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Orlando is one of the worst markets I’ve visited this year. I was just there couple months ago, and other than one consistent regular, it was hardly anything going on at all. With the exception of some of the smaller retirement/beach communities: Florida cities have been ran into the ground with sex workers and I found I don’t really stay busy enough in Orlando, Tampa, Miami etc. I’m currently on “tour” but I’ve already had to cancel 2 potential cities due to lack of firm/confirmed bookings. I go on RentMen and there’s a bunch of messages, but people asking for private pics or just making comments without necessarily implying that they have a plan to book. It’s tiring and discouraging. I have specific instructions in my auto reply, 95% of the time they don’t follow. All it asks is to text me and include some details about them. They expect me with 30-40 pictures to interact with them with no pictures, on a 3rd party platform. Then they don’t want to comply with directions to help facilitate the visit or don’t follow up to my response in addition to the auto reply.

If the support is there across the board, surely. But I feel there’s more advertising than there’s guys supporting. And of course, the variable rates and who’s willing to do more than $150/$200 is also a factor. Like I said in previous post: if there’s so much to pick from that individual escorts aren’t seeing more than 1 client a day: $200 ain’t going to cut it to cover hotel and/or travel to a city. So the price may be $400-$500-$600 per booking just to see a return. More the merrier is a myth. Less is more in some aspects. And in a country (USA) that has gone backwards, doesn’t allow escort ads freely on all “sex positive” platforms (which is a damn disguise), and continues to suppress freedom of sex worker speech; having more providers is the worse case scenario. Because who’s buying and buying at a reasonable price at this point?

So in this regard, I wanted to also mention another reason why having too many ads can be an issue. If I’m getting fewer clients than 10 years ago, I then have to charge more to be able to cover the bases. If a client wants me to travel, and host when I get there: Taking on sessions under $300 is risking breaking even or not at all, if more than 1 client isn’t showing up. $150-$200 sounds like a good number and people will sometimes ask for that amount, but it literally does nothing unless I’m willing to fit in 3-4 guys at that price and in my honest experience: many guys can’t make time in their day to all show up during the 1 or 2 nights I may set aside to host. Like said, longer sessions are preferred but many only want to do an hour, maybe 2.

It makes me wonder like, who all is really booking? RentMen has been quieter than ever. I keep the ad up for my reviews and advertising travels: but a recent browse thru my nearest major city area, there’s 50 guys advertising (17x 3 rows on Rent.Men) with the World Cup matches in town. And this is a place that has historically never really been that consistent in terms of bookings. A few years ago, that number was probably only around 10 or less on most days. So how is 500% more escorts doing any favors? It’s a fucking joke 🃏 Across the board: I feel most men browsing for sex aren’t actively seeking the paid sites as much. And in case someone thinks “the more escorts the better for the clients”, well there’s a caveat to that. If there’s dozens of options, would it make it harder to find the right one? If a client can’t keep up with all the options and just wants to contact a bunch and play on the phone, that can easily earn a bad rep down the line. And on a site with multiple options but no rates, how many times are clients having to text around and ask for prices? And without leaving the topic of prices: I understand some have their budget, but I’m having to turn down some bookings simply because they want something that is only going to break me even or less. Like I stated above, doubling up on clients when it’s already fewer to go around is more speculation than reality. So setting up an in-call session in a city an hour away from me or where hotels are running $100/$200 a night: $200-300 isn’t always going to cover the bases. And in case there’s any doubt: I’ve done the lower rates, made exceptions, etc: it doesn’t always mean more visits or more regulars. Also I want the idea that every advertiser is seeing multiple clients in a day to be understood. That is mostly the reality for masseur guys who tend to welcome higher volume but also have prices that may reel more people in. I personally don’t have the desire to see 4-5-6 dudes in one day, or cum so much that it hurts. Nor do I want to “withhold” cumming every time, because I have more clients to see that day. I’m been working towards a lower volume, more streamlined experience.

In a different regard: I know this post isn’t talking about the monetary side of it but: Often times I mention I have a 90 minute/2 hour minimum for travels. This is regardless if the client lasts for 30 minutes or less. Too often clients will say, “I probably will only last 30 minutes”. Well: I’m not charging for how long the sex lasts. By the time I commute, chat, shower, maybe have a drink (maybe not in that order) it’s easy for an hour or more to go by.

