Jamie21

Oh you don’t need to douche much for a prostate massage (if at all). When giving such a massage you don’t go in very deep - just thumb depth, so you only need a little freshening up with a small bulb douche. Personally I never use gloves when giving a prostate massage because I think it’s too ‘clinical’ and doesn’t feel nice for me or my client. It’s preferable if he’s clean of course but sometimes that’s not the case and if so one just cleans off and carries on. I avoid rimming if the thumb or finger comes out messy though! Sometimes I use a prostate massage toy which is a bit girthier than my thumb or finger once the client has got used to fingers as the toy feels a bit more substantial.

When I do out calls to clients hotel they are sometimes naked or in the hotel gown when they open the door. One guy was actually in the shower as I knocked, he had the door slightly open and he called out “come in, it’s open” so in I went. He invited me to join him in there, so I did. Nice way to begin.

Interesting chat. Mostly clients like a bit of chat but also affectionate touch as soon as they arrive. It depends on if they are regular or not. Regulars the kissing can start at the door. One client has his cock out as I open the door…he’s keen to maximise value for money.

Definitely repeat long term visits. That’s how you build a good base. I’ve loads of repeat clients. You get to know what they like, it’s good to see them grow more confidence and more comfortable and the sessions get better. I’ve been taken to dinners / clubs occasionally and whilst it’s interesting to visit some of these places and is a pleasant experience I’m not that bothered to go. Much prefer the client comes back. It’s a clearer confirmation that the service is good.

If that’s what you want, ask him whether he’s a masseur or escort. No guy will be upset at being asked that question.

Seems they don’t mind. It’s business…

I think the difference is because when kissing you are both equal. Other acts like top or bottom one person is in a more dominant position. For many guys sex is about power; being submissive or dominant and that’s the dynamic that gets them going. With kissing there’s no dominant person, both are equal. That’s a different kind of sexual intimacy to the power dynamic of top / bottom sexual intimacy. I think that’s why kissing is seen by some as too much. Personally I find it difficult not to kiss if the session is progressing well. I’m slightly disappointed when clients decline to kiss….something seems missing. We still have a sexy time but kissing just makes a big difference.

Anyway, what’s in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Masseur / Provider / Escort in this place doesn’t matter. I like this place and could willingly lose my time in it.

Had there been some kind of miscommunication and he was expecting to bottom?? 😂. I think you are right to try to play around it. I’ve been in situations where for whatever reason I wasn’t hard and if the client didn’t make an issue of it and we ‘played around it’ then so it transpired that I did get hard. Once it becomes ‘a problem’ then there’s virtually no chance of getting hard. A recent massage client had been playing with me most of the massage and I’d been hard but when it came to the point for him to turn over I was kind of semi. This wasn’t a situation where the client was expecting me to fuck him (indeed he’d asked that nothing go inside him before we started) but he took my hardness as an indicator of whether I was into him. Sometimes with guys I get ‘top’ vibes off I will straddle him on the table so he can play with me while I wank him behind my back and rub his cock on my hole. This client seemed to like that but he said to me as he wanked me while I straddled him ‘you’re not very hard’. Of course that made me anxious and wasn’t conducive to me getting harder!! Then he asked me if I was faking it 😂. By now I knew what I was dealing with so I just said to him if he kept wanking me like that I’d probably cum. He wasn’t very good but the combination of his hand and feeling his cock brushing my hole has got me close to cuming. I worked his cock behind my back, got him close and then I shot over his chest which surprised him and then I felt him shoot his load too. As I was cleaning him up he said again ‘ you weren’t very hard I thought you were faking it’ to which I replied ‘you can’t fake that’ pointing at my load on his chest. I reflected afterwards that the guy was probably straight (there were other signs) and inexperienced with guys. He was my fourth client of the day. Sometimes clients don’t appreciate that.

Pineapple. Eat that.

X is appalling. I only use it for posting thirst traps 😂. It’s badly managed.

Oh! Is it that bad?

