Yet another warning about deposits

[josh282282]

Hi JB_Studio38/ Mocha/Jarrod_uncut (and all the other names you have had on this platform in the past- there have been many)

8 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

I just hope everyone encouraging no deposits, is also willing to be on call with money to give in the event a provider travels to a city with no deposits…and everyone flakes out on their booking. It can and does happen. 

No. I, and my fellow client colleagues,  are not willing to be "on call" with money for you when escorting is not working out financially for you. Although I do NOT wish you or any other escort financial harm, we are not responsible for your solvency.  But to you and all escorts in the world: I'm hopeful you prosper.  You provide a wonderful service to the community.  

 

8 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

And with the price of things now, anticipating going up even more: I don’t think a sweeping advice about not providing deposits is exactly conducive to encouraging providers to shoulder the risks and costs of travel and accommodations.

Ah, you are not satisfied with my advice? Allow me to elaborate.  You and I are both business men. Similar fields, albeit with a few differences. I'm a physician.  You are an escort.   We are both seek to ...heal our clients (or patients). As a physician I have high overhead costs in maintaining my office: support staff salaries, my office rent, my exorbitant malpractice premiums, to name a few, costs which rise yearly which is alarming & frustrating.  And just like you, before I take home one dollar, ALL my overhead MUST be paid first. Heck, I was hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical school debt before I even got paid to see my first patient! Yes, I genuinely understand your predicament.  I live it daily.  But when a business informs the client this is my fee, BUT then says, "oh, I also need a deposit", um, yah, no. Or the escort says, "Oh, I need you to pay my Uber". Also a big Nope. See, all of my overhead AND my own salary AND (this is the critical point I fear you dont understand) the cost of the lost revenue is wrapped up in the fee I charge for that office visit.  You think patients call, make an appointment to see me and don't show up? It happens DAILY. Every physician has no-shows. You think patients get a bill (after I provide them medical services) from me and always send a payment? Nope. I get patients who stiff me ALL.THE.TIME.  But that loss is factored IN to my fees.  That's Business.  I don't charge multiple fees.   I have protocols that attempt to minimize loss. For example:  two no-shows and my staff informs the patient they are discharged from the practice.  You think you are the only businessman who takes risks and experiences financial loss?  Think again.   I don't come to this platform and bitch & whine & come across as a lunatic because my patients stiff me.    Rather, I focus on my wonderful patients who stay, pay, and make it all worth while.

To all escorts: keep providing your excellent services. Stay professional.  Continue to hone your craft. Keep detailed reports of what's not working. For what's not working focus on strategies to minimize loss and maximize profit. You are an escort to make MONEY - there is nothing wrong with that! So am I.  But demanding fees (deposits or Ubers) will ultimately turn away good clients & make you seem unprofessional.   Good clients (like me) stay away from escorts like that. Including staying away from JB_Studio38/ Mocha/Jarrod_uncut. Asking for a fee makes you look sketchy.  Its a bad look. 

Love to all,

Josh

 

 

Edited Friday at 03:19 PM by josh282282
Grammer

[Nue2thegame]

I won’t do deposits. Never have. But, on a few occasions I have “loaned” relatively small amounts to providers that I’ve already seen before who have had the sort of life crises described above. Before I do, I always ask myself how I’ll feel if I never see it again. So far, no one has made an attempt to repay but I have subsequently been the beneficiary of more time, special treatment, access at unusual times and other perks that leave me feeling that it was worthwhile. I try to look at the big picture and there are many ways to build a relationship. Deposits, for me curtail that opportunity. 

Edited Friday at 07:55 PM by Nue2thegame

[+ PhileasFogg]

24 minutes ago, Nue2thegame said:

I won’t do deposits. Never have. But, on a few occasions I have “loaned” relatively small amounts to providers that I’ve already seen before who have had the sort of life crises described above. Before I do, I always ask myself how I’ll feel if I never see it again. So far, no one has made an attempt to repay but I have subsequently been the beneficiary of more time, special treatment, access at unusual times and other perks that leave me feeling that it was worthwhile. I try to look at the big picture and there are many ways to build a relationship. Deposits, for me curtail that opportunity. 