Right. I’ve often had to turn down same day appointments, because I may have already had 1 person booked in advance for that day. People think getting clients is easy peasy but it’s not always. Often it can be a lot of waiting and sorting out schedules. Some may have easier access due to rates/location and take on more bookings. But having guys coming and going is becoming harder, especially with this new age of hookup apps where people like to spend time looking for hookups, but don’t want to make much effort to make it happen.

In this regard, that is the oft assumed idea. However not everybody is high volume or even takes on multiple clients. Also there’s no promise of picking a particular time that may be fewer or more clients than another. I simply list my available hours (3 pm to midnight for outcalls or Noon to Midnight for Outcalls) but it doesn’t mean I’m seeing clients back to back during that time. That’s just a window of time I’m available during, in which I often may only schedule 1 client in a day, sometimes 2. But I’m rarely taking 3-4 or more in a day.

It can be, but I’m very experienced/took DD a few times for driving. Usually in bad weather I pass people who have wound up in the ditch, wondering if they know you can’t drive 70/80 in the snow/heavy downpour. However the bigger problem with some travel visits, so many are on limited availability. I have had to update all my ads to 24 hours/Next day notice. Even that isn’t always enough notice for every city. Some visits I haven’t made plans to visit, but I’m open to coordinate something. But if they’re only in town for 1 night, it won’t leave room to make something happen I decided anywhere more than 30 min. to an hour drive, I’m just going to start adding from $50-$100 depending on how far. That may not fully cover the expenses, but with my current rates between $250-$450 it still makes a difference. I’m just trying not to be greedy because it’s already a lot of guys out there who don’t care: don’t want to send deposits, don’t want to pay more than $200, won’t give any extra tip for traveling etc. Like Tyger said, this is an intimate business YES: and people need to recognize in order for us to perform our best we need to also be getting paid fairly without animosity. These guys have 100s and thousands of dollars in their accounts, and be trying to get by with giving us $300. I desire to earn $500/$1,000+ sometimes.

Reminds me of the Aretha song. People tend to tailor the lyrics to whatever it means to them: 🎶 ride your ass, on a pink 👅 Cadillac 🎶 lol

Right! Traveling 30 miles isn’t the type of driving I’m suggesting extra for. To me, that’s just the local area. Granted, traffic can make 30 miles take 2 hours in a place like D.C., San Francisco etc. but that can often be mitigated by planning meets after 7/8 p.m. The RentMen/Masseur sites let us post nearby travel cities up to 4 hours or 300 miles away. It’s great for getting exposure in other areas, especially if the city one lives is not active (and I hate running my ad solely in my local area, getting no hits for days after I just paid $100+ to post). It just has to be more widely and better understood, I can’t just keep doing it at my rate alone and not getting extra incentive added for the commutes.

Well the post did ask, “any horror stories?”. So while some were cyber-sexing with their tongue, it still is something to consider overall. That’s easier than someone coming on to say, “I couldn’t see in the dark, and got a mouthful of shit 🤣 “ And many “health experts” say that it’s better to rim the outside where it’s cleaner and less risk, than to go deeper in. I rather put my ☝and 🍌 deep, not my tongue 🤣 Of course and don’t get me wrong, I like to eat and get ate. I’m definitely no stranger to that 😝 It’s just all the reason more guys who are getting ate are conscious of the partner who’s going down on them. I do recall some years ago, one of my FWB/ex BFs went down to near Mexico, in Texas. I remember him saying something about him feeling off after eating some food down there, but not sick per se. Well he came to town and we “played around”, but then I got like actual sick for like 2 weeks and had to go to doctor twice. It didn’t bother him as much, but for me I wound up having to take 10 days of antibiotics. So it’s especially important if anyone is camping, sex parties, traveling overseas, etc. to double down on probiotics and gut cleansing. What may not bother 1 person may mean a trip to the doctor for another.

