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  1. I made arrangements to travel to a city 3-4 hours away for the dual purpose of a friend’s event and to incorporate some clients into my schedule. So as usual, I reach out ahead of time to previous clients to let them know I’m coming and to see if we can arrange a visit. The 4-5 people I anticipated mostly said yes BUT, there was some maybes. Which I guess meant no, because of all, only 1 person showed up. And thankfully he did because it was a longer $,$$$ visit. But what I dislike the most is someone ghosting off and not responding at all, once I arrive to town. Especially if it’s someone I met before. And about 3 of them did that. Some may say I should “bet on” only 1 or 2 to show up, which can often be the case. 1 was able to let me know he couldn’t show. The others, I texted/emailed twice and no reply. Its a big part of why there has to be an understanding, taking trips to meet clients without a deposit comes with risk. I did it, but I was able to curb some of the risk by having enough free hotel nights in case everybody fell thru, along with a secondary purpose. But it would have been a complete bust if I hadn’t had the 1 come thru. And even though the trip was only 4 hours away, it still ended up being 3 nights of hotels: the first night being the initial commute (which I sometimes have to do in order to get to town early enough to see people and not worry about delays but, that’s also extra money). 2nd night was event and booking, 3rd night was more rest and recovery. But 3 nights and only 1 client showing up, is part of the reason $250/300 isn’t as appealing as it used to. Even with free nights and friends discounts, I still spent $200 on lodging. If I had only one $250/$300 session: I would have essentially broke even with no profit. I know it’s just “how it is”, but that’s why I spend more time advertising in cities than actually staying there. Unless I have a place to stay, sponsored by a friend or client, I don’t like taking the risk. And staying with people is getting old too. That’s why I strategize with hotels, so I don’t have to rely on people for a place to stay when I visit a city. Gay folks can be the worse when it comes to needing to post “remotely” from their place. Most won’t allow to host, and small things can be a bother: I might as well just get a hotel room and at least have the potential to earn something. But that comes with the caveat of making sure there’s enough people following thru and showing up.
  2. That’s certainly not realistic. Considering many if not MAJORITY of clients are beyond 40-50 y/o, with a large majority interested in Tops: I still feel my overall progress is better than it was when I was then. My rates have evolved but it’s just overall not as many booking. But that’s I believe more due to lower visibility and many escort sites having been replaced by hookup apps that aren’t giving space to sex workers to openly advertise. That’s interesting but idk if even a percent can be a good measure. It could be higher or lower depending on the city/week/month. I know in my home residing state, 1 or 2 new clients a month is about all I can expect. More appropriately: Its the “Timewasters” that make it not as great. Most real clients are not the issue. Those are the ones met in person. It’s the others who drag out things, make me answer 100 questions, leave you hanging when anticipating an appointment, etc. I can understand someone being nervous or new or whatever, but lot of these things are available in my ad and website. I also don’t like doing that around the clock for free. I used to work on customer service phones doing sales inbound and outbound. That was hard enough getting paid for it. Imagine not always getting paid for that text exchange that goes on for an hour or more, not to mention taking time out of the day to respond. That’s why when someone said it’s crazy to expect payment just to communicate about a session, I don’t think so. My ad is free to read and jerk at pictures. But if someone wants to then have a conversation and be available to my time: Something is appropriate. Btw: timewasters come in many forms even outside of clients. Like I said earlier, the “lifestyle” of being gay is so much timewasting as it is. Some people can do that for free all day long. I had someone come to my hotel other night, first off he was already being way too cautious about everything. Then we get to fucking. But then after a couple positions he says he is short on time and needs to go. But, that he can come back tonight or in the morning. I already knew he likely wasn’t but…I can’t stand when people do that. Don’t come to room and play around and not be ready to finish the mission lol. Granted he wasn’t a client, just a college guy but still timewasting/playing games.
