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Have most providers stop treating you as a customer?
JB_Studio38 replied to + glutes's topic in Questions About Hiring
I think in general, there’s a lot of this that exists even outside of the escort scene. I think the hookup app and social media culture has made most every gay a mini narcissist as they spend more time trying to maintain their celebrity image. This is going to be even more prevalent with guys who are online promoting and advertising. Hmm, maybe/maybe not? I think there’s so much talk about “mindset, vibrations and frequencies” out there. Unfortunately, you can have all of that together and still come across people who don’t really value your company. I’ve had to stop dealing with a good amount of guy “friends” because even though THEY THINK they are positive, motivational and high vibrational: they actually come off as toxic, judgmental, and being around them is a chore because they think they’re better than everybody just because they have a couple things going for themselves. I’ve done the happy, be positive mindset (which I hate how easily that word gets used. Especially when it comes from gay men who are typically flaky to begin with). However, it’s still a lot of people: clients, escorts, friends, family: who are all about them or the people they are closest to. They may be a good friend to them, but then act a completely different way towards somebody they don’t know. Or only have a sexual relationship with. So all the bubbly feel good stuff only works on a solitary basis. Yes, a good mindset and vibration, is good for YOU. But then when you add in a few bitter queens, you’re having a whole other conversation because they may not respect you in the way you expect them to. -
Yeah, someone would have died that day, and it wouldn’t have been me 😂 (j/k). I actually did something like that in Seattle few years ago, but it was a dual purpose sibling stay plus I invited someone from a dating app over and had fun. The other 2 clients who flaked, it was their loss. But that was also around the time where I was struggling with fully accepting deposits, and just accepting clients quickly without “complicating it” with deposits (as some people like to say it). After having multiple clients in Seattle flake during 1 trip: that sealed the deal to never go back to trusting people when travel and hotel expenses are involved. Only very exceptional circumstances will I do. Unfortunately that’s just one of the hard experiences that can be learning lessons. This is not a biz where the person who is trying to make money, should shoulder the bigger risk. And that’s why I tell people, a deposit isn’t “free money” and no I can’t host/travel just because you promise me you’ll show up. If I’m spending money upfront, I need a better assurance of attendance. And money is the best way. I even had a client last month call himself turning me down about a deposit after cancelling before he even sent a deposit. And then he asked if I could rebook him in December 😂 I’m like, you can’t be serious. Then I look at references the other day, he did it to someone else. Yeah I had that happen once, and only once some time ago. What was so bad, the particular client actually took the envelope back while I was in the shower. I now never go behind “closed doors” on a client or any guy, if he’s in my hotel room. I’d rather be like, leave the goods but please wait in the lobby while I get ready.
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Well said.. Also, every so often I’ll try to book someone without a deposit if I’m just actively in a hotel and open to fit someone in before checkout. But just the other week I did that, the guy gets hotel address and even texted me. I didn’t mention deposit but said he can pay with cash or one of the phone apps. Then disappears, NCNS. Blocked me on the app also. I had til like 1 p.m. to host, but he didn’t even show up. Meanwhile, the 2 other clients who did come thru both paid deposits. I actually did this last week. Guy was very new to “computers” and similar pay apps. So I just met him outside and arranged deposit. However even with that, he gave me shit saying I could run off with it. But why run off with $100, knowing he’s giving me more? I told him, I’m not going to mess up my reputation over that. So yeah, cash only can still arrange a deposit. If I have to book a hotel for a specific session, I’ve had guys do that. However, I often recommend the deposit ahead of time because: I often need those first 10-15 minutes to set the bed, tailor the ambience etc. If I’m getting the deposit in person, that means someone may end up waiting which I try to avoid doing.