Well that’s the key points you made: RM sites don’t list those options. And going back to my pic above of the C&B site, notice that person has multiple rates shown (which I will say is probably more than what most of the M4M market are willing to spend). But just because they don’t give us that option, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be possible. At the end of the day, RM is just an advertising platform. They always say, “we’re not an agency so we can’t tell you what to charge/how to price yourself etc”. So it’s really up to us to figure it out. And that’s also why with minimum time lengths, it could help better offset versus just having extra for travel. But they have to be willing to do that, because if they only book an hour: Then I am going to feel compelled to add extra to the price, if my commute time is 2-3 hours. Also question for @Tygerscent: if someone reached out to you and said, “are you in available in Spokane or Yakima today/tomorrow”, how much you’d be charging for that? Would there a minimum session amount you’d ask? I know you mentioned locations that sounded like it’s within an hour away, but that’s different than what I’m referring to. The above is within the same general metro area. But something like the one below? You’re going outside of the area. Not to mention possible weather conditions/traffic etc. You wouldn’t ask extra or have a time minimum for that? The above you can probably do within a day, but if someone reaches and asks to go to Spokane, that’s likely an overnight stay: How long would you charge to do that trip, or would you go there, stay for a couple days and assume to book more clients? If it’s short notice, maybe you won’t have time to line people up. That’s where the tricky part can be. For me, I’ll normally only go to those further cities on my way to/from another area…Like when I did the drive to Seattle a few years ago: I stopped in Salt Lake and Idaho for a couple/few days each. And then I went from Seattle to San Fran and stopped in Portland and Redding California. Thankyou, glad you noticed. But I’ll tell you one thing, in my experience MOST clients never want to travel a few miles outside of their neighborhood. Let alone the next city/state over. Anytime I’ve asked a client to come to my area, it’s “too far”. I have one client who will travel from his town 2 hours away to the Capitol city where I stay when I visit, but that’s the furthest he’ll go and even that has to usually be on his timing. That’s why I said, don’t make it seem like I’m asking too much for extra $50-$100 to offset travel, when many clients won’t even go more than 1 county out of their way. Which is understandable, they don’t want to go out their comfort zone: but I don’t want to be underpaid in the process.

Son, it’s 2026. I have been in the industry for long enough to realize it takes boundaries, and a willingness to turn down some requests. Everybody isn’t going to say yes. And not everybody is worth saying yes to. And traveling for 3-4 hours and not getting an extra $50/$100, doesn’t sound like a yes always. Admit it, you wouldn’t want to do it either if it was you. And don’t lie, because I already know. I’ve spent a lot of my earlier years, traveling for sessions that weren’t even $300. However the difference then was it was a bit more possible to fit in 2-3 clients a day, from Craigslist, adam4adam, Backpage, Men4Rent, Rentboy, RentMen, HourBoy, maybe even Gay.com. So $250 seemed fine when I knew I could get several folks showing up. Now: we have like 2-3 main sites. Many cities on the site are becoming saturated with providers, or on the contrary: some of these guys don’t even know where to find us. I have to occasionally run mock ads on hookup apps in some cities, simply because I don’t get enough hits from my main paid sites. And the RentMen non logged in version just looks like another version of Grindr. People go to waste time, they have no information or understanding about prices. I have needed to create my own website and domain name, just to advocate for fair rates and to get away from the one price assumption. And you think I’m being too extra? Cowboys4Angels (for the straight women) are asking way more than $50-$100 for travel: And whether it’s “real” or not is irrelevant, but it goes to show this 1 hour rate “default” should cover everything including travel and booking hotels to host clients, needs to die and get out of gay escort vocabulary. I’m tired of putting big effort for small returns.