  3. The same way in which people like to prank on escorts: it’s a thrill for them. It’s why some of us who have been in the industry awhile do ample screening, deposits, etc. There’s a nightclub in Nashville that holds “sniffies” nights. I won’t mention the name but, it’s basically you come in with the app turned on and that’s your entry. Lots of half naked dudes walking around, ready to suck n fuck in the back lol. However, maybe because I’ve “mostly seen it all and done it all”, but I’m just not into it. I don’t like giving myself up freely to random people. It was fun at one point when I was younger but now, idk…just more discerning. Like I can get into all the fun and kinky stuff but: it has to be among people I know or a paid session. Not to mention, I kinda hate these apps for what they’ve done to the male escort industry especially in smaller cities/rural towns: they have these supposedly sex positive platforms, but don’t even lift a finger in the fight for valid sex work. Adam 4 Adam is the only non escort website that has chartered that territory, but nowadays it’s not the hit site so actual hits and clients seem to be spread out and require lots of travel to make it work. These apps haven’t done nothing like Craigslist back in the day used to do: open the door to prospective renters in an accessible way. Now you have to talk to like 50-100 people, just to get maybe 1 actual client.
  4. Dayuse is a good alternative, anything is better than not being able to host at all. However I don’t think dayuse is fool proof because I booked a room on it last month or so, and the client flaked out. I ended up having to cancel the room but I was within the time limits. But still, I don’t like having to book and cancel regardless. Next time I won’t do it again without a deposit, as I’ve been messed around in the past by booking hotels to host clients, and then they either don’t show or cancel after I’ve paid for it. What I normally do now is have most all new clients who want me to host, arrange a deposit towards the session. That’s the only way I can know for sure and have something on hand to work with. Well like I say, when you’re dealing with non-escorts, who knows. I personally only do it 2 ways: deposit in advance from client, or meet in person and then collect the arrangement prior to booking the hotel. Keep in mind, dayuse does not work nor is available in every city. In small towns, it’s almost non existent. And even medium sized cities, you’re almost better off to book a room for the night. The dayuse rate sometimes runs the same as what it would be on a 3rd party app, but of course it’s much more flexible with day use as 3rd party apps never like to give refunds for prepaid cancellations. There’s so many strategies to the hotel game, and I’ve tried most all of them: but the best one for me is loyalty/points, friends and family, and 3rd party booking apps. To me dayuse is almost counter productive because many times you’re paying for the cost of what a room elsewhere would be for the night. Once I get into a hotel, I don’t want to unpack or rush out in 4 hours. To me that’s the #1 caveat with hotels, and if I can mitigate that by getting late checkout with a familiar brand, I’d rather do that. However: escort versus client, dayuse may work better for clients and I still occasionally refer clients to that if they can’t host and neither can I. But as an escort, I’m trying to maximize my time in a hotel so that’s counterproductive.
  5. Yeah that’s still weird. In my case, I like fucking in hotels BUT it has to be a suite 🤣 like, livingroom/bedroom maybe even jacuzzi. Or at least a close substitute. I’m very conscious about leaving my room without traces of fucking. I even bring my own cotton sheets to toss over the bed. The last person I visited in a hotel, we “messed up” the sheets and he just checked out. I rather bring my own and wash them, I don’t need housekeeping knowing my business 🤫
  6. I found an article, dated this year: that sheds some light on the circumstances at play currently. Although I don’t agree with “all” of the suggestions (like some of the face verification because that can be used in bad ways also), it does give a general overall review: https://www.escortsaffair.com/blog/698f269bc14c5f115c210400