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The ‘too busy to meet’ conundrum among seekers:
JB_Studio38 replied to JB_Studio38's topic in Questions About Hiring
So shortly after posting this: I ended up booking someone at midnight in another town that I took same day notice. He was great. I had to stay in the area overnight, but then the next day I picked up another client. Score 🏆 lol. Unfortunately neither were from RentMen but Adam4Adam and another hookup app. As I said in a different post, RentMen doesn’t get as much traction in the smaller towns. Which sucks considering it’s the most expensive of the platforms I’m on. Then I went on tour couple days later, so I often tunnel vision away from social networking when I’m on tour. That said, I get what you’re saying. And I do that. Tbh so many people in my regular lifestyle think I’m busy or that I don’t have time. But truth is, I’m very often working on my client’s time. Even the last trip I took: was not planned necessarily on my time. I went as it coordinated with my client’s visit to the area also. I have a couple friends in the twin cities area, and I didn’t even inform them I was coming until the day of I was commuting to my client. Because if some shitty weather delayed the travel, I might have not gone at all; since this particular client also runs on a limited availability…Even though he’s perfectly free, he is only in a city a set few days at a time once a month. Of course after meeting my main client, I can go back to my own schedule which is often open. But since this post, I haven’t had any issues with clients not being able to meet late. One of my meets, he was actually needing to meet at like 1 a.m., and booked a hotel for me when I got to town around 11, so I could get ready. That was a sweet gesture. That is true. And I do try to say that to myself at times. That it’s just the way it is. Like even in the case of the client in original post, I didn’t tell him all the details but: I couldn’t get to him sooner because I was waiting for a tire to arrive that got lost in a set shipped a couple weeks prior. It was scheduled to arrive the day he wanted to meet. But I also ASKED HIM the day before if he could meet, but it was “no it’s not a good day, but tomorrow I can”. But I told him, “I asked earlier if there’s ANYTHING I need to know about how late you can or can’t meet” and I did tell him I had a tire appointment around 4. He just said no and to let him know. Well I did let him know, once I knew myself what time I would have everything finished. But then he says 9 is too late. Many clients are fine with 9 pm, but I guess he is one of the up at a 5 a.m. guys. Which wasn’t relayed to me until I was getting ready to walk out the door 🙈 Fortunately the universe gave me 2 new clients because I was really relying on that session worth $400. But he couldn’t meet the next day because he had a wedding. Busy busy busy. But not my burden to carry. Yeah and those types I don’t even bother trying to accommodate. I spent many years earlier in the escort world, rushing to reach last minute clients. Nowadays, I would never. It’s not worth it, especially if they can’t give reasonable notice. Well applaud 👏🏽 to you for having the patience and understanding. Many clients out there can’t or don’t want to be flexible. Some like the control factor of making an escort be there and square at a set time, not understanding that very often: meeting new clients isn’t a routine commute or schedule. If I have dinner plans at 6 and a client wants to meet by or before 7, that’s going to create a time discrepancy. Like I don’t want to go to a session hungry because it could be 3 hours minimum from commute, booking and going back. But I also don’t want to miss out on the session all together, or show up on a full stomach. One thing I’m finding and I even told one of my favorite clients: there’s starting to be certain times and days that don’t seem to work. I’ve already discouraged 🚫 booking after noon and before 3 due to hotel check in/out times when I have to arrange in-calls. I’m also considering not booking after 5 before 7 p.m., because that tends to conflict with any dinner plans I may have, though when I’m traveling solo I can usually be flexible. I’m also starting to reconsider Sundays for any travels. I used to like traveling on Sundays but now I’m finding I can’t get going until later in the day. Also the Midwest is just weird with the weather. It was crappy weather Saturday, so I couldn’t get anything done outside. Then Sunday was beautiful so I grilled and did stuff outside. I didn’t have any appointments, even though I was open to take some after 6 p.m. but the client I thought I had, flaked (per my recent post). And now today Monday, very different weather than yesterday. I probably won’t be open to take any bookings for outcalls since it’s planning to be snowing. -