I can recognize that perspective, and I’ve also done the travel thing for awhile as well. However I think it’s more of personal preference that you may be comfortable doing. I’ve been out to Seattle and Oregon myself, so I know how it is. But considering gas out there tends to consistently run $5/Gal: I would definitely feel compelled. Albeit, when I was out there, I wasn’t charging extra either but I also wasn’t having to drive more than an hour away. I know often times with talking with other providers, there’s a lot of personal differences in risk/overhead discussions. Some people will say, “go take that risk”, whereas others will say “don’t sell yourself short” (not verbatim but of that difference). At end of the day it is what it is for each individual. However, I get the intimacy part: But I don’t think that’s an excuse for everyone to not have at-least some kind of agreement for travels over an hour, or over 2 hours. Also take into account, not all clients treat escorts the same. I won’t yet go down the rabbit hole of factors that involves, but I’ll give an example of something I did last month: that I ended up kinda feeling unappreciated on: I drove out to a town known for recreation/Springs. I met my client there, everything was cool. But it took over 6 hours to get to his place from where I reside. Now: I did have aspirations to take clients in the nearby major city, but he only gave me my donation for the session. He offered to have me stay the night, but then the next morning 8 a.m., he had to be on his way, and so did I. So it’s like damn, I did all that only to be inconvenienced and rushed out the next morning? What made it so bad was, he was only going to be away for a couple hours. It’s that kind of cumulative disregard for the effort that is driving me to stop doing these travels for no extra money. Sure I stayed in town and took other clients, but I stayed for 2 nights and only had 2 more clients in the area. I would have had a 3rd, but his schedule was so limited, and he wanted me to provide the accommodations to host at time too early to check in.

Hate to break up the “fun” but, although no horror stories per se: I have come across some where I’m just like, ah no…I’m not putting my mouth let alone tongue, down there. I usually do a finger test first, and if there’s any hint of 🫏, it’s a no go 🤣 Also people should keep in mind; Infections you might contract via the fecal-oral route include:23 Amoebiasis E. coli Cryptosporidiosis Shigellosis Giardiasis Helminths (intestinal worms) Hepatitis A Hepatitis B Hepatitis E Molluscum contagiosum Salmonella Bacterial and viral STIs can also be passed through rimming. Some are transmitted through the fecal-oral route, while others are passed through open sores or simple skin-to-skin contact. https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-is-rimming-5085084 But of course, don’t let it scare ya lol. However, if anyone is out eating ass on the regular or even occasional: all need to ensure to have some kind of anti-parasite extract and probiotics on hand that includes ingredients like: I personally don’t go down on everybody I meet. I’ve had situations where the next day after rimming, I’ve felt sick and had to take the above supplement and/or something in addition. If and when I do, the ass regime has to be on point 🧼 🚿

Here’s the thing: many people don’t even read the full ad to begin with. So even when I do specify certain differences, it doesn’t always get noticed. I had a client today get dismissive over my deposit asking; meanwhile it’s plain and clear in both my RentMasseur ad and website about my deposit requirements. I’ve also written to RentMasseur stating; despite having several options for massage types; there’s only incall and outcall fee. But “outcall” may only include the local metro area. Not a city in the 4 hour “nearby travel city range” away, or even other travel cities that are further than that. Also as I’ve mentioned; traveling isn’t just a convenient or “fun” thing to do. Even if I’m willing, at times it’s a necessity. Many big cities escort markets, are becoming more ran thru than a GoodWill clothing aisle. They are fucked to oblivion. I went to Orlando couple months ago: I only met new clients in other surrounding towns. It was only 1 person visiting me regularly. The World Cup in Kansas City hasn’t even brought me any new interest in the area. It’s still the same people, doing the same shit. I do like the traveling to other towns and cities but, I can’t just keep doing it for 1 hour sessions with no extra. (Like I’m sure pilots “like” to fly, but they also enjoy the $80,000+). And to do these type of trips, I’m often setting aside whole afternoons and evenings at minimum. Often a 4 hour trip, amounts to 2 days of packing/traveling/staying/and unpacking when I get home. I visit a client in Wichita occasionally: I usually have to set aside 2 days because it’s too far to go there and back in the same day. So I often end up being away from home for a night or 2 at least. That sounds great, but I hate to say it that these guys: even though they are paying, lot of them don’t have the inclination to pay much more than what the rate is. They see an outcall price, or see an in-call price and think “that’s it”. And trust me, I’ve tried to push longer sessions but it doesn’t always get agreed to. So I’m like fuck it. If people don’t want to book me for longer sessions, I’m just going to have to start adding travel/out of town pricing. I’ve raised my rates by $75-$100 since the end of Covid. That has helped cover a bit more of the overheads I incur, but I’m doing travel to some areas that are 5-6-8 hours away and not always getting extra to cover travel. Sure I can go and take on more clients to build up more funds, but even that takes more money to do. Extra money to host, book a hotel for a couple days etc. Some people may have lower prices and take on more volume but: I’m also not trying to over exert myself in the process. What torture do you imply? Also you may have been a salaried employee. Maybe not but you had an income that was fairly consistent as it sounds? So I don’t get the fuss and disagreement about a provider who is offering the convenience of traveling to clients, it’s not designed to be torture. Just recognition that “shipping and handling” does apply to us in the same way any other product would.

