Mark_fl

I think it's better to under-promise and over-deliver. If someone looks sketchy, it's easier to say "I said safe only" than to say "I know I said anything goes, but I'm not comfortable with that."

There are just risks you have to take and ones you don't. You can't hire for sex and not accept the risks of sex. That doesn't mean you're going to give him your ATM pin code and leave your wallet on the end table when you take a shower.

Bump. In Orlando now

It seems most people prefer a table massage, so once again I'm in the minority For me, the bed massage is more intimate. Also easier to move to other things if that's your plan. I have a regular 'straight' massage for the standard stuff, and she's great. And I've found some providers are just as good, and will do more body contact in a bed. I also find it awkward to move from table to bed. Am I alone here?

Yep. Maybe it's a language issue, but if you can't take the time to read and answer direct questions, I know immediately that it will not be a relaxing experience with good communication.

I'm just glad I only hire for time and companionship.

Good point. I think it would go over better and might work out better for both of you if they did this. "Hey, I'm a little short this month. Are you interested in a session? I'll make it worth your while. " I think that would be a very attractive offer for most of us.

If a guy goes beyond what I've already paid for, I agree. Assuming his rates were at or below market to begin with. If a guy is on the high end, that would be the level of service I expect.

Not to hijack the thread, but this is a societal issue. Showing off and living for today without thoughts of tomorrow is trending. I suspect a large part of this is because there is no security even if you live within your means any more. There are no more pensions unless you work for the government. There is no job security. Layoffs and cuts are everywhere. It's a tough sell to tell people save, save, save, when doing so gives you cushion to pay the bank a few more months of your mortgage before your savings are gone anyway, once you get laid off. It's still wise, but I can see the other side of it.

I think asking for a loan is largely taking advantage of the illusion of intimacy created by the nature of the work. If you are truly friends, and see him outside of work, fine. Treat your relationship as such and loan what you would any other friend you are close to. But the truth is, what would you say if your barber asked for the loan? Of course you wouldn't give him money. Any other service provider? Mechanic? Dentist? Sounds silly to even think of it, doesn't it? It is what it is. A guy taking advantage because he thinks you have money, and because you have a physical relationship, you are closer than you really are.

It sounds Ike he likes you, but is not interested in a sexual relationship with you. Sure, if you're willing to pay, he'll continue his services. Personally, I'd not want to continue this relationship. I have no problem paying for an attractive guy to make believe he's into me for an hour or so, but if we were to have a real friendship, I'd find it unappealing for him to want to charge me for intimacy. The lines here are so blurred, I'd be inclined to either cut it off completely, or keep the friendship platonic AND FREE and see how long this guy remains interested in spending time with you. Good luck.

Re bump

Not to revive this particular experience from 2 years ago, but isnt a bad review about a provider reviewed on this site EXACTLY what the point of reviews here are? Why would the fact that he was reviewed her make you less likely to share your experience.

And unless they are great at saving, the more they declare the higher social security will be. And it will always be there, since politicians don't have the nerve to cut it.

I agree that it is difficult, especially if your attraction is limited to a specific type. Finding a guy you're into, who is into what you want, and at a reasonable rate is difficult. At to that those who don't communicate well or have issues that have them disappearing after you think you have something set up, and yes, it can be tiring. Even worse if your time is limited and have to fit meetings into a window. But, as others have said, I find almost everyone I interact with in business, or who I've interviewed (and sometimes mistakenly hired) is startlingly incompetent, so I shouldn't be surprised. So if I find someone I like, I'd like to keep it fun, mutually beneficial and establish a bit of a relationship.

If by niche group, you mean regulars that call out good and bad behavior, and share with as many people as possible, I agree. Which is why the good ones stay, and the others go.

I'm sure there is no playbook or standard, but what does everyone think is appropriate before kissing or contact on a first visit? Do you let the provider start after a few minutes? How long do you wait if he doesn't? I know I'm more comfortable chatting for a few, but does that make him uncomfortable as a rule? Or would he prefer just to get to it?

I wish him luck! I don't think individual red flags or preferences should be taken personally. Both providers and clients have all had real experiences and their perspectives are likely well-founded for them. What I have seen, is that good providers get unanimously raved about here, and hopefully it helps them. For me, https://rent.men/Froyfabricio And https://rent.men/zaynebright Are top notch. There are a couple of ones who post here that I otherwise would have passed on, but their intelligence and humanity will cause me to reach out if they're ever in Orlando. I think posters who can communicate well and are respectful of clients have much more to gain than to lose by being here.

Being in Orlando, I must point out that it's "Magic Mirror" not "Mirror mirror"

I think 'filtered' is a more apt phrase than 'run off.' There are several reputable providers who introduced themselves, post often, and provide their links. They have repeat customers and give great input, so they have no reason to be anonymous. Many of us are eager to see them when they come to our cities. The ones that chose to leave or remain anonymous do so for a reason. That reason is that if we knew who they are and how they really feel about us, it would be bad for business.

Well now you've ruined the ending for everyone.

I didn't think we were allowed to talk about that.

You do have to love a one-stop shop. I wonder if he serves breakfast.

As others have said, you blurred the lines yourself. A gift card for his child was nice, but a little odd. When the mother asked who got it for him, he may have just said a regular client. As for the registry, how did you get the list? Did you ask for the link? Very odd that he would just send it to you, asking for a gift. Again, the thank you card is customary. Doesn't mean she knows who you are, or that you just aren't a regular client who turned into a friend. Does she even know he's bi and does extras for some money? I have more questions than answers here.

Of course they overlap. I've had good, legitimate massages from a guy for almost an hour with a HE after. You can't tell me that was simply an escort. He was licensed, etc. If you want to argue that in the last 10 minutes he was an escort, fine, but there was certainly an overlap.