  7. There was something awhile ago I read in maybe like an escort online guide, that encouraged clients to seek out escorts with “actual names”. Anything otherwise is likely to be taken with suspicion. It screams “phony”. You mean the same non-gay men advertising on a MsM (men sex with men) with sketchy sounding profile names, that some clients chase after because they think they’re getting a straight man who wants to lay next to them? Maybe so… But it’s not confined to “Black men” because there’s many posts about Latino scam rings running the same games. 💯 and it’s considered rape because it’s not consenting to sleep with that person for something different than what was agreed on. Also keep in mind: PayPal is EXTREMELY sex worker unfriendly. They have shut down 2 of my business accounts, BOTH times were because of clients who tattled trying to get their money back. One won most of his money except my deposit back, the other agreed it was a mistake and we rescheduled but by that point, he pushed the dispute thru and PayPal closed my account again. I waited like a month to get my money released from PayPal. So going forward, it’s definitely worth it to bear that in mind. I would not be using PayPal for that purpose. They were okay before Cash App and Venmo was around but it’s very risky now
  8. To add, Off topic somewhat, but more relevant to hotels themselves: I have been using hotels less lately. However I still have status to several brands. Reason why: The other week I crashed out at someone’s motel after hanging out: because it was already after midnight , only to be awakened by housekeeping knocking at 9 a.m. Idk why dude didn’t have a sign up. And for whatever reason he wanted to up and leave at the same time. But that’s one peeve of mine with hotels and just crashing at unknown folks place in general. I didn’t sign up to wake up early lol. It hit me like a bad dream and I was like FUCK, why did I bother sleeping over. I should have left the night before. Sure enough, the next morning I’m having to do 90 in Saturday morning traffic, which irritated me even more. So I be like, fuck hotels with their inconvenient checkout times lol. And Fuck the guys who fail to inform ahead of time, that they will be leaving out first thing! It’s so rude. It’s one thing to let someone know the night before to allow the option, but to surprise them with it in the morning is rather petty and trifling. Not that I expect much more integrity, from the majority out here cruising. I ended up getting back to where I was staying, and even though I waited in the drive thru for 20 minutes to receive my breakfast and coffee,: I just went back to sleep and didn’t even eat until after noon.
  9. Considering you’re saying these are non-escorts, unfortunately it’s hard to tell what’s going on. I do know; freebie cruising sex is a very different world than paid encounters. Regardless it does sound a bit sketch. Do you reside far from town? When I host, I do arrange a hotel but that’s incorporated into my deposit. The choice is either client come to me, or I go to them. But there’s no in between of splitting hotel costs so we can both stay, unless it’s a dating situation…and that’d of been someone I’d known longer than just “yesterday”. That sounds about right, but a shoddy way of going about it. So many people out here be on some scam/finesse shit that it’s harder to even run a business around sex work. You really have to know how to move, know the red flags, and decipher between real and fake. Unfortunately A4A too is also not the best when it comes down to it. If I were able to regularly host: (unlike now I’m having to arrange hotels to host) BUT I pay for that out of my own pocket ONCE I receive deposit to confirm a session. But I would not leave the comfort of my hosting venue, to get a hotel with someone…unless I was staying with friends or family and couldn’t host. Otherwise it don’t make sense.
  10. I stick to smaller gyms and tend to go during off peak hours. I went today, around 7:30 and there was maybe 5 of us there. I could have did a strenuous workout, but I didn’t want to stay too late as I had to commute home. It could be your city, but I doubt the “whole world” wants to be fit. In the Midwest and South there’s still a lot of obesity. Also, not to put down or generalize: but I do notice fewer gay black men and gays in general, are going to the gym in some areas. It makes me cringe when I go to the gym, and it’s only the hetero-flexible guys hanging with their bros. I go on the apps, and all the gay guys are 5,000 feet from the gym 😑 I would love to bulk up more, but I’m also aware that some of these guys out there are using 💉 to get there. No shade if that’s the case but, that doesn’t work for everybody. Even just naturally working out with legal GNC/Walmart/Vitamin supplements, I’ve outgrown some really nice shirts that I used to love wearing but they look too small on me now. I’ve also ripped a few pair of jeans and shorts 😂 I also like to admire a nice body, however I find too many gym warriors be hella conceited and narcissistic. Like, it’s all about them (not saying everybody is but, across the board they can be. Or they’re only loyal with people who are in their party/druggie circle). Sometimes I rather just go for a guy who’s not in the gym as much, but I do want to have someone who is fitness conscious to some degree.