I posted on a different platform about how unreliable dudes tend to be over the holidays (both gay and straight alike), and it always seems like clockwork…when it’ll go down. Despite my best attempts, some of them manage to go along with pretending to book but then don’t. But 2 examples: a previously met 1st time client who did everything right the first meet couple weeks ago, I touched base with Saturday. We been occasionally in touch. I casually ask around 1 p.m. (afternoon) if he may be in my area and that I’m open to connect if so. No response, no worries. But then 2 in the morning and I see a text and email response asking if I’m in town. I respond back first thing when I see it, although it was about hour and half later (I’m normally not up at 3:30 a.m. but I decided to catch up on manscaping lol). I also normally don’t take same day meets after midnight much. However, no response then or the next day. I don’t want to kick him off just yet, but why hit me up hours later, when he could have just responded earlier and made something happen seamlessly. Then another is pretending to book me yesterday. Doesn’t want to exchange numbers as instructed. I’m sending location where to meet for incall on the app we’re communicating on. Then no response. So I unsend the message and block him. Not the first time he’s played around with me either. Then another client contacting me to play in his truck, and he not only tried to game me into thinking other “models” talk explicit when giving out rates: he goes on to say “well I only feel okay playing in my semi because of my anxiety I don’t want to meet anywhere else”. I ask to see where he’ll be so I can check what hotels may be near him, no reply. Because no way am I going to go meet in some randos truck. All of that after a disagreement with another guy I been seeing casually who’s not a client, after he showed for the 3rd time this year, to not be reliable to pay his share when trying to travel with. So I told him it’s over with. I also told myself the other day that I really rather only see clients to meet both my dating and sexual needs…but goddamit it makes it hard to consider when half of em out there, can’t be relied on when I have the time available. As a joke: has anyone gay explored being straight? I know we often hear it going the other way around lol. But I’m starting to wonder if I should switch teams. Dealing with dudes some days, is like a city having a losing NFL streak 🙈 It’s like they do things to push me to the edge 🧗🏾♂️ but then can’t handle the fallout it brings.
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The ‘too busy to meet’ conundrum among seekers:
JB_Studio38 posted a topic in Questions About Hiring
This isn’t about flaky clients or time-wasters. It’s a general assessment of what I observe across Rent sites as a whole. Clients will contact me and suggest meeting, but then when it comes down to them having the time to set aside: it becomes a problem. Some basic insight about me: I’m a low volume provider, I do not live in the metro area of a major city. I’m not standing on a virtual street corner with a red light 🚨 on, waiting to be picked up. I have my time booked typically only 2 to 3 clients a week, more if I’m traveling and less when I’m home. It’s been that way for awhile. I used to enjoy and be able to accommodate high volume, last minute inquiries: but times have changed. Although I still do it every so often from the comfort of a hotel room, it’s not often that I can come across someone whose schedule matches up with each other short notice. That said, it’s a bit grating when a seeker asks to meet: but then it’s limited by time restrictions because they are busy with work, family, alternative plans etc etc. It puts me in a position where I feel I have to rush, cancel personal plans, upend my schedule etc to meet. Then suddenly it’s not sexy anymore. This is especially the case this time of year. With the sun going down earlier, I prefer to spend my daylight hours getting things done. I also live 1-2 hours minimum from ANY sex work action so: seeing a client earlier means cutting out 2-4 hours of my day to accommodate. Sometimes I can do that, most times: guys wanting to meet coincide with other things I already had considered getting done. Things that are many times, may be related to accommodating the session. Sometimes a 6 p.m. has to be moved to 8 p.m. Of course I always communicate with clients ahead of time and ensure whether or not they have any other plans in the vicinity of our time. However, when I’m actively in a city visiting, it’s usually only 10-20 minutes to get to a client. I can often get there sooner, but I’ve still found myself cancelling plans to accommodate. Say I get a 2 p.m., “are you available today” request. 9/10 they won’t be available after 5 p.m. It’s always, “oh I can’t do after that time, maybe next time”. Then I have to drop my plans or cancel on friends. Over the summer, I had a situation where a client wanted a same day booking on the same day a date of mine booked us a hotel. I hated turning down $400, but I agreed to meet the date first. The client was only in town for 1 day. In some cases I may have wanted to plan my schedule better, but other cases: I’m having even serious previous clients ask about a booking and then not being able to keep it because they already planned XXX and it leaves no time to meet. Maybe I’m just a bit intolerant at times, but I hate when someone reaches out for plans and then changes up to say they’re too busy to meet. Or I give them a time, but then anything after 4 or 5 p.m. is “too late”. Or they magically have dinner plans that I was never informed of. I understand we’re a business but: we’re also individuals. Meeting clients isn’t necessarily a routine thing. A different city, different neighborhood, different schedule is not always easy to plan within a day or 2 notice. But I do appreciate the clients who are willing to allow flexibility in their time. I’m even considering getting rid of doing hourly sessions all together and only offering 1 and 2 day engagements, that way an hour or 2 buffer won’t necessarily mean the entire booking is lost. However I know many seekers aren’t able to extend that much time with a provider at first. -