I agree with that approach.   But sometimes, the circumstances become so arcane with broken trust that "more time, special treatment, and access" are meaningless.   I'm not sharing space with someone I can't trust.

 

[+ purplekow]

My feeling about deposits.  If the escort asks, I either say yes or no.  I say yes to a small deposit to cover the cost of travel to my location if the escort has good reviews or a personal recommendation from a client.  I say no otherwise.   I have guidelines not rules and I utilize those guidelines when it comes to a deposit.   To whom am I giving it?  Is the amount reasonable considering the service?  Am I willing to write off the money without anger,  if he does not show?  How cooperative has the escort been in other arrangements?  

They can ask.  I can say yes or no.  For me, there really is no other discussion needed on this topic.

[+ Jamie21]

I’ve asked for deposits twice. In 8 years of working and many many clients (4 figures). In my early years I had a few out calls that were wild goose chases. The kind where the client is all keen etc until you reach their place and then they ‘disappear’. Now I’m wiser and I can see the red flags and avoid these time wasters. 

Both occasions I asked for a deposit were 4 hands sessions where the other provider was travelling and I wasn’t confident the client was legitimate (but I was sufficiently confident to accept the booking). I can accept the time wasted if my judgement was wrong but I’d feel really bad to get the other provider into a flaky client situation, hence I asked for the deposit. Both times the client paid the deposit no trouble, and turned up, so all was good.

Like @josh282282says, I just factor the cost of the occasional flake into my pricing and I do as much as possible to mitigate against the time wasters. It’s just sensible good practice to do this. It’s easier to adjust yourself to the world than it is to rail against the world because it won’t behave as you want it to. 

 

[Wings246]

5 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

It’s easier to adjust yourself to the world than it is to rail against the world because it won’t behave as you want it to.

It wasn't until recently that I woke up to this realization -- I hope it's not too late.  It's tough to change the world; it's tough to change the systems of the world; it's tough to change people around you; it's tough to change the people around you who manipulate the systems of the world to solely benefit themselves (possibly at your expenses).  The easiest thing to change in this world: MYSELF.  Therefore, I change myself.

[Mark_fl]

5 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

Both occasions I asked for a deposit were 4 hands sessions where the other provider was travelling and I wasn’t confident the client was legitimate (but I was sufficiently confident to accept the booking).

While I've said several times that a deposit is a deal breaker for me, I must admit this is an honorable reason to require one. 

I'd never do a 4 hander, but I can see why it makes sense if you've been asked to contract someone else.

[marylander1940]

On 3/4/2026 at 10:01 AM, Austin Lewis said:

The full version of this story is quite a saga, but here's the TL;DR version.

I was planning a long evening with a provider I had seen a handful of times. We were going to see a musical--he's a really fine singer and I knew he'd like that--and then enjoy a few hours together. I had the tickets, and he was taking care of making the rest of the evening an event. When he asked for a $500 deposit to help with that, I overcame my qualms and sent it to him.

It will surprise absolutely no one in this forum to learn that on the very day we were supposed to get together, he texted me to say that he was stuck in a faraway city (inset tale of woe here) and wouldn't be making it. I tried to be understanding, but I was also firm in saying that I felt scammed because I had paid for an experience I wasn't going to have. He assured me that he would return the money, though not right away because his finances were a mess (insert further tale of woe here). Repeated enquiries have produced ever-receding deadlines for repayment, but of course no actual money.

No deposits.

Ever.

He lost a regular client that over time would have given him a lot of money...

He is the real loser here, not you!

In your case I would take screenshots of the conversation and send them to RM. I'm sure it's not the first time nor the last time he behaves like that.

