DMonDude

https://rent.men/Arab_fire New RM profile, but i don't recognize the guy. I found an Instagram profile through reverse image search that goes to a model/fitness influencer with 188k followers, but the profile doesn't seem tied to adult content at all. Seems like the type of guy someone here would recognize if he has other RM aliases or has done adult content.

A client asking a provider, or a provider offering to a client, to bring another provider for group play is totally normal and happens often. It's not ridiculous or crazy at all. The provider in the review you quoted also just did it very very incorrectly. They basically pressured the client into it and then lied to them about the pricing, creating an awkward situation for the client. Bringing in other providers to a session shouldn't happen unless the client specifically asks the provider for a group session. Or if the provider offers it, the client needs to say yes for it to proceed. You then would choose the second provider yourself or let the provider show you options that you say yes or no to. And the other provider always would be paid still. Providers don't do this work for free obviously. Every step of this was done incorrectly by the provider in the review you quoted. In line with what Jamie21 said. Me personally, any time i have had a provider bring another provider, it's always discussed ahead of time before the session. The main provider i hire either asks me if i have anyone i want to bring or they show me ahead of time who they want/recommend to bring and i say yes or no. If i'm the one with a second provider i want to bring, i reach out to set it up. If i say i want my provider to bring/recommend someone, they show me their pick and if i say yes, they reach out to them and set it up for me. They make the offer to the other provider and they figure out pricing amongst themselves and then i say yes or no. So far in my experience, anytime my regular provider brings another provider, the second provider always takes the same rate that i pay my regular. If the other provider needed more or whatever the case may be, then my regular would come back to me and let me know about that and i would have to agree or disagree. Communication and consent is always the key and that's what was lacking between client/provider in the review you quoted. And my regular provider i was doing this with wouldn't just bring any one, he usually would only bring either guys he knew personally (he has a lot of friends who also are providers and we've basically run through his whole friend group together 🤣) or other guys who are very well reviewed or he's worked with for other clients who are into group sessions before. Or he also trusts my pick if i want to bring one of my other regulars (but i let him know he can veto if it's someone he has beef with or something like that). Have never had any issues doing it 🤷‍♂️ Yeah i don't think that's what OP is saying either. OP saw the review and I think it's just maybe the first time they've heard that people are doing threesomes/group sessions in general and are simply citing the review as the source of inspiration for the question about "is this something people are doing and why?".

It's almost as if people like different things and your idea of a dream profile is probably wildly different to OPs.

Definitely has been my experience so far after hiring for a little over a year. I've never really thought much of it though. I'm just trying to quickly set something up same as them, i don't need fake flowery intro messages personally. But i know many others enjoy that part. Well reviewed popular guys are getting dozens of messages a day and, if they're properly booked and busy, don't have time write a more drawn out thoughtful message. If they did, I'd personally assume it was a copy/paste auto response or an AI generated message anyway, which would be more off putting to me than a short message they typed. I usually get more cordial or casual messaging from them once I've booked and especially after I've hired and come back or become a regular.

I have 3 close friends who know i have hired once, and a 4th close friend who knows i hire regularly. The latter close friend is one of the few other LGBTQ+ male friends i have. He's in a very healthy open relationship, and is very sex positive in that he goes to circuit parties with fun back rooms and orgy events and otherwise hooks up fairly regularly. And he also just became friends with a provider in his city by chance (this friend does not hire though, he's hot and active in the scene enough where he doesn't want or need to). He and i have a lot of fun sharing our sexcapade stories with each other totally judgement free. No one else i know knows about me doing this though. I'd only ever tell people like my main friend who knows, if i knew more people who'd be cool with it like he is. The only other person i'd tell is a future romantic partner who ideally also would be into the hobby (or at least would be ok with me still engaging in it on my own).

They can but it seems RM requires evidence for them to do that according to SecretProvider. Anecdotally, I see plenty of providers with 1, 2, 3, or 4 star reviews that have been there for months or even years. So they either are choosing to not ask to have those taken down or it's something that's not easy to do at will just because they feel like it. I'm sure there's been notable examples of review removals happening, but i don't think it's as widespread thing as members here think it is. At least specific to warranted negative reviews being removed without evidence. Kind of related to this but going off what @SecretProvider said earlier about how one 4 star review can majorly impact a provider for all future booking clients and what not. Are RM reviews even really that important (specifically outside of CoM, where the the client is much more selective for quality)? Genuinely asking, because I've seen many provider profiles with shit reviews or no reviews who i know get clients regardless. One of my regulars i'd been seeing for a year has no reviews but has multiple clients both new and regular. Another one i know personally only has two 1 star reviews on his page with both calling out the same issue (both very validly and i can corroborate myself), but I've seen his DMs and he still gets an obscene amount of messages and texts daily with people interested to book regardless of the bad reviews and he stays plenty busy with them. Anecdotal obviously, but it really seems to me that reviews aren't worth much (either positive or negative) unless you come to CoM where the bar for what's good is a lot higher. So i just find it hard to believe one non-5 star review pulling a providers average down to 4.8 is really doing any damage to their ability to book. Just seems the bulk of the average client browsing RM doesn't care much about the reviews if they are interested enough in the provider. Maybe it's more an issue on RentMasseur than it is RentMen though?