  11. You make an accurate point. However, it’s hard to tell whether the “restaurant” is the escort advertising, or the advertising platform itself. I’m leaning on the fact that it’s moreso the advertising platforms themselves that go out of fashion, versus the individual escort (as we’ve seen over the years with Men4rent, Backpage, HourBoy, Rentboy, Adam4Adam, etc ). I recently spent 2 weeks in a city going to the bars almost every other night. I can definitely say I haven’t lost my edge, considering all the compliments and phone numbers I was getting. But the issue is; the sex work game online is very different these days. It’s ultra packed, everybody and their brother is trying to be a content creator. And I can almost imagine certain Rent Men ads are just trying to drive content sales versus being escorts. But you do. You do need to know. Because so many clients contacting from RM (and you guys here on the forum) make assumptions about what I’m doing, what city I’m in, how many clients I’m seeing, what time of day I’m cumming, cross examining why I need more than 1 hours notice to meet etc etc. So if anyone is going to assume, it’s probably a good idea to first understand what’s actually going on. And unfortunately, the RentMen platform does bare minimum to direct clients on how to make plans with an escort in a way that’s conducive and not counterproductive. Therein lies my job, which I try to convey on the 350 characters allowed in my auto reply/my website/my text introductory message: which apparently some guys seem to “ignore and move on”, thus remaining IGNORant. You really think all this can be accurately solved in 2 sentences 😂 You can always read other material if this is too advanced level for you. Here’s the door 🥾 🚪 Well said 👏🏽 And it’s about more than venting. Like I said above, these things aren’t being facilitated on our ads. The stuff I talk about here, I can’t have in a discussion with a client. I’m not embarrassed or shamed to talk about it here. It’s a forum, with clients and escorts participating. We should all be adult and mature enough to talk about it without feeling dismissed or put down. And yes, I understand it can be long winded and not sexy to talk about sometimes but: that’s the reality. People want to act like everything is peachy creamy, and it is at times BUT, it’s currently not. I just got back from a 2 week trip, meaning away from home. I only had 2 clients and 2 “promotionals” (I say because I accepted 2 offers from folks on a hookup app, but it was not my actual rate. But, it was preferable to meeting for free). However, 2 clients in 2 weeks is completely unacceptable. Meanwhile, I was sifting thru inquiry after inquiry on the RentMen messenger, texts from MoFos who stopped replying or flaked out, people offering impossible rates (like $100). It’s a mess out here in many cities. That’s why now, I don’t go anywhere without confirmed bookings. And like I told @Colton, people do need to understand that if I don’t advertise ahead of arriving to a city, I am not willing to take the risk to just “show up”. People see my ad in a city the moment I move it there, and think “oh you’re here now?” I’ve traveled all over the country (US) and know from experience it’s never wise to go to a city with no planning, and hoping for clients to show up. Because it’s too many other escorts in the industry these days, and most clients have no idea about pricing. And closing of Craigslist back in 2010, there used to be an understanding that sites like Rentboy and Men4Rent had more upscale priced providers. Now, it seems anybody and everybody is on it and half the time they have no idea that $150/$200 doesn’t work for every appointment 16 years later.
  12. I’m a fan of overnights but, I would first ensure compatibility. One of my sponsors years ago, first came to my city for vacation and to see me for a couple hours. After that I would go to his area for overnights. Sometimes instead of an overnight, you can start off with a couple hours and perhaps provide a hotel room for the guy. I did that in one city couple months ago. I went there, client had hotel ready, reserved a couple hours and then he went home and let me keep the room for the night (And being he procured the room, I didn’t need to bring other clients to “make back” hotel money).