Right, just wish I knew before it involved a trip to Best Buy clear across town lol.

The tactic is annoying as fuck. The only way I found to avoid it: don’t post your phone number as “public”, and only do for registered users. The system will usually filter out fake bot accounts before they can actually contact you directly. The caveat to that is, less clients may be able to reach you because not everybody is signed up as a client to see phone numbers. I’ve gone back to leaving my number public because I have 2 phones to help. But it’s annoying everytime it happens. Another example of why there needs to be a better system in place. This does remind me of couple months ago when I was in Florida, I saved a client from a $2,000 scam in which the “executive chief officer” of APPLE/CHASE BANK claimed to call him, along with the FBI, saying his account was hacked and that he needed to go to Best Buy (poor company, being the target of scams lol) with his laptop to have them clear the lock. I drove him to Best Buy 20 minutes away, and he got there and they asked for 4 separate $2,000 gift cards. He tried to buy it, but Best Buy said there was a limit. When he came out and told me that (all the while on the phone with the scammers, who sounded like from India): I told him HANG UP THE PHONE NOW. And let’s go to Chase Bank to speak to someone. They were trying to get him to not tell me all the details, but had I known I would have immediately told him hangup, block the number and contact the # of the customer service for Apple and Chase. (it was one of those fake, “your account is hacked emails from “Apple” and he opening it, called them etc etc) Turns out, his account was never hacked. But he almost brought and sent $2,000 of gift cards. I took him to Chase Bank because he was recently in an accident with his regular car (But in Florida a golf cart is kinda like a car lol). He ended up thanking me with dinner, a bottle of wine and an evening session. I was like damn, sometimes we can really do good for people that they don’t know we can do.

**This is easier to understand on sites with clear rates listed (RentMasseur) versus RentMen and sites without rates listed** I had this discussion elsewhere online (more escort run), and the general consensus was that it’s okay and even encouraged to add an extra $100/$200 if a provider is traveling an hour or 2 outside of their area, to do an outcall in a different city. However, I have been traveling for quite some time (mainly because my current city isn’t profitable, and I have to travel in order to make any real money) and the usual protocol is: client sees ad in their city, sees the rate and wants to books. And there’s always an assumption by many that when they see our ad, we are either there/planning to be there/available that same day etc etc. I’ve discussed it before, why that isn’t always the case for every provider. Specifically for me because, how can I be in all those places at once? Here’s an example below of how RM displays it (dates omitted for this example) As you can see, there’s a current location followed by a list of travel cities. People will often ask, “are you in xxx city or when are you coming to xxx city”. Some of those areas may be within the same metro and only a 20-30 minute drive. Others may be in the 2-4 hour range. I like to try and incorporate a 90 minute/2 hour minimum. However most times, if I try to convey that I have an added fee to go to the city, the person may say “well don’t come all the way here just for me”. Or will say, “when you’re in town let me know”. And it’s like ummm 🤨 How is this supposed to happen if I don’t have anybody to go to the city for? I tell people who hit me up all the time in other cities, I can’t just show up and go to a city with nothing on schedule. I have to have somebody to go for. In some cities, I can go and expect 2-3 clients or more to show up. However that may not happen all in a day (and usually does not). I may have to stay for a few days. But in other areas, I may can only spare a day there, maybe even go and stay overnight. But then there’s extra hotel cost associated. Clients seem to often think we are going to a city, posting up and having guys coming and going and raking in money. I’m here to break it: That’s more of a myth and speculation than how it actually goes. The only sure fire way to ensure fair rate, is for each individual client to give the amount plus some for travel/hotel. Even if it’s $50/$100. I’m noticing many clients aren’t paying extra for travel and, I’m starting to feel that’s not fair in every situation. If I’m traveling 2+ hours to get to their location, even if it’s a city I’m passing thru/open to visit: wouldn’t it seem fair to have an extra courtesy added to it? Or does it come off greedy? I don’t think it’s greedy. Some people have to better consider the effort it takes to go to these “nearby travel cities”. But it seems hard to convey to clients that our “rate” is money for the session, not necessarily covering for extra commutes. Many times they may only want to book an hour, which may be up to $350/400 for many. That’s a decent amount of money to pocket, but if hotel/gas/etc is not being covered: the amount pocketed can end up being much less than that. I think it’s just time to start adding an extra amount to longer travel if it’s more than an hour away. Some expect same day visits also. I want to consider having an extra $50 courtesy for same day bookings. This is why I like so much extended/overnight sessions. $1,000+ is easy to cover most all possible incall/outcall expenses incurred. But regardless, it’s becoming harder having to only work with my rate and not getting paid for travel time when I been traveling nearly every other week lately. At the same time, I understand a lot of the providers out there tend to work in the metro, and so many ads often push being “available now”. There seems to be an expected default method of working, that I feel doesn’t account for providers like myself who may have to travel for majority of their income/bookings.