That’s interesting you say it @nomad. I’ve browsed Reddit and am aware of it but haven’t engaged much with it. I’ve struggled with the navigation (I know that’s just a lack of familiarity thing) plus I don’t really want more platforms to manage! My editor / social media manager has suggested using it - mainly to drive subscribers to the Onlyfans and Justforfans rather than to find in person clients. I’ve left it to him to investigate that further. The challenge is the more platforms you have the more time it takes, not only to upload content but also to engage with followers etc. I pay my guy to do the uploading of content etc but I respond to messages on there myself so it’s definitely more work.

X is good for promoting but has become less effective in the past few years as the platform has become less usable. It shadow bans profiles. You need to spread your advertising around to avoid being over reliant on one platform just in case it takes a dislike to you and deletes or restricts your profile. I have an X page, Bluesky (better than X but smaller reach at present), instagram, RentMasseur (and some other advertising platforms but I only pay for the RM platform), Pornhub, onlyfans and Justforfans, and I contribute on platforms such as this. If you’re sufficiently active clients will find you.

I get guys who subscribe to my OF booking a session with me, and guys who are clients then subbing to my OF. It’s definitely a cross over. Just be careful not to discuss paid sex work on the onlyfans platform because that’s not allowed. I get a few subscribers who ask and I cannot engage with them via that platform. The discussion has to happen elsewhere.

I could copy airlines and use a demand led model, pricing higher when it’s busy, or just add $100 to my rate to capture higher revenue. But I don’t think it would work. My prices are published, I don’t have a system managing demand pricing, nor would my clients appreciate the rate changing all the time. It’s just not feasible for a one man band. Also if I did put the rate at $400 (when I’d be happy to accept $300) the expectation of getting the higher rate would quickly establish itself as my perception of my value.

Ha ha this reminds me of a client of mine who loves me talking all through the session. It’s sex talk though, not random ramblings. He likes me to describe what I’m going to do to him, and to compliment his body and reactions. If he books me with another guy then he likes me to blindfold him and then to hear me and the other guy fuck each other while I describe it. Never underestimate the power of the spoken word!

From the sex worker’s perspective…it certainly feels like it.

You didn’t negotiate though did you. So I agree it isn’t negotiating. He values his time at $260, you didn’t, and you didn’t ask him for a discount. If you had asked for a discount then the affordability issue arises.

Ah ok. I get clients saying it’s too expensive and I just reply with ‘ok good luck’ and leave it at that. I’m sure some of them hope I’ll come back like your guy did but I think that’s a mistake on his part. His rate is the value he puts on his service. In this business that’s a very personal value because effectively you are selling yourself. So by reducing his rate, in response to your saying he’s too expensive, he’s effectively selling himself for less than he thinks he’s worth. Is that a good start point for a pleasurable experience? Will he be meeting you with a desire to please or will he be slightly resentful that you knocked him down, even if he responded to your answer on his rate with a reduction? Negotiating the rate is never good in my view. My approach is to never ever discount. It reduces your value, it makes the client think less of you and it leaves no one satisfied because the client gets a sub par experience. These services aren’t cheap, it’s usually decent amounts $300 upwards. If you’re looking for say $50 off are you really not able to afford the $300? I’m sure that most of the time the clients seeking a discount can afford the full price but they just like the idea of getting a ‘deal’ because it puts them one up on the guy they’re hiring and on all the other clients. It’s just a game.

Never negotiate his rate. It sets the interaction off on the wrong foot. If you weren’t prepared to pay his rate you should just walk away: ‘thanks but that’s not in my budget’. I’m guessing he accepted your counter offer reluctantly probably because he had nothing else (maybe it was a quiet day). But he’s not going to be doing it with much enthusiasm, he already knows you don’t think he’s worth what he quoted you. Then he’s trying it on with you to see if you’ll deliver his stuff because he doesn’t value you. It cuts both ways.

Never liked the term ‘provider’. Something feels weird about it. It’s so vague; providing what? Lunch? I think masseur and escort or the universal ‘sex worker’ are much more appropriate. Maybe the ‘provider’ term is vague because those hiring like it suitably indirect, given hiring for sexual services is of dubious legality in some jurisdictions.

Isn’t ’choke on it bitch’ a quote attributed to Churchill? Possibly to Lady Astor? I shall have to look it up….

I guess for me it would depend if the bedside lamp was turned on or not…

Nothing needed. If it’s clear that the client is having a great time then that’s all that’s needed for validation.