In my experience: any kind of meeting for first time at a bathhouse or “sex shop” is bad business, regardless who’s at fault. Unless you can really trust the person or are experienced with bathhouse setups (I’ve met a client or 2 there before myself, but usually it was THEM who suggested it.) I had a client in Denver talk me into meeting him at a large sex shop with a private theater area. I was smart enough to ask him to meet me out front first before paying to go back there, but I was stupid to have even gone there in the first place because: he never showed himself, and was trying to get me to go in the back in which I would have needed to pay $10 to get in. What the fuck? You booking an escort, it’s not that kind of arrangement. I don’t think it was a case of a toxic provider, or you needing therapy. I think y'all were just a bad match and the escort wasn’t fully vetted for your compatibility. In the future: don’t agree to meet anyplace high risk, like a bathhouse, sex shop, car etc. And that police line he pulled was a very weak and lame tactic, him and his friend should have been banned from the establishment for impersonating a Police Officer. I would have reported him to the staff.
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You’re right about that. I’ve heard from many guys who won’t meet in their home town even at a hotel. The Bentonville/Rogers/Fayetteville area does have potential: but the hookup scene there is so late 🚮 I’ve had back to back regrettable experiences, dealing with the dudes there outside of clients. I find it only worth going once or twice a year, even though it’s only an afternoon drive away. Last trip I did to Bentonville, I stayed for 2 days meeting 2 pre-booked clients. Before I left town, I had some “free time” and a hot “date” invited me to his hotel suite that had 2 beds and was like, “oh you can’t spend the night here, me and my husband have that agreement for hookups”. He was visiting from out of state. I was like what?? Well how about I leave now, before we go any further: that way I have enough time to figure out whether I want to stay in town or drive back home 😂 ended up just buying a couple new shirts and leaving town after that revelation lol.
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Just to clarify: I don’t use the hookup apps for seeking. However, I still introduce myself where I can if someone reaches out. Sometimes something comes from it, other times not. But I have met some cool partakers from Grindr who would have otherwise not found me on RentMen because, nobody in my area knows of it. Most the guys looking for other guys in my region, are using the hookup apps. So it’s just making use of the only available resource for the most part. As for smaller markets I do agree, however there’s clients everywhere. Some of my best clients were from podunk towns. Many of the gays with money in the city, already have their tribe of hookups. It leaves me to rely on closeted or “retired from the gay nightlife” guys. That’s why I want RentMen to grow beyond just NYC and LA because the bigger cities aren’t always that great unless like you say: you’re really able to dish out tons of porn and have the marketing brand to put it out there. Which I’m doing now with content but, escort stuff is still more sustainable for me than trying to turn virtual stuff into big numbers.
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I do but, I rather have genuine guys hitting me up versus seeing client after client with negative feedback. Or hearing my text alert go off, only to be offered yet another sugar daddy arrangement. But I do link my website in my ad which can be directed to my phone number Yeah or looking is ALL they’re doing. Looking but not booking. I always like to use the full 12 cities available and fill them with nearby and upcoming travel cities. However even then, RentMen.eu doesn’t really display on the main page like Rent.Men does. I’m often having to change my ad to a certain city in order to get better exposure, but then I get a lot of “are you available today/tomorrow?” But when I’m not planning to be in the area for a couple/few weeks it’s hard to ensure that same client will be available that far out. Not to mention, this year I’ve had to just bin/postpone a lot of trips either due to not enough confirmed bookings or having issues planning it. And although I travelled during the early part of the U.S. shutdown, I decided to hold on any other trips until things get situated. Plus it’s not been very booked. So lately I’ve just been advertising local within 2 hours away and then just doing other locations only once I’ve gotten a secured client before going. My regulars here know where to reach me, plus I prefer to have people contact me privately here versus actively advertising.
