Jamie21

It’s like wearing loose fit jeans rather than skinny jeans. Yes they fill the inside with hormones that make you want to buy them dinner, new clothes and undertake DIY tasks. Best to stick to using the ass.

Fortunately not. Also her husband’s cock was in my mouth for part of the time so I couldn’t speak.

Let me peer review your study @Lucky. I’m bi and hung so I feel qualified to add an opinion. I was fucking a clients pussy recently (while her husband watched - which isn’t relevant to the study but I thought I’d add it for context) and I began thinking mid fuck that indeed her pussy was a lot looser than the tight holes of guys I’d fucked recently. It was more reminiscent of the kind of hole on a sub bottom who’s taken a few large cocks already. At the time I was thinking ‘this isn’t going to get me off’ which was fine because she didn’t want me to shoot inside. Afterwards I reflected that whilst some holes are too tight and some too loose there’s a ‘Goldilocks’ zone where the hole is just right.

Around £150 for an hour sensual massage is about par for London. I suspect the £90 rate was for therapeutic massage with no HE? You should expect to pay at least £120 for an hour sensual massage in London. Anything less and it’s likely he’s not any good; no table, uses baby oil, rub and tug technique. That kind of thing.

It’s where you go out but he takes ages to get ready, he disagrees with you on the type of restaurant, flirts with the waiter, spends a lot of time on his phone, doesn’t notice that you’re wearing a new top (or comment on it) and then gets drunk at the club, sucks off one of your friends in the toilets and then disappears for 3 hours with one of the go go dancers. Later that evening at home in bed he tries to fuck you but falls asleep part way through. Next morning he denies everything and kisses you so tenderly you end up having sex on the kitchen table. Oh wait no….you mean you’re hiring a bf experience? That can mean anything you like (the above if it’s your thing) or something like that except a little more attentive and giving. I did one recently for a client where they wanted to meet for drinks in the bar of their hotel, we flirt, kiss etc then go to their room, bath together with more drinks (I had the tap end) then a massage and play on the bed. It could also involve going out to a club or restaurant, basically you decide what you’d like. He will plan it and deliver.

I can’t comment on the rate because I work in a different market. I’d recommend avoiding trying to negotiate the rate. I don’t like clients trying to negotiate me down tbh. As for filming I’m ok with clients asking to film a small part of their session but I’m not ok to film the whole session because it’s too much of a distraction. You could ask him and see. It wouldn’t offend.

Good luck. Experienced guys will guide you.

I’d suggest first finding a vers daddy type who appeals to you. I say vers because he needs to understand a top mindset. Then engage him in discussion about what you want. If he’s a good provider he’ll understand what you’re looking for. I find many clients don’t exactly know what they’re looking for - they can’t articulate it and often they don’t know it fully. It takes a bit of time (a few sessions) and some flexibility from me to help them. I’ve had guys change their minds on what role they think they are after a few sessions. It’s good to avoid being rigidly in a box.

Only about time wasters and troublemakers. It’s based on the phone number. There’s no site where we rate and comment on clients or bitch about them. That’s kind of pointless. I discuss a few mutual clients with other masseurs who I’m friends with but that’s just work talk.

I’ve a few clients who are hard before they get on the table. It’s the anticipation. One guy lets me deal with it by sucking him off…so it’s a happy start. He’s then able to relax and enjoy the massage and get hard again for a happy ending too. I call it a happy sandwich style massage.

We’re all intrigued to hear how it goes (well, I am at least!) so please report back. The longest session I’ve done is at parties, of about 6 hours but it wasn’t constant sex and wasn’t playing just one role. There was some talking, eating (nibbles) and drinking interspersed with sex. It’s good to take natural breaks and of course after I’d cum I wanted to take a break before going back to it so that kind of forces a rest. I can’t imagine bottoming solidly for that long, it actually sounds quite uncomfortable. I know some guys use numbing cream to help them bottom more easily and for longer.

I confirm my rate with the client when they book. I send a message to confirm time, duration, date, rate, address and any instructions. Then I send a reminder day before and if he’s new I confirm again on the day with a ‘see you later!’ message. It saves a lot of misunderstandings.

Could be lots of reasons he’s not replied, I’d be wary to assume it’s because you’re less attractive than previously. I think it’s bad of him not to reply to you even with an excuse if he doesn’t want your custom. Unless he’s forgotten it’s really no excuse for not sending a ‘sorry I’m fully booked’ message or something. If this is genuinely how he behaves towards someone who has been a good client is he really worth seeing again? It’s your opportunity to find a new guy who will value your business and you.

Definitely. Some people are pretty dim (obviously none of my clients…). My website clearly states I’m in London, but I get ‘where are you based?’ or worse ‘I’m on 23rd and 4th downtown are you available for an outcall?’ …yes, if you pay the flight costs and my outcall rate for 1000 mile of travel… Or even worse than location misunderstanding…some clients think I’m female! Maybe my name is gender neutral but surely they can see my pics and a massive cock between my legs? When I say ‘I’m a guy’ they get quite upset, as if I’ve accused them of being gay. No…I accused you of being thick. You’re not lucky enough to be gay. Others ask about sex work services via messaging my Onlyfans or via my Instagram. I try to direct them to a more appropriate medium to discuss such things but they don’t get the hints. Don’t they realise it’s strictly not allowed to discuss paid sexual services on those sites. What part of ‘please contact me via the number on my Linktree’ is unclear? And why can’t they find the Linktree or the website link when it’s clearly there on my insta profile? In some ways these seemingly small barriers to access serve to prevent the stupid or the lazy from actually booking. Maybe that’s not such a bad thing?

You spelled cock wrong.

I’ve seen a client who had large Labrador which was very close to the client (or the client was close to the Labrador?). It was a puppy and very playful. Every time I saw the client (at his place) the dog would start outside the bedroom with the door closed, and at first it would behave but after half hour or so it would start to cry, then scratch at the door. Then it would push at the door and come in (because the client left the door slightly open so he could call the dog to calm it down…which obviously didn’t work..). My sessions with the client were massage first on the table then sex on the bed. The dog would always come in during the massage, bounce around for a bit saying hello then settle down under the table. When the client moved to the bed the dog would watch us and walk around the bed waiting to be asked to jump up. He knew he wasn’t allowed on the bed but because the client was so indulging of him eventually the dog would jump up and join us. First time it happened I worried that when I fucked the client the dog might mistake the action for some kind of fight and protect him but fortunately it didn’t seem interested. He just lay there breathing heavily (the dog that is). Worst part was afterwards when the dog licked cum off my leg. I found it easier to just let the client have the dog with him rather than keep it outside because it calmed down both the client and the dog. It’s very difficult to relax a client and get him in the mood if he’s constantly calling out to a dog to calm down or having to go and check the dog isn’t destroying the place. Just try not to let it get a taste for cum.

Try not to worry about these things. They’re not your problem. As others have said, focus on being a good client when you hire. That will endear you to him and as long as you hire the right guy you’ll have a great experience. However, if you really want answers here’s mine, from a provider’s perspective. Performing?: Don’t assume that attraction has to be physical (this is linked to the ‘be a good client request’). Attraction can be to any personal attribute or even to a situation. One can tell oneself a story or go to a past situation in one’s memory. Of course it doesn’t always work. Every provider has experienced times when they couldn’t perform. That’s normal and usually nothing to do with the client. Remember that: nothing to do with the client. Love the job?: Yes, it’s not an easy job to do for any length of time if you don’t love it. So hire experienced guys not newbies. They love meeting good clients. Note the ‘good’ clients bit. Vet clients?: Yes, but subtly, via pricing and availability. I don’t ask for pics but a potential client starting their message with ‘hey’, sending an ‘available now?’ message at any time or especially after 10pm at night, sending a cock pic, asking for a discount or generally behaving sketchily will never get booked regardless of what he looks like or promises. So in that sense all the assholes are vetted out. This again links to the ‘be a good client’ point. So like I said, don’t worry about the provider’s job in the transaction, focus on yours and it will be fine.

If my client has initiated the ‘companionship’ session then it’s my normal rate. These sessions can sometimes have scope creep. It starts as ‘let’s have dinner and watch a film, what’s your rate?’ but during the film he suggests ‘come to my room for drinks’ and then it ends up with something more and it’s awkward to decline or to upsell in the moment. Also of course my time is my time and I could be seeing another client at full rate so why would I charge a lot less to the ‘companionship’ client for the same time? So it’s the normal rate, perhaps slightly discounted because these sessions usually last a bit longer. However if the time with the client was initiated by me, as in say after the paid session I like his company and I say ‘let’s go for a drink’ or he invites me out and I like him and want to go then it’s no charge because I’ve crossed the line from professional relationship to social relationship. Once that line is crossed though he’s never a paying client again. You can’t dip in and out.

If you book a masseur that does sensual then he’ll know. In the US I understand you’ve got to be careful about asking for (and giving) sexual services so it will be implied. Probably nothing will be put in writing but when you meet him you can ask. Guys who want to make it sound less blunt sometimes ask me about ‘a release’ or the massage ‘reaching a climax’. Don’t worry, pick the right kind of masseur and he will know.

Avoid those who want pics. Those guys are more likely doing the job as part of their sex life. It’ll probably be about them. The masseur might want some basic info such as what you want out of it and any health issues but should need nothing else. All I ask for when clients book is a first name. Find someone who you feel comfortable with. Look for signs of a professional approach: a website, decent pics, a timely response to your enquiry, good reviews, experience…all those things are signs he takes the work seriously. Be clear with him about what you want, but avoid being too prescriptive- let him guide you. Go for someone who offers sensual or erotic massage if you want it to be intimate and communicate clearly about what you’d like because people have different understandings about this kind of massage. As for tipping, I’m in the UK so the expectation here differs, most of my clients don’t tip because it’s just not done here. I understand it’s different in the US.

Seems like he has a fragile ego. You paid his rate, were a regular good client. What does he expect? You to be faithful? Be grateful? It seems strange behaviour if he’s an experienced provider. We all know that clients shop around and see other guys. I talk with at least half a dozen other masseurs and I know that clients who come to me also go to them. I have a good idea what those guys charge too because I’m friends with them. None of us mind that clients shop around. It’s really not a competitive industry, it’s actually very cooperative. I’ll warn them about difficult clients and they do same for me. I’ll also refer clients if I’m busy, and they refer to me. I think your guy may have got the wrong impression of your ‘relationship’. You might be best to gently remind him that you’re his customer and that he is free to decide what the rate is and you are free to decide whether to buy. If he doesn’t understand that it’s probably best to avoid him because he seems a bit high maintenance.

Go ahead with it and tell him your preparation hasn’t been fully successful. Most guys won’t mind and will have all sorts of other things you can do together that are fun if you really don’t feel comfortable to bottom. Decent providers will understand and may be ok to proceed with caution so that you can bottom anyway. Or at least you could ask him to go in and stay in until he (or you) finishes. That’s usually ok. I find it’s more difficult to keep changing positions and stop and start when the issues with mess can be a problem. If you stay in to the end it’s fine. I’ve seen clients who tell me they might not be ready and I say to them ‘I’m ok to try if you want to’. Let’s be clear; anyone who’s experienced at gay sex will have come across accidents sometimes. It’s an occupational hazard. I just clean up and carry on usually if he wants to, otherwise we do other stuff. No big deal. No one should make you feel bad if you’re not totally clean.

I had a client keep me in a separate room (in a two bedroom apartment in the hotel) on a vacation trip one time! It was fine, he’d visit my room when he wanted to play. He said he slept better alone and he snored so he didn’t want to keep me awake unless it was for fun. Very considerate.

I agree. I’m talking about the guys who object to rates without trying the service.