Certain areas are cheaper or about the same in summer. I know in South Florida there’s the “low season” from June to October. That’s when the seasonals go back to the northeast/Midwest from the humidity and hurricanes. However other places up north can tend to be higher. Or somewhere like Orlando with year round tourists, seems like July thru full is about the best times. I try to get around it though by not booking hotels Friday and Saturday nights as those are most expensive. Plus most clients tend to book during the week it seems in many areas. Although I find major areas like San Francisco and Washington, D.C. get more hits on the weekends. Probably b/c traffic during the week is so oppressive lol.

Let’s also not forget the clients who do the same thing to providers also on a regular basis. Like this one client who been trying to schedule but has been so unreliable and full of shit. What makes so bad is he did show up once before, but that’s the problem sometimes: these guys show up once but then turn into an asshole: case in point from this message: And it’s these same types who don’t want to send a deposit, yet they can’t be reliable to show up in the first place. Like he was already playing on my Grindr previously. I told him now don’t contact me again if you can’t text me directly. And then going to try and gaslight me into thinking it’s not him who’s full of shit at this point. He just fucking cancelled today saying his schedule got mixed up and that (no lie) his buddy wants to hookup again smh 🤦🏽‍♂️ then you going to come around and say I was hard to pin down? So I can probably see why some escorts would cancel a trip. Maybe out of spite. I know I don’t like dealing with this kind of stupidity while already having overheads to deal with. But jokes on him because I already had 2 other clients show up, and a 3rd one on the way. I wish they would take their stupid games somewhere else, far away from escort/masseur sites. Like a discussion happening on another site. Like how they trying to have sex with AND get on our bad side at the same time 🤦🏽‍♂️