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I’ve had to do the hidden number feature because one: too many spam sugar daddy texts day in/day out. Very annoying especially when days go by with no clients from the site. Also, too many game players would contact when my number was public. No real intention of booking and it would just detract from the enjoyment of the site.
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Grindr is exactly the app I refer to not use lol. And by cheap, I don’t mean the rates they offer: I mean like, they will block/flake at any mention of being for hire and even if it’s no premise of pay for play, they often expect the other guy to cover rooms solely on their own dime and/or travel to their place even if it’s far away. Gays will grub-hub/door dash/Uber willy 🍆 nilly, but expect hookups to come for free even if it involves the other party booking hotel to host or traveling across town when it’s inconvenient to do so. RentMen is great for what it is, but I am a little annoyed that they don’t seem to be pushing to get the site on other platforms. I wish with all the annoying gaming ads Grindr has, they would advertise RentMen ads. RentMen could also be advertised on adam4adam, since many prospective there also don’t know about RentMen.
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Been away, but by decided to stop back by and check on my fellow fellows… But something been on my mind, and that’s me wondering if RentMen can increase its presence. I feel it is popular in the big megapolis cities, but I’ve been going on some trips lately where I’m just not getting hardly any meets from RM. The nearest main cities to me are Kansas City, Tulsa, Wichita and St. Louis. There’s also Bentonville in Arkansas (headquarters of Walmart). I can go on hookup apps (which shall remain nameless lol) and be hit by messages left and right with people wanting to meet (often moreso pretending). Meanwhile, I can be “available now” and platinum boosted and still get nothing from RentMen for days. Granted, I’ve moved to taking my number down publicly and used the signed in member option only for displaying number. And right now I’ve frozen my ad for a few days until I’m ready to go on my travels simply because too many days have gone by in my local area without a booking from it, and in case anyone doesn’t know: Gold ad is not free, so the more it sits the more time is running out. I wish RM had the popularity of Craigslist back in the day, where it could work in just about any big or small town. However I’ve used it this year in Dallas, Houston, Denver, Nashville, Detroit, and a few other areas. I’m still getting bookings from it, but I have talked to guys in person, and many of them have no idea what RentMen is. Some cities have no ads running. Or like 1 or 2 guys. I can understand it may be hard to encourage guys to pay in a society that promotes getting sex as free and/or cheap as possible. Hookup app men are NOTORIOUSLY cheap and I’m getting to where I don’t even want to hookup outside of clients anymore, as the willingness to do even basic spending from hookup app men seems to be at an all time low. But sometimes I concern RM may lose popularity so much and then not be as lucrative of a site.
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This is why for the past few years, I require a deposit good towards the session and have an option and nominal “consultation” if they want to talk to me beyond the essential details. I’ve tried to go back to the “old days”, but kept reverting back and now it’s a natural part of my meetup process. My patience dealing with flakes is best managed by limiting the amount of guys who can book without any upfront confirmation. Plus, the gay escort “scene” has been in decline: despite there being more guys, there seems to be less guys serious about booking anymore like they were 10-15 years ago. Thank hookup apps and fewer access to sites. But even then flakes have always been an issue. Just back then, PayPal, Apple Pay and cash app have made it easier than ever to incorporate. Regardless of what anyone says about deposits: there’s too many crazies and flakes out there, cat fish, guys who want to wind up the competition, etc etc. And for every 1 bad story a client has about getting scammed, we could probably name 50. Also, in-calls can typically be the ones that don’t follow thru the most. I don’t host from home anymore, I haven’t for over a year now. So there’s no way I’m going to front hotel costs without a deposit. The clients who are uncertain about a deposit, will usually book a room for our session instead, in which case I may see them at my discretion…which includes verifying room number and attendance. However when it comes to regular hookups outside of biz: it’s a different playing field. They’re more likely to be or show up to the meet. I think when money is involved, it comes with a different attitude.
