Jamie21

20% retention rate isn’t bad. You’ve only been going a year, needs longer. It takes ages to build a regular client base. You say you use a script post session. I wouldn’t do that. A script feels like a hard sell. Have a few messages you’d like to get over but do it in a personal way that is tuned towards the client. You need to get to know them at a more personal level. My guess is they feel ‘sold to’ and massage (whatever the style) is a very personal one to one service. Make it so they feel you see them as a whole person not another client. Contact them after the session to see how the session improved their pain (tell them you’ll do a follow up call in a week or so and are they ok with that?). You’ll get re bookings on those calls (but don’t force it). Also I think offering a one hour session is a good idea. People want to try you out before committing to a longer session. You could do the 1 hour and then offer the next 90m at a reduced rate. That reduces the barrier of the unknown for them and gives them the full experience at a reduced cost. Once you build in them the habit of coming back they’ll come back more. Business courses aren’t the place to learn this stuff. Learn it by doing. Ask the 20% of customers who do come back why they do so. Ask all your customers how they found you and what made them book. Listen to your customers. The answers are there , not in a business course. That would be a waste of money and time. Basically the number one rule is know who your customer is, understand what they want, and give it to them in a way that is satisfying but leaves space for more. In everything think of your customer first. You don’t go wrong if you think about who they are and what they want. Oh and whilst you’ll get great advice on business on here from successful providers (☺️) your client base is unlikely to be on here….

Oh no! This topic again. He can charge whatever he thinks he’s worth. It’s entirely up to him and his definition of his value. You don’t have to pay it. You might want to hire him but if you don’t want to pay his rate too bad! You can’t afford him. Buy a cheaper guy and see how good he is. If you think it’s an easy overpaid job why not set up yourself? See how easy it is. What price would you put on yourself for an hour of doing escort work (don’t forget to add in all the hidden costs - time spent trying to look good, being available 24/7, handling time wasters, advertising, paying for the benefits that employees get as part of their job, taking risks with your sexual health….). Now his rate doesn’t seem so unreasonable does it…

Many guys are into feet. He’s just showing his assets. We all know RentMasseur guys are offering THAT kind of massage. That’s why I advertise on there 🙂

I’m happy to answer clients questions about my personal life but there’s some aspects I’d keep private. I share with them about my work, my day to day life and what kind of things I like. As a provider I think it’s important to be able to chat in a relaxed way with clients. It’s often after the sex when you’re just laying there naked and covered in bodily fluids that you can have really interesting conversations. It makes the session more about connection and intimacy than about just having sex.

I wonder how many of the guys who are critical of bareback sex because of the health risks are at the same time taking big risks with their health by smoking, drinking alcohol or having a bad diet / no exercise resulting in them being overweight? We all make choices but it seems to me that those being critical of those of us who do bareback sex are taking a moralistic approach yet seem to be hiding that behind health arguments.

Depends how many…

I looked at his profile. Rarely will a self proclaimed straight therapeutic masseur be able to deliver a proper sensual massage to a guy (or to a female). They need to forget 80% of what they learn about giving a therapeutic massage to be able to give a sensual massage. The pace, intensity, focus and whole atmosphere is different. Usually someone who converts from therapeutic to sensual just doesn’t get it. The sensual massage is disjointed and is a therapeutic massage with a perfunctory handjob at the end. Total rubbish.

I think I’d freak out if you suddenly took them out before going down on me! Or if when I pulled my cock out of your mouth it came with your dentures around it (could that happen??). Many strange things have happened to me with clients over the years. I once had a guy remove his false leg (above the knee) before he got on the massage table. He’d said nothing about it during booking or pre massage chat. Me : ‘Any injuries or things I should be aware of?’ Him: thinks for a second ‘No’. … Then he undresses and removes the leg and puts it with his clothes on the chair and lays on the table as instructed. Nothing said. So I didn’t say anything either and we both proceeded to pretend everything was normal, except I had one fewer legs to massage. Interestingly he still spread his leg(s) to indicate his hole needed attention so that must be a Pavlovian response to certain stimuli… However, back to blow jobs…some clients are poor / average at blow jobs. Obviously there’s no such thing as a bad blow job, they’re all welcome but some could be better. The reason is usually because of teeth so if you pre warmed me that the teeth come out before giving a bj I’d be totally fine with it because it sounds like it would be a delightful experience.

I wouldn’t ask a licensed massage therapist!! But if he’s offering sensual or erotic massage (easy to identify) then simply ask for it. Guys that do this kind of work aren’t going to be offended! The only reason he might decline is that sometimes once a client has cum he suddenly loses interest (or all the guilt kicks in) and he wants to end the session. Of course if he’s had a happy start and then wants to end the session after 10 minutes the provider will be concerned that the client might not pay the full fee. So if you do ask for a happy start, make it clear that you’re staying the whole session after the climax or that you’ll pay the full fee regardless. If you want to signal your appetite for a happy start non verbally a good way of doing it is to be hard as you undress. I’ve seen that and have asked the client if he’d like me to deal with it before we start? I’m rarely refused 😉

For a few clients I do a happy ‘book end’. They’re extra horny when they turn up, and it’s difficult to restrain themselves for the whole session so I give them a bj at the start, before they get on the table. I get a nice mouthful of cum to give me energy and they get a release so they can properly relax on the table and enjoy the massage. As the intensity builds they can then shoot again at the end. It’s popular for the 2 hour sessions.

It’s unfortunate but so many potential clients are just fishing for pics or sex chat with no or little intention to book. It makes one wary of engaging in too much back and forth to build a rapport. Plus there’s the time issue, how much time am I going to invest in a chat where someone is needing to be persuaded to book. Very little because those guys are usually flaky, they’ll book but then cancel nearer the time or even no show. So it’s not worth too much time to engage. Best approach is as someone said earlier ‘hi I’d like to book a session at 3 on Wednesday etc’. That will get a positive response. You can the ask any follow up questions. The best clients (those that get responses) have done their research and decided to book. It’s just a question of details after that.

Work time is extremely random because you never know when you’ll get clients and they tend to book with short notice (a few days in advance at most, often on the day). So you end up having wide working time availability to maximise bookings. That still leaves you kicking your heels sometimes so you have lots of ‘plan B’ activities ready in case no one books. It does mean lots of juggling and last minute changes of plan. I’m mainly available 10am to 10pm weekdays (that’s the window not the shift!!!) and weekends it’s daytime. The pattern I see is that most guys want to schedule within those broad times and Saturday or Sunday evening