I’m laughing at this comparison (although I get how you mean). Having been to both Vegas and Omaha multiple times: they are nothing alike lol. For one, Vegas Ads are consistently thick with dozens of providers year around. Omaha, does not. Vegas also attracts tourists from all around, whereas Omaha is more like the regional tourists from Iowa/the Dakotas, etc. Believe it or not, I think Omaha is a better example of a city than Vegas lol. However the weather in Omaha gets so crazy, between giant hail storms and blizzards: Not enough gays with money find it an attractive resort location. However Omaha isn’t the wasteland you’d think it is. It just seems that way in comparison to the more crowded markets. The reality is, a lot of those “in demand/buyer’s market” gay cities like Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Nashville, Dallas, Chicago, Las Vegas, California (although Cali is technically a country of its own): all those cities are so ran thru, it’s hard to make any fast money in those places unless you lucky to be able to stay there long enough to build regulars or a specific “sugar” guy. I’ve gone to so many of those cities and waited for days on end for a booking, whereas I can go to somewhere like Omaha and have my time accounted for a couple days. At not nearly the cost of some of the other cities I can’t speak for Vegas specifically or anyone else who tours there: but for me I do the same, advertising in multiple cities. RentMen does allow up to 12 travel locations on the new platform version. 6 cities “nearby” (a 200-300 mile range) and 6 that one can put travel dates for. Equals 13 if include the current location. I definitely take full advantage of that. The issue I see is, too many clients see the ads and assume it means instant availability. Or people expect us to have travel plans before we’ve even been able to finance it. I actually do try to 99% of time visit all the cities I advertise in. But in some cases, the commute to get there is too far and not as many want to book in advance like it used to be. Even if I get 5 clients hitting me up asking if I’m available “today”, that doesn’t help if I’m trying to plan the city 2-3 weeks from now and it’s 1,000 miles away. I tried that with Buffalo, and not enough were willing to schedule ahead, so I had to bin the trip a couple times. Maybe this year I’ll make it work finally. Something with the escort travel system needs to change. I’ve had to say everything from “dates in my ad are openings/flexible” to “all travel cities require confirmed clients”, but few really seem to notice or understand it. I was just talking to a client today who: I been suggesting he book me a day in advance. However he was only able to do same day appointments a few hours in advance. We finally got to meet but, I was running like an hour behind the time I was aiming for. Getting ready can suck up so much time. Some will reach out less than 24 hours notice in some cities, and expect on time with a limited window. It’s not always possible. I tried to reschedule one guy who wanted to meet basically “before 3 p.m. the next day” in a city that was 5.5 hours away from me. Although I was planning the city anyway for other requests, hotels may or may not allow check in before 3 p.m. Many are also charging $25-$50 early check in fees. I also didn’t want to have to leave at night to get there early, because I’m hating driving more than a couple hours in the dark anymore. Dude gets pissed off at me, and I’m like dude: my ad states what my in-call hours are. Sometimes I can flex it, other times it’s too much trouble to make happen if they can’t be flexible. It just makes the whole touring/travel thing a headache sometimes. That’s why nowadays I mainly only go to cities where I know I have friends, crushes, or specific clients as main purpose. Then I can incorporate other bookings once I’m there. I don’t like playing the gamble game and thinking if I spend $XXX amount on hotels for 2-3 days, I can recoup that money back AND make a profit. Because it doesn’t always happen, and it may require staying longer than 2-3 days to do it. I did a trip to San Diego couple years back, I had to stay for a week before I even booked my first two clients. I only managed to stay because I had friend’s place to stay: but in the past I’ve gone to cities and left within a day or 2 if there’s nothing but flakes and no money coming in.

Comparing an escort rate over $300 to the cost of marriage and divorce?? Even $1,000 an hour wouldn’t put a dent in the actual costs that would involved 🤣 It is true. I seen a client the other day who had an amount I won’t even mention in his account, that he was paying me from. Not that it’s my business or comparing to anyone else: But the thing some people don’t understand is: we’re advertising to MANY income brackets. Why make $300 a universal price, when some people may have $100,000 or MORE, at their disposal? I had one guy pay me $800 to reimburse for him having to cancel a session. People here would drag a person to hell over how that’s totally unjustified. However when you say “better educated” it seems like you’re insinuating (maybe not intentionally) that education comes in the form of “getting a better priced provider”. I’ll comment on that in a sec: Exactly. Some clients seem to not understand how hotels work. Idk why some don’t, but for anyone who doesn’t: We don’t get 24 hours of usage. Early check in/late check out has been cut back a lot at many hotels unless you’re a top tier member. So one can pay X amount for a room, and still not even be able to have enough time to book enough clients unless they are willing to shell out additional funds the next morning. So many times for me, I’m only booking 1 to 2 clients per hotel “night” of payment How much is an uber? I don’t use uber but: recently I did a trip the other month and I had $850 car repair bill during the visit. Fortunately one of my good “sponsors” was able to make a deal: but still, a few bucks Uber is small in comparison. Same for when some don’t understand why I have a $400 minimum when I travel to cities. All that wear and tear may not show up until down the line, and guess who has to pay for it when it comes up? This is also why I have mostly retired big city traveling. I will advertise remotely or visit them when I have other plans, but I’m just no longer taking the risks to travel to big cities for now. I have a trip to Los Angeles coming up but I’m ensuring weeks of advertising and definitive bunking plans. And with any other city: I’m hosting by appointment only. Too many clients see Ads and think we’re just hosting by default. Where is that money supposed to magically come from, other clients? Then some don’t want to pay deposits either so: I’m expected to take money I made from another client, to fund a time slot for the next client? That USED to work back when there were a few sites like CL/Men4rent/Rentboy/Backpage: But now there’s only a couple main sites, and the hookup apps are so hit or miss or the clients looking don’t want to pay enough to begin with. I believe some of the guys who are doing big cities, might have corporate or other functions to make that happen: but straight freelancing, it’s too many other providers and the costs associated to visit them is too much. Exactly! Don’t forget to add: home/car repairs (because we’re often expected to magically be able to host or travel on a moments notice), sick days, hotel in-calls etc etc. And let’s not talk about how some clients get so freaked out over an escort staying at a sketchy incall or hotel lol. But you wanted to only pay $$$ max right? So I need to budget accordingly. I’m not about to fuck solely to cover the cost of lodging 🤣 Not just in NYC exclusively, even the “up and coming/trying to revive” metropolitan areas. I reside in Missouri and both Kansas City and St. Louis: typically referred to as “cheaper” cities have become high priced and…there’s hardly any business anymore especially on RentMen. Nobody is booking unless you have $150 or $200 as a price: which people don’t understand means seeing a lot of other men to add up to a reasonable profit. So don’t complain about soft dick or not able to cum, if looking in that range. You don’t get, what you don’t pay for 🤷🏾‍♂️ But all these other dudes are either flakes or have a problem with paying to begin with. So it’s actually created a situation where I do have to charge more, just to get enough from the advertising. People expect me to charge $200 or LESS: something that I would have maybe 10 years ago, and somehow still be able to maintain: All in all:

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with this question: but it’s definitely going to make a difference what the answer is: And it’s a good thing it’s come up because you’ll be surprised how often guys online will say, “I don’t get fucked by bottoms” even if “vers” is in the Top’s profile. Though I understand the “premise” behind the fantasy, I’m not going to necessarily co-sign on the belief of it being a valid assumption. I’ve had many a bottom client compliment my ass and in some rare cases…take it to another level. I’ve also seen “White Dom” guys be the target of such fantasies, usually by confused men of color (including but not limited to) who are obsessed with the idea of an exclusively White (and often times “straight/married) Top. My experience proves differently lol

This is pretty fairly said. I can’t count how many “same day” appointments I get or even the day prior but still not 24 hours notice. Not to mention, so many clients see our ads travel cities and assume we are there and available that day. Even if my ad is up in an area, it’s usually in advance. I’m not always looking for someone to ask me to meet “tonight”. Sometimes I just need to gather interest and figure out what kind of plans I can either come up with in an area. They think we all just “show up” just because the ad is up. I’ve encountered such things before but I think often the #1 problem that even clients need to start realizing: a lot of clients just aren’t very available. And it’s not always fair to expect the escort to “be there and be square” with 15 minutes grace period. Yes…a stellar planning escort can make each appointment on time, but it’s all often last minute and not “routine” commutes. I allow myself both client sex and regular sex. Most “successful regular sex” with non-client men tends to happen in the evening or late night: it’s often the times that single, professional, 20s-40s aged men are out meeting guys on apps or a bar. In contrast: many clients often have “odd” hours they want to meet. Some want to meet in the middle of the “work day”. Or mid-morning. Sometimes that doesn’t allow time to travel or finish up the day’s plans. And evenings are also sometimes booked as well. I’ve decided I need to start sticking to set booking hours: which for me means incalls with me hosting needs to be after 3, and hosting after noon. It all ties into the check in/check out times of hotels as well. I don’t have the luxury to host from home as much anymore for the time being. So I have to operate on a schedule that doesn’t conflict with my mornings or travel time to the next destination. In my opinion: I believe the hookup app culture and not so distance social media culture, is to blame. It seems like every man out here is juggling multiple options. They have clients, they have fuck buds, and hookup app possibilities: all going in in the same night. I have seen my friends, I even seen clients: just constantly on a mission to cruise on these apps. I’ve been with clients and hear the dreaded Super Mario brother’s type of sound coming from their phone…which likely sounds like another message 🤣 People think having endless options is a good thing. But in the Hookup lifestyle, it just leads to a whole lot of unreliability and people playing games. I had to deal with it last night from someone (non client) I thought was going to come over to my hotel: which I was hoping to make use for considering I only booked it for 1 night (potential fuck boy in blue box, me in grey box) *EDIT: Screen shots are not permitted