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Well at least you gave him something for his effort. Kind of how like the game show Jeopardy gives contestants $1,000 even if they had a 0 score. So don’t feel pissed or ripped. That said, part of it is the pitfalls of hooking up with strangers, and trying to find other options when your plan A isn’t available. And unfortunately when deciding to “go with someone else”, there’s no guarantee that other person will live up to your expectations as the 1st pick may have. And not saying you should have done this but, that’s part of why it’s good practice to be somewhat versatile “if” the opportunity presents. That way you’re not totally reliant on their dick or ass working, to get pleasure 😜
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Why are some clients saying “I only pay in cash”, when…
JB_Studio38 replied to JB_Studio38's topic in The Lounge
I’ve seen it happen where fairly old bills, especially from the 70s-90s: may look counterfeit on a detector and won’t be accepted by an ATM deposit machine. Couple or so years ago I had a $100 bill given by a client from like 1970s. I held onto it for a few days, but then when I went to my bank: it wouldn’t take in the ATM. The teller then tried to claim it was counterfeit after their digital scanner said so. I wasn’t in trouble, but they kept it and sent it off to the National treasury in DC. for “verification”. About 6 months later, I received a check for $100 from the bank saying it was authenticated 🤦🏽♂️ It seems to happen every so often I’ll get an older bill, and it’s a task to figure out where to take it. Earlier this year I was in Dallas at one bank, non of the 2 ATMs would take the bill. I went to another branch of the same company and it accepted it. There’s also a website or 2 out there, where you can look up the serial number of the bill, and it’ll be able to verify its authenticity. There’s certain things to look for. Well, not necessarily. I have had the occasional client claim they can’t take out XXX amount of money because the spouse or accountant will wonder why there’s been that much withdrawn. Overall, as an update: I don’t mind cash. However I have noticed since my initial post, more are willing to use alt methods to confirm and the cash as a main exchange. These days, just about everyone who is looking for “purchases” online has some knowledge of cash app/venmo or similar apps. Usually the ones only wanting to do cash, say so because some other advertiser scammed them on a deposit or something. Its still no guarantee of not getting scammed as I’ve heard of even cash paying clients getting “taken” for a ride. And not the one that feels good 😂 -
Sir by all due respect: there is no negativity or combative nature. I stated my points in this thread in a factual manner. My issue is, every time I discuss something that you find different than how YOU think or believe advertisers/sex workers should operate: you have to then make some flippant comment, or talk about how it’s whining and complaining; and that’s disrespectful. Because when you minimize someone’s experiences and discussions, and then try to poke fun: that makes you look no better. Instead of telling me what I need to do outside of the forum, why don’t you start speaking to me with some respect and credibility? Acknowledge my experiences and challenges, instead of just acting like I’m some starving artist who has no experience and knows about anything except whining and complaining? Let’s start there. Then if you actually have something positive to recommend to me, you would go out of your way, and meet or speak to me privately: not on a forum where you can earn clout.
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I was simply quoting what you said. It’s fine if you decided to double-back and edit what you meant, but regardless of how you sweet n low or Splenda it up: You can’t get miffed because I agreed with what YOU said 🤷🏾♂️ Yes the numbers will show that the average and majority on RM are flakes and regardless of which side it is, browser or advertiser: we both have to do things to protect their time. However, it’s never going to carry the same weight. I’m not really here to say how clients should do that. I’m just making suggestion as it pertains to this topic of deposits.
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And, what are you going to do about it? Don’t like it, stop reading it ✌you have so much to say, yet so little alternative to offer. You’re part of the pack mentality I refer. Big part.
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Dude, stop ✋🏾 You’re always talking about somebody whining, complaining and moaning. YOU are the one doing it the most! All I said is, if someone is LOOKING on a site where those who are there are paying $100 to advertise: there shouldn’t be a surprise if there are some who choose to ask for a monetary confirmation. I don’t know where you get $100 for a ad being a reason to take deposits. I was referring to the costs of doing other things, such as upfront hotel and/or travel or even just local outcalls where the possibility of getting stood up is present.
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BINGO 🎰 You said it 👏🏽 the “average” RM browser is potentially a flake. That’s the #1 reason for the deposits to begin with. The answer answered itself lol. And trust me, I will: I’ve learned too many times not to. If someone thinks we should cover the burden of expenses, they can send me their cash app or other app so I can request money when I need to pay $100 for a hotel plus put down $100 extra for “incidentals” for a client who hasn’t paid a deposit. That’ll have some putting money where their mouth is lol.