Stuff like that can go either way. Absolutely could be a simple scam like others have said, or also could just be a guy who's not even a provider in the professional sense. Just some rando trying to make quick cash to pay his rent cause it's so much more popularized now to casually monetize your sex life. You very well might get some cheap action out of this guy but that has it's own bag of things to watch out for and that could go wrong. You might be opening yourself up to pestering "can you spot me $xx?" texts, funding someone's drug habit, opening yourself up to targeting if they get in a desperate enough financial or other situation, or otherwise getting dragged into their troubles. Speaking from experience.

Probably because they booked with another client first. Providers don't always open their DMs in chronological order. OP may have messaged the provider first thing in the morning but if the provider gets online at 1pm and books whoever messaged most recently then that's just how it is sometimes. Providers get lots of messages and sometimes your message gets buried, they can't always respond to everyone and there's no first come first serve queue 🤷‍♂️

Same day inquiries only just means he's only interested in clients who want to see him that day, not that he will respond to all inquiries within the same day.

I've definitely considered costume requests, but never pulled the trigger on asking yet. Things like changing facial/body hair or covering tattoos or anything like that are things i generally wouldn't consider asking a provider to do. I just don't have enough interest or specific desires for that and because since it's something that would also affect other clients decision making in hiring them, i would think it's something they'd likely not agree to without charging a ton extra for it unless it's a change they were already going to do anyway. Body hair in particular, clients can be super particular about and the provider can't switch styles/regrow the hair fast enough to appease everyone. So it just seems easier for the client to hire another provider with their preferred look to me (but also is easy for me to say in a big city with a ton of providers).

Any provider can have erectile function/performance issues in a given session. This can happen to anyone. This is not a "oh he's actually just a bottom" issue. Kind of a silly thing to do, specifically with OFs/Twitters because, just like with RM ads. In porn, guys often are doing what sells best, not what they personally do the most often. Someone who bottoms often in OF/Twitter content because they "look" like they should be a bottom and the audience expects them to because of it, may actually prefer topping in real life. It's not because they can't do it. Because like I'm saying, it's just an action anyone can choose to do or not do as they please. It's not innate to anyone's personality. Treating it as such just limits your self and your own perceptions of everyone else. I've personally not experienced what you have, I've known plenty of people who top the vast majority of the time but can still bottom well the few times they do it, they're just picky about who they do the latter with. And vice versa. So i see "once a bottom always a bottom" type mentality as very nonsensical and based in silly stereotyping that isn't based in anything real. Thus it's something you can free yourself of if deconstruct it. I'd be very curious to see if you still felt like guys aren't bringing the top energy if you had hired them without having seen their OF/Twitter or Grindr/Sniffies/Scruff as i personally think your ideas about people being intrinsically bottoms or tops taints your view of them once you see it regardless of how they actually are performing. Or if you did still feel like they didn't top well if you'd then just leave thinking "he's just not a good top" or "we just didn't have chemistry" which is the more realistic take. But if this is what works for you, go for it i guess.

Sure. But again, bottom/top isn't "who you are" and doing one more often doesn't mean you're incapable of doing the other, definitely not so across the board. Some bad experience with some other provider doesn't prove anything about this current provider.

You might be able to get past this by re-framing how you see bottoming and topping. Bottoming and topping are actions/activities, not personality traits or who someone is deep in their core. The community as a whole has a bit of an issue with this. The guy you're talking about may be perfectly capable of making it feel like he's totally into topping you and could top you very well. If he's well reviewed and exclusively advertises and is hired to top, surely he's doing something right there. If you just have to "feel" like they're into it, him bottoming in his personal life doesn't actually rule out that he could do that for you if you haven't given him the chance to show you yet. And if your requirement is them actually being into everything they're doing, then hiring in general kinda can't work for you because if providers were actually into us we wouldn't have to hire them in the first place.

He has a post here under his old profile name AlphaTor

Definitely has always been a mix of the two since the start for me. One of my regulars likes group play, so we try new guys together a lot. Two birds one stone. But at my peak hiring era; i had local regulars i'd see a lot, traveling regulars i would see every time they were in town, and then also would try new guys.