 

[+ Jamie21]

6 hours ago, Wings246 said:

It wasn't until recently that I woke up to this realization -- I hope it's not too late.  It's tough to change the world; it's tough to change the systems of the world; it's tough to change people around you; it's tough to change the people around you who manipulate the systems of the world to solely benefit themselves (possibly at your expenses).  The easiest thing to change in this world: MYSELF.  Therefore, I change myself.

It is also very hard to change yourself though! But easier than changing the world. I still want to fix things I don’t like in the world of course, but now I catch myself before I charge into the fray and I let it flow around me. Their problem not mine. 

[ncc1701d]

I agree with one one of the poster's comment that the issue here really isn't the deposit, but the fact that this escort is no stranger to the client (repeat hires before) and took advantage of the situation/relationship, and acted unprofessionally, which in the end hurts the escort in that what would have been somewhat regular income with a stable/reliable client is now gone.

Writing now as i just went thru the same experience (not with deposit). Multiple hr/afternoon/Overnight hires all went great, then went for a weekend and let's just say the escorts hands and mind were on his phone more than they were on me...and a supposed romantic intimate getaway turned into more a "coworker" in the same room situation.  Needless to say i will not be hiring him anymore (at least not for anything longer than an hour) unless he comes clean with what happened

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

On 3/6/2026 at 6:39 AM, josh282282 said:

Hi JB_Studio38/ Mocha/Jarrod_uncut (and all the other names you have had on this platform in the past- there have been many)

 

On 3/6/2026 at 6:39 AM, josh282282 said:

Hi JB_Studio38/ Mocha/Jarrod_uncut (and all the other names you have had on this platform in the past- there have been many)

No. I, and my fellow client colleagues,  are not willing to be "on call" with money for you when escorting is not working out financially for you. Although I do NOT wish you or any other escort financial harm, we are not responsible for your solvency.  But to you and all escorts in the world: I'm hopeful you prosper.  You provide a wonderful service to the community.  

 

Ah, you are not satisfied with my advice? Allow me to elaborate.  You and I are both business men. Similar fields, albeit with a few differences. I'm a physician.  You are an escort.   We are both seek to ...heal our clients (or patients). As a physician I have high overhead costs in maintaining my office: support staff salaries, my office rent, my exorbitant malpractice premiums, to name a few, costs which rise yearly which is alarming & frustrating.  And just like you, before I take home one dollar, ALL my overhead MUST be paid first. Heck, I was hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical school debt before I even got paid to see my first patient! Yes, I genuinely understand your predicament.  I live it daily.  But when a business informs the client this is my fee, BUT then says, "oh, I also need a deposit", um, yah, no. Or the escort says, "Oh, I need you to pay my Uber". Also a big Nope. See, all of my overhead AND my own salary AND (this is the critical point I fear you dont understand) the cost of the lost revenue is wrapped up in the fee I charge for that office visit.  You think patients call, make an appointment to see me and don't show up? It happens DAILY. Every physician has no-shows. You think patients get a bill (after I provide them medical services) from me and always send a payment? Nope. I get patients who stiff me ALL.THE.TIME.  But that loss is factored IN to my fees.  That's Business.  I don't charge multiple fees.   I have protocols that attempt to minimize loss. For example:  two no-shows and my staff informs the patient they are discharged from the practice.  You think you are the only businessman who takes risks and experiences financial loss?  Think again.   I don't come to this platform and bitch & whine & come across as a lunatic because my patients stiff me.    Rather, I focus on my wonderful patients who stay, pay, and make it all worth while.

To all escorts: keep providing your excellent services. Stay professional.  Continue to hone your craft. Keep detailed reports of what's not working. For what's not working focus on strategies to minimize loss and maximize profit. You are an escort to make MONEY - there is nothing wrong with that! So am I.  But demanding fees (deposits or Ubers) will ultimately turn away good clients & make you seem unprofessional.   Good clients (like me) stay away from escorts like that. Including staying away from JB_Studio38/ Mocha/Jarrod_uncut. Asking for a fee makes you look sketchy.  Its a bad look. 