  13. So no, that’s not what I’m communicating. I’m simply saying, I can’t make big plans specifically traveling to other cities: based solely on instant message emails. Even if I’m just sitting at home doing nothing or “available now”, spending time back and forth on instant messages isn’t an efficient way of booking a visit. Also it’s like which came first, the cock 🐓 or the egg 🥚 ? In this case it’s: who came first, the fake/flaky client or the jaded escort? Idk about you but, it’s not hard to find how flaky general gay sex seeking can be: hookup apps are filled with looky loos who aren’t serious about meeting. Or maybe they are serious but, the competitor/anon nature of online cruising opens the door to just overall time-wasting and goose chase, made easy. I may have told this story before, years ago: but it’s an example that even now is still a reason why I need more than just an email to take bookings seriously: Years ago back when Men4Rent/Rentboy was around, I took a trip to a city (Indianapolis). I had an inbox full of emails, from people claiming to want to meet when I got to town. Can’t remember how many actual texts I received, but I don’t think it would have been enough nowadays to go. I drove out, thinking I would be fully booked. I was already somewhat taking a leap, going with only enough for gas and hotel for a couple days. Well, I got there. Met 1 client for $150 at the time (this was 2010 so that’s probably to equal to $200 now but still, wasn’t enough). NON of the other “inquiries” ended up following thru. I ended up stranded for 2 days, before I could get help out. That above situation has reared its head from time to time in other cities, but that was the first and worst time I experienced how; email inquiries are not a good measure of anticipating bookings. I recently turned down a 4 day friend’s trip to Pensacola and New Orleans a couple weeks ago. I wanted to join, but business has been slow so, I have to plan things sensibly. I was getting RentMen messages, but only a couple texts that wouldn’t have coordinated with the time frame I had to work with. I wasn’t about to drive 7 hours from where I was, without some REAL confirmed inquiries. Nowadays if I don’t have text/phone CONFIRMED bookings with deposit, I won’t go. Inquiries asking if I’m in town/when I’m coming to town/love to see me when I’m in town DON’T COUNT. And no I’m not “taking risks” because as I explained above, risks can cause one to lose money or end up stranded if going on a limited budget expecting payment upon arrival, only to be stood up by a bunch of phonies. Well, some cities can support that. However there’s some cities where there’s dozens of guys advertising that really can’t support it. I was in Nashville recently, and it’s super packed with providers but yet: nobody is buying out there. So many people trying to do the same thing. The nightclubs have their own system in place. When I lived there years ago, it was only about 10 escorts or less. Now there’s like 100. A MoFo it sure is. I’ve raised my rates slowly by $50-$100 since Covid but inflation isn’t my main reason. For me it’s the fewer clientele booking, and longer distances I’m having to commute to reach clients. Just today I commuted 5.5 hours (to be fair, it’s a detoured route home so not solely for bookings, but it’s still traveling from one area and going to the next), but my first session was over $300. Years ago I could do $200, but that came with more clients and different hotel prices. So it’s appreciated to have $300-$400 these days. I’m trying not to implement a $500 across the board “minimum price”, as I know not everyone can come up with that BUT: for some areas I do just because that’s what it usually takes to be comfortable as a mainly touring provider that I am. Can. Can. Can. Speculatively talking That doesn’t mean IS MAKING. Keep in mind, we’re not women. For one. So once that 💦 cums, not all of us desire to keep going and seeing more guys. I tend to only see 1 client max in a day. Maybe 2 if I want to keep busy, 3 if I’m feeling extra 🐐 And keep in mind that’s not even everyday. I may have days in between bookings even in the biggest cities. Free sex is easy to come across. But when it’s a price involved, things get very different. And sometimes clients aren’t always available to be found on the main escort/masseur sites. It can take a bit of searching. I actually landed a female potential client at a hotel bar one night, but it didn’t turn into sex, just a bit of company. I’m not straight, just straight to bed 😆
  14. I tend to do better afternoon and evenings after I’ve had time to fully wake up. Morning woods are functional but, the big lick 👅 for me is usually later in the day Keep in mind, that would assume every provider is cumming everyday. Which is probably a stereotype, same as seeing clients everyday. I personally, have not came in nearly a week. That includes self pleasure. I tried to the other night to a BJ but, it was random, late and 1 too many drinks. Whoever the next guy is, is going to be quite lucky 💦 That also assumes having a guy abstain from cumming will give a better load, which is also variable. Theres been times I’ve cum more on the 2nd or 3rd time than on the 1st. There’s plenty who are suitable for what you’re seeking…myself included. Though I am convinced bottoms seem to cum an amplified amount more than some tops. Must be the prostate 🐿️ stimulation lol
  15. That’s what you do, but it’s evident that many contacting on the app are not booking in advance nor giving a day to respond. You’re taking it personally and trying to defend yourself when I’m not even coming at you nor the clients. I’m just talking about the preferred mode of communication. And if you are contacting someone who has a preferred method of communication that does not include back and forth chat on messenger, what’s fair is that people abide by that.
