s see if this works: https://rent.men/ChaseGavin

This new ad is a reincarnation of a New Orleans ad which appeared briefly (along with a separate ad of his friend — AlexanderInWonderland — which was deleted). That was back in December of 2022 and appeared to be little more than two young men just giving this a go while visiting in New Orleans for the time being. During his cameo appearance on RM in late 2022 (as Chase Gavin), he generated quite the conversation on this forum to include good natured speculation that he was himself contributing, quite defensively at times I might add, as a guest. It’s truly kind of amusing to take a stroll back in time (notice the identical photo lying on the bed, so that photo is at least four years old now) 😃: https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/139062-quick-flake-alert-on-chasegavin-of-new-orleans/ Hope this may help at least some and the photos today still look very hot to me but, for reasons (namely past experience) outlined at the above link, I won’t be initiating a correspondence 😃.

He is now “in” Mobile. When you run his contact phone number on Mr. Number, it shows there is a report. If you click on that report, it says, “Scam. Be careful. Do not send deposit.”