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That’s because some here tend to have a pack mentality. Deposits are not terribly received by the average person on RentMen. There is also no average client on RM either. And, if someone isn’t willing to send a deposit, they need to not be surfing 🏄🏾♂️ websites where guys have to pay upwards of $100 or more a month to list on, and sell services. It’s not a hookup app. If someone is going to pay, they’re going to pay. If they’re BSing they’re going to BS. With or without. Deposits are a very small fraction of the bigger picture.
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Ha ha ha. That’s so funny. Not 👎🏾 The other solution is, just blame the flaky escort and sit and let it happen again next time…. And allow others to continue to convey that RELIABLE escorts have to suffer the sins of those who have no business relation with us. Of course it’s easier for some people to naysay the escort, versus thinking critically to see the situation as it is. If I were an escort and it was a client in the situation: I would have always reached out to the regular FIRST anyway. Any time I go to a city, as often as I travel, I’m always touching base with the favorite or the most reliable. I’d still take new bookings but, it’s not like I’m going to turn down someone I know is reliable, in favor of a wild card 🃏 who might not show or follow thru at all. I’m always going to have a contingency plan. The person you clapped your hands to, took things out of context by throwing in a completely different dynamic that had nothing to do with what I was suggesting. #1 Many of the flakes and cancellations I discuss, tend to be those who initiate. It’s not like I’m hitting them up. Therefore, they have a bigger duty to keep their word. And #2: why would someone even say that when this whole topic is referencing an epidemic of Timewasters? Geez, the attitude here, so Grinchy this time of year. Reminds me of the word “Dallitude”. But I can do quotes too:
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And I’ll just add one more thing: requesting a booking at noon for a traveling provider is bad juju off the bat. I can almost imagine, this provider decided he didn’t want to pay his hotel for an extra day to accommodate the 1 noon client, if he had more bookings elsewhere. Or had a bunch of flakes. He may have gone to the next city for another opportunities, versus the one that was scheduled. It’s shitty yes, but it’s the possibilities that can occur. I never accept a noon client when hosting unless he can provide a deposit, which I then can use to either pay for late checkout, or reserve an extra night all together if I feel the desire to use the room for an extra day also. I often tell people and say in my ads: after 11 am to about 2:30 pm is a no zone for me if I’m in a hotel. Unless I’m booking it for more than 1 night, it’s usually too early to check in or too close to checkout time to host. I always suggest people meet before 10:30/11 or after 2:30/3 p.m. Hotels have gotten awful at giving late checkout. Minneapolis hotels charge if you’re a minute late after noon. Ever since Covid, many in the big cities are banging on doors rushing people out BEFORE checkout time.
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Listen, ma’am or dude. If you choose to interpret it that way: without reading between lines of what the message was saying, that’s YOUR burden to carry. I’m simply offering an alternative solution. Clearly it didn’t work out to well in his end, because he got flaked on and then couldn’t get in touch with the favorite guy. So stop with the bullshit, okay. Don’t try to dredge up comments that detract from the message. I wasn’t even talking to you anyway, so…why are you here arguing with me? I was offering a reasonable solution, when I really shouldn’t have done that considering he’s come at me sideways in the past. But I’m just giving suggestions on how to save face without losing opportunity. And don’t come in here lying and saying I’ve dropped people in my personal life for someone else. You’re crossing the line, and that’s going to lose credibility real quick. I never said anything like that. I simply said I have occasionally BEEN FACED WITH having to choose between plans with a new person and plans with someone trusted. This includes but not limited to: friends who may want me to hangout versus a client who hits me up at the last minute. There’s a way to preserve both plans without leaving someone hanging. It’s called having a Plan B. He didn’t have a Plan B because he told the regular guy, “I’m not available, sorry”. When he should have said, “I may be available, but can I let you know by like 11 a.m. tomorrow if I’m free?” That way soon as the flake didn’t respond, he could have had a time deadline to get in touch with his regular guy by. Now he’s scrambling like an egg to find a new guy, at the last minute…who’s probably also going to flake on him. And then he’s going to come on here and say HE should get a deposit. For what? What money on ads and hotel did he spend?
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