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Another thumbs-up for @FrancisCA. I saw him a couple of times as an escort a few years ago in SF (where I think he was based at the time). He is verse, talented and a very sweet guy. If I ever get to LA, I will try to see him again.

This is my view too. I've been haggled with in my professional life, and I know how much that experience diminishes my attitude toward that client. So on the other side, if a provider quotes me a number, it's a yes/no decision for me. Haggling makes the interaction all about the money, which of course it is but I'd rather not have that in the front of my mind, and I don't want to risk annoying the provider. When I meet a non-pro provider (on seeking, for example), I ask them for a number that is meaningful to them because i want them to be happy with the arrangement, but I also tell them that if it's acceptable, I'll agree to it, but if it's not, we're done. That keeps them from asking for a ridiculous number and negotiating down, which would just piss me off anyway, but it also gives them a number that they acknowledge is satisfactory.

I like his look and texted with him last fall. That was before the "finsub" or the "Mr. Noods" references in his profile. He wouldn't give a clear picture of how much he limited his physical activity (no fucking is clear, but oral? kissing?), so I assume it was a case by case thing or just a hard no that he knew would turn off too many clients. He also asked for 400 an hour. Too much money for too little promise, so I passed.

This is a common story, and not only in the gay world. Through my work, I've known several older men who married much younger women who started as sugar babies and then graduated to wives. A BMW is one thing, but hopefully the sugar daddy in your story still has or shares title to the house and put a good pre-nup in place before the marriage.

Well, I live in NYC too, but WHEN I TRAVEL, my hires are usually outcalls to my hotel, and when I'm asked for an Uber, I might agree to reimburse them for one (and in theory for one back) depending on the fee I'm being charged. I won't ever use my account to order an Uber for them, though.

Many are my type looks-wise, but I've stopped hiring recent immigrants because of the language barrier. I speak no Spanish, and It's just not the same experience if there's no verbal communication, even when the tactile communication is great. I do admit, though, that I LOVE hearing them say "oh, papi".

Another thumbs-up for dayuse.com. You can get a room for four hours in a three-star hotel for less than $100; a four-star will cost you a little more. Lots of options on location, and the selection is much, much better than the filthy by-the-hour places from the old days. And, in terms of hosting, a lot depends on the age of the provider. The older ones are generally more established and have a place of their own. The young ones tend to share shabby (good word, public_assistance) walk-up apartments in dodgy neighborhoods, and they all seem to live on the top floor of those walk-ups. As I get older, climbing the stairs is taking as much out of me as the session.

Ha, PD. My experiences were also fulfilling. It's just that nothing we exchanged was verbal.

I saw SebasFit twice about three years ago and enjoyed it very much. His English was non-existent (as was/is my Spanish), which made communications difficult, but we managed to put it together. He was engaged and enthusiastic in our sessions. I lost track of him during COVID. I also saw Vfit_afp once around the same time (I think he called himself Juanse then) and connected them because they hosted in the same apartment. His English was slightly better than SebasFit's. No criticism of Vfit_afp intended, but I had a less enjoyable time with him and didn't repeat. DM me if you'd like more details on either of them.

I interpreted the caption on this thread differently. Let me say that I appreciate everything that's been said and I agree that I've rarely had an experience with a provider who threw me any shade or who disdained me for not being up to his caliber. However, not long after I started hiring, I saw a provider who was so beautiful (think Michelangelo's David, but hung, come to life) and so friendly and open and welcoming that the whole time I was with him a voice in the back of my head (it sounded annoyingly like Woody Allen) kept telling me how ridiculous it was that an old schlub like me was spending time with this god. I'd never had that experience before and haven't had it since even though I've seen many handsome providers, but I certainly felt that that one guy was "out of my league".

It's surely all those things affecting your business in NYC this month. The locals (well, the ones with money) are coming back from their summer beach/country life and readjusting to city life (work ramping up, getting kids back to school, etc.) and dealing with the Jewish holidays. Remember Jews make up 1 in 5 New Yorkers -- and probably 50% of the professional class -- which means we Gentiles are busy because half of our colleagues are missing. Also, business travel, conferences and trade shows in NYC are scheduled away from those holidays and the NYC shitshow that is the UN General Assembly. The economy is certainly having an impact, but October should be a better measure of your business. Good luck.

Welcome. I sent you a direct message with some details I didn't think appropriate for public posting. Good luck!

Thanks, SotB. I've come to your way of thinking. It would be great if it happens organically (I see an unsuccessful OF marketing effort by a guy in my area and reach out to him), but it's not worth the effort to chase it.

Thanks. I'd be subtle in any event, but not knowing whether the DMs are even getting through makes sending them out a low-yield effort. I agree that the more successful content creators just want to make porn and not escort. However, there are content creators out there who start an OF account but don't get the subscribers they hoped for (I see them in my X feed), and I'd think they might be interested in other revenue opportunities. Of course, I might just barking up the wrong tree and should stick with hiring off of RM and the other escort sites. There are lots of great escorts on those sites, even if few of them fit my particular tastes.

Thank you. Yes, it makes sense that most content creators would disable DMs, so only someone who chooses to receive DMs from everyone would receive mine. I can't find any guidance on the internet as to whether there's a way to tell who's made that choice, so I'm guessing there isn't. But I'd love that guess to be corrected.