  16. I didn’t say asking a question is a problem. Again, the issue is moreso the cumulative effect of answering DOZENS of messages of the same questions that could easily be answered in a simply auto reply… Which if you then follow such directions: you could likely get to a point where other questions can be answered. But if you just immediately write someone off because they aren’t willing to stop, pull over on the highway 🛣️ while they may be driving for 8-9 hours to the next city, or STOP 🛑 in the middle of a client and answer your RentMen IM message (that many probably won’t respond to after the “moment” passes anyway): then yes that makes you dismissive and high maintenance. Everyone has a way of working that works for them. Having an attitude that a provider is “jaded” just because they want to make responding to inquiries easier is a bit assumptive.
  17. And another thing, before you make assumptions on “why I’m not getting bookings” (which is bullshit because I never said that. I spoke about HOW bookings seem to have become harder to arrange): Other people across the web feel similar to me. Perhaps you need to educate yourself and understand better how some of us do get annoyed about excessive/non committal messages (again, not me speaking but another person in another realm of sex work)
  18. Well just because you want to only have discussions that put clients in a light that’s appeasing to you, and never bring up anything that’s contrary to what you want to hear: doesn’t mean the entire client community world feels the same way. Don’t gotta be an 🐈 about it though.
  19. Hold your horses, you’re overstating what I’m saying. I didn’t simply say pay to communicate.
  20. The problem is: you’re assuming that having a communication back and forth is going to turn into them following thru on an appointment. The straight up truth is many of them ARE NOT following thru. Even though I have an auto reply, I will usually go back and send a 2nd follow up message letting them know I received the message and checked their profile and let me know when/where they want to meet. Many times, the questions go unanswered when I reply. And that’s the problem I have with it. I can show you exactly what I’m talking about: and And in regards to getting an email when I receive a message: that does not always happen, and it’s been discussed before. I’m even supposed to get live text banners showing when I get a message. Sometimes they come thru, other times they do not. It has nothing to do with me being jaded, however I am of the traditional way of booking which is just texting or emails that are WELL WRITTEN and contain RELATIVE DETAILS. Not just 1 or 2 word messages that leave me to have to figure out more from them. Again, the RM app does not function like a Grindr/hookup app. These guys message, then don’t follow up for hours. Many have no picture, no mention of their sexual position, no mention of when/where/how to meet. Absolutely fucking nothing. So having an auto reply is good to have. To say you would ignore it, comes off dismissive and high maintenance. Like you MUST have them personally respond, otherwise you’ll move on. Smart. I just had someone last night reach out, make seem like they’re booking from the app, text me and call me: but then never followed through. If the solution is to just delete the RM app and turn off auto replies so I look less jaded, that could potentially be the solution. But going back and forth on the app with people who half ass don’t respond back is not how I want to communicate for appointments. Also keep in mind, I’m on Adam4Adam, RentMasseur, and RentMen. That’s 3 different platforms of messages to keep up with. Not to mention one of the non escort apps, that I only deal with because it’s so easy to reply back and forth: but I also don’t meet clients from there who do not provide a phone number. So having an auto reply that doesn’t get ignored, is something I could appreciate. If they can first get past the 1st point, that’s all the better right there.
  21. That’s a separate topic, not related to the discussion at hand. But the short answer is: stings are often ploys for human trafficking (of women/minors). Gays were once targets of stings at public parks and beaches, but now with online replacing public cruising, it’s not a “thing” anymore. So the focus isn’t a public concern, therefore is not often pursued. The only time I hear about stings with male providers is when there’s an existing crime being occurred in the process. Drugs, robbery, domestic disputes etc.
  22. That however depends; how often is the regular happening? I don’t know if sending a randomized text announcing a rate increase would fair any better with clients tbh. Some regulars may come around every week (rare in this super saturated market these days), some every month, some couple times a year, some may only come around every once in a blue with no regular schedule. So if I haven’t seen someone in 2+ months, it may not even be appropriate to do that. And as I’ve said in another post: some people’s rates may go up due to factors like fewer clients. I know for me, I don’t want to go book a $100-$150 hotel if I’m only getting offered $200/250 and 1 client shows up. So I now have to push for more just to actually see 250 after the travel I do and possibly hotel room as well.
  23. So in this regard, just understand that by dismissing the auto-reply: you’re taking away from the fact that the auto reply does clients a favor by allowing us to give a reply even when we may not be readily available to engage in chat, or even notice the chat at all. It’s giving you free information and if you ignore and move on, you’ve just missed 🛫 something that may be conducive to booking the session. Stuff like rates, phone number, amount of notice needed; should not be grounds for “moving on”. If anything, that just says the provider wants informed clients, not window shoppers. The other issue is, keep in mind that you’re not the only one messaging on the RentMen chat. It’s already a lot to have to respond to texts everyday from people who aren’t intentional. But to ask us to also keep track of a 3rd party messenger app that frequently crashes and isn’t always notified on our phone: is asking for additional work on top or work already being done. Not to mention, 90% of the replies contain no real info to go off of. Here’s some examples: and another: And another: Thats just 3 examples. But the amount of instant messages I receive who not talking anything relevant: is all day everyday. If someone wants to have a conversation on RentMen messenger, they can always Cash App/venmo me $25 and have a consultation. But of course there’s people who have a problem with that too. They just expect free attention, not realizing we are not a hookup app platform. Too many guys reach out like they’re talking on hookup apps, and it’s highly irritating. If people can wave $5-10 bills 💵 for drag shows, we need to also normalize the fact that WE SHOULD NOT BE EXPECTED TO DO ANYTHING FREE when it comes to booking a visit. Yes the club pays the performers, but the customers have been trained to tip. I want RentMen to train customers that they need to be willing to spend money to engage in instant messenger chat/unlock private pics etc. But I’ve come out with my own website that does that: And I’m tempted to start limiting my photo profile on the sites due to the fact it’s too many people looking, but not enough booking.
  24. Also to add to this: What is with the “prospective” clients who MEDDLE in on my travel schedule and current location??? People need to understand how RentMen/Advertising works. Just because my ad shows in a city doesn’t always mean I’m presently there. But it also doesn’t MATTER as long as I can get there, and I know what all appointments to expect when I arrive. It’s just an ad. It’s not a live location on my iPhone. I can move my ad between California and Minnesota all day long. It’s for exposure. It’s to gather interest, in order to prepare and be able to plan ahead. However, the getting in my business, trying to find out if I’m actually in town (like some clients seem to think if I’m not there “now”, then I won’t be at all), is unnecessary. But somehow they also magically expect me to eagerly travel to a city, using my own money or other client’s money I earned: without any booking commitment. All I need to know: is for a client to tell me where THEY are at, and when THEY are open to consider meeting. But coming on my phone, texting me trying to figure out where I’m staying, what city I’m at, how long I’m in town etc: when that person hasn’t even gotten past the 1st step of booking, is crazy. I’ve already had to block/blacklist 2-3 “clients” this weekend for trying to assume and pry into my current location before even booking anything I have the perfect song to dedicate to people who do that:
  25. That may have worked for you, but my interactions with clients have varied. Situations of language barriers or stuff on here they talk about being caught up in scams or what not. At the same time, switching from your regular to a “cheaper/eager” option isn’t necessarily the best move either. If people are only willing to support “Venezuelan refugees”, that is essentially going to make it harder for local escorts to stay in the biz. I’ve already seen how in some cities especially on RentMen, it’s mostly all Latin guys advertising. Even in cities with relatively small Latin demographics. And you may think that’s not a problem but, what comes along with that is probably not nearly as promising.
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