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I would also think that mentioning HIV status strongly implies that it might matter.

Interesting hypothetical: If he paid the provider, and then stole the money while he was in the shower, is that theft or SA? Would there be a legal difference in what he was charged with. (It's my thread, so I'm allowed to hijack it 😉)

Shouldn't even need chatgpt. Common sense should be enough to deem it sexual assault. Just like surreptitiously removing a condom. Consent is contingent on several things. If you knowingly have an STD and lie about it can also be SA, for example. This is no different than consent based on payment. It may not be a legal agreement, but without the payment, there is no consent.

I think deposits for visits that require hotels and significant travel expense aren't unreasonable. But for an incall or local, it seems a bit much. Clients are supposed to trust providers not to flake after they get a deposit, but clients arent to be trusted to show up and pay. Itnjust seems like two sets of rules. Im trusting the provider to show discretion, keep privacy, be like his photos, and deliver what was promised. That feels like a lot more I'm being asked to beleive on faith than thr provider beliving I'll show up after I've reached out, not asked for sexting or photos and agreed to a zoom or phone call. So while I understand the need for a deposit in certain circumstances, in my case it's a big red flag. I've had a provider fly on his own dime for a couple of days, and didn't ask for a dime, even as he was leaving. When I handed him an envelope with his pay, he said "are you sure?" so I think he was happy.

If showing preferences on a thread that was specifically about an online ad about what was a turnoff makes me a prude, fine. I'll own it. I'll also make a notation. If I ever want my preferences judged by an internet stranger, you'll be my first call.

Because that wasn't the topic of the post? But if being judgemental about other people's turn ons and offs makes you happy, have at it.

Well, if the provider wants to meet up to take a deposit, that might work, but Im cash-only, and I don't see that changing.

So you're saying that even polite clients who don't sext or ask for nudes are somehow wasting your time? How exactly? Not doubting you, but I'm surprised experienced providers can't smell this a mile away. Are these the guys booking appointments and not showing up/being there? What's in it for them? Just doesn't make sense to me.

I'm relatively new in terms of posting and reading (although I posted once over a year ago) and have been reading old posts. There seems to be a lot of discussion about deposits, and clients trying to get something for nothing via sexting and nudes. I'm not interested in sexting, and I've never thought I needed more pictures than were provided in the ad, unless there was no face pic. I would also never send a deposit. I'm cash only, period. But I can see why a provider would want one if they were providing sexting services. But can't provider NOT sext before meeting, or ask for a deposit in just those cases? I'd think you can tell a polite client from one of these users? It seems like a blanket policy is throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

Must be me, but neither OF or live strippers appeal to me at all. I just find it cringe. If the nudity isn't in person and just for me...not interested.

If we get to go back a bit, Ill go with Brockstar

To hell with discipline. If you had the ability to make an extra payment every month, get a 15 year mortgage instead.

Im just curious for providers how long you've been providers, and clients, how long and how often you've hired? Hopefully this is confidental enough that people don't mind sharing. It might give some perspective on posts here. Personally, I'm 60 and had no male interaction since fooling around with a friend at age 13. In the last year I've started to explore with some guys. I had 2 1-hour hires and realized that wasn't going to work for me, so I arranged a 2 day visit with someone on a work trip, which worked out perfectly. Not sure if and when I'll hire again, as quick interactions aren't enough for me to have a comfort level.

Yeah, this post is turning into a PSA for providers. 😀

Not sure if it qualifies as a fetish, but I love my shoulders and upper back bitten medium-hard. Maybe because the hair is some kind of buffer, but that feels so good to me.

Be careful. You may even get a parting gift!

Aren't we supposed to be getting 2 for 1 today? 😉

I saw the topic about clients who like to give the provider their own happy ending. Do providers generally appreciate this or think of it as an obligation? Or does it depend on their obligations for the rest of the day? Or how hot the client is? Or how skilled they are? Probably as many answers as providers, but curious as to if the consensus thinks of this as a bonus or a hindrance.

To add to an old topic. Things that generally make me pass on an ad: Excessive piercings and tattoos Obscene gestures A lot of hair facial or otherwise. Gaping asshole photos And while these aren't an automatic pass, I don't get excited about jockstraps or bikini briefs/thongs. The latter group not very manly to me. A lot of pictures with tongues sticking out. I think I just prefer a more subtle sexuality vs. IN YOUR FACE.

I think part of what providers do is flirt. It makes the client feel good and want to come back. If they do it well it feels genuine. If they do it poorly, it feels like sucking up. Now if they get to know you better, its easier to not only find something they like about you, but to read what kind of compliments you would appreciate. It doesn't mean the compliment isn't real, but as long as there is something in it for the provider, take it with a grain of salt.

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I wouldn't filter for that, as I don't care about dick size. Its just that I fear having an average dick is preventing a lot of normal, All-American guys from being providers.

I know most providers exaggerate their endowments, but I think for me, and maybe a lot of others, there is a market for average guys in good shape. I don't even care if a dick pic is posted, nor would I ask for one. I just want to see a flat stomach, smooth skin (minimal hair) and a boy-next-door, clean-shaven face. These seem few and far between from what I've seen. Most guys showing off their big dicks and hairy assholes. I know you give the people what they want, but I wish more average guys would put themselves out there.

Maybe this should be the approach if they just say ask? You're asking if they'll accept a quote

I'm a bit stocky, and 60, but my concern is body hair. Arms, legs, back, everything. If that is a turnoff to a provider, I want him to know before agreeing to see me. So I put that, and what I'm looking for in my profile and ask them to read it and see if I'd be a good client for them. If I don't hear back, no big deal. Could be they don't travel that far, don't like what I want, or don't want to deal with the hair. I'm not butt-hurt, and I've not met anyone that made me feel unwanted.