Love to all,

Josh

 One of the most brilliant and insightful posts that Bozo has seen here in a long, long, time.
Sadly, it won't sink in for the person for whom it was intended. But not for a lack of effort on your part.
Thanks for your words of wisdom.

BTC
🤡

[+ PhileasFogg]

39 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

 

 One of the most brilliant and insightful posts that Bozo has seen here in a long, long, time.
Sadly, it won't sink in for the person for whom it was intended. But not for a lack of effort on your part.
Thanks for your words of wisdom.

BTC
🤡

Correct.   There have been a number of posts overtime drawing parallels to other businesses and the response is a rationalization of why his situation is different told through the filter of how it makes him feel.    Unfortunately, business risk doesn’t have feelings.  But I give him sincere credit for making a go of it as long as he has despite his frustration. 

[JB_Studio38]

On 3/6/2026 at 5:39 AM, josh282282 said:

Hi JB_Studio38/ Mocha/Jarrod_uncut (and all the other names you have had on this platform in the past- there have been many)

No. I, and my fellow client colleagues,  are not willing to be "on call" with money for you when escorting is not working out financially for you. Although I do NOT wish you or any other escort financial harm, we are not responsible for your solvency.  But to you and all escorts in the world: I'm hopeful you prosper.  You provide a wonderful service to the community.  

 

Ah, you are not satisfied with my advice? Allow me to elaborate.  You and I are both business men. Similar fields, albeit with a few differences. I'm a physician.  You are an escort.   We are both seek to ...heal our clients (or patients). As a physician I have high overhead costs in maintaining my office: support staff salaries, my office rent, my exorbitant malpractice premiums, to name a few, costs which rise yearly which is alarming & frustrating.  And just like you, before I take home one dollar, ALL my overhead MUST be paid first. Heck, I was hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical school debt before I even got paid to see my first patient! Yes, I genuinely understand your predicament.  I live it daily.  But when a business informs the client this is my fee, BUT then says, "oh, I also need a deposit", um, yah, no. Or the escort says, "Oh, I need you to pay my Uber". Also a big Nope. See, all of my overhead AND my own salary AND (this is the critical point I fear you dont understand) the cost of the lost revenue is wrapped up in the fee I charge for that office visit.  You think patients call, make an appointment to see me and don't show up? It happens DAILY. Every physician has no-shows. You think patients get a bill (after I provide them medical services) from me and always send a payment? Nope. I get patients who stiff me ALL.THE.TIME.  But that loss is factored IN to my fees.  That's Business.  I don't charge multiple fees.   I have protocols that attempt to minimize loss. For example:  two no-shows and my staff informs the patient they are discharged from the practice.  You think you are the only businessman who takes risks and experiences financial loss?  Think again.   I don't come to this platform and bitch & whine & come across as a lunatic because my patients stiff me.    Rather, I focus on my wonderful patients who stay, pay, and make it all worth while.

To all escorts: keep providing your excellent services. Stay professional.  Continue to hone your craft. Keep detailed reports of what's not working. For what's not working focus on strategies to minimize loss and maximize profit. You are an escort to make MONEY - there is nothing wrong with that! So am I.  But demanding fees (deposits or Ubers) will ultimately turn away good clients & make you seem unprofessional.   Good clients (like me) stay away from escorts like that. Including staying away from JB_Studio38/ Mocha/Jarrod_uncut. Asking for a fee makes you look sketchy.  Its a bad look. 

Love to all,

Josh

 

 

Okay, now that my eyes have been desecrated by the long winded dribble that really has nothing to do with the escort industry: I’m going to respond back as friendly as I possibly can…

First of all: you are so lame and tired to keep bringing up old news, when I’ve been using the same name along with my own website and biz card for YEARS now. You stuck on some 2009 shit, grow up. If you’re a doctor, you got too much time on your hands to be coming on here; and arguing with a sex worker about what rules they choose to have in their business. I’ve been using the same name, since the last time I went to the Palm Springs event back in 2019: 7 YEARS AGO. Why are you still on some decade old shit? Because you don’t have a life. I don’t give a fuck if you are a doctor or not.

You being a doctor and me being an escort have no relation. The medical industry, is not the escort industry. What you’re doing is more of a “necessity based” whereas what we do is “luxury based”. There’s plenty of businesses that require their money upfront. You don’t get Amazon sent to you until you pay the product. You don’t get to purchase a car without putting a down payment. You don’t get to see a movie FIRST, and then pay after.

You coming at me with the wrong comparisons, and sounds like you’re bitter about your profession and want to project that shit on me. Get out of here with that. 
 

And for the record, even though I’m taking the time to respond to your condescending post, I did still report your post because you have no business trying to say things to make me look bad. All my reviews speak for themselves. Non of my clients have problems with deposits. You think you are more important just because your profession and education in the medical field: news flash, that don’t mean shit in the would of escorting.

Before you talk all that shit, why don’t you try being an escort for a week. A month. A year. If not, keep it moving. Stick to what you do best, don’t come and try to dictate what another independent professional should do 🎤 

 

[Mark_fl]

3 minutes ago, JB_Studio38 said:

 Non of my clients have problems with deposits. 

Not interested in the juvenile back and forth, but this comment means nothing. If you REQUIRE a deposit, doesn't that automatically mean that all of your clients are OK with them? The ones who weren't declined your services.

[JB_Studio38]

Just now, Mark_fl said:

Not interested in the juvenile back and forth, but this comment means nothing. If you REQUIRE a deposit, doesn't that automatically mean that all of your clients are OK with them? The ones who weren't declined your services.

There is no denying of services because I have it transparent across all my ads and website. So they are already aware of what I ask before even contacting me. See, that’s the difference. There’s no surprises on my end. Even when RentMen doesn’t allow rates or mention of deposit, I still have it in my website that gets sent along with every inquiry.

It does mean something, and it means I know what is best for me, regardless of what some other anon person feels about it. 

[JB_Studio38]

2 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

 

 One of the most brilliant and insightful posts that Bozo has seen here in a long, long, time.
Sadly, it won't sink in for the person for whom it was intended. But not for a lack of effort on your part.
Thanks for your words of wisdom.

BTC
🤡

Actually it’s not sinking in for you. Bozo. But since you are stuck in a perpetual willingness to disagree with everything under the sun I say, I’m just going to start responding to you with what other people are saying, that way I don’t waste my energy clowning around with you:

 

[+ PhileasFogg]

2 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

Okay, now that my eyes have been desecrated by the long winded dribble

 

 

Ditto

this was such a predictable response 

congratulations, you are now the third person I’ve blocked.  Unfortunately, I think the other two were you by a different name. 

[jeezifonly]

My 40y career included doing custom piece-work. Deposits were standard in the field. You want what I make? I have to acquire the often expensive materials unique to producing the custom object you're buying. The deposit I required for first-timers, and for all larger orders, went immediately into material goods, with the balance on delivery being compensation for my labor. 

Sex workers do not need to acquire unique materials to provide me service. (I bring my own unique ...materials when the negotiated service includes them)

I'm a client who only hires providers hosting for incalls, and I pay cash, and cash only. 

Deposit required = Move on

 

[JB_Studio38]

8 minutes ago, jeezifonly said:

My 40y career included doing custom piece-work. Deposits were standard in the field. You want what I make? I have to acquire the often expensive materials unique to producing the custom object you're buying. The deposit I required for first-timers, and for all larger orders, went immediately into material goods, with the balance on delivery being compensation for my labor. 

Sex workers do not need to acquire unique materials to provide me service. (I bring my own unique ...materials when the negotiated service includes them)

I'm a client who only hires providers hosting for incalls, and I pay cash, and cash only. 

Deposit required = Move on

 

uh huh…okay, yeah I’m listening 🥱

Meanwhile there’s still plenty of viewers out there who don’t mind sending deposits or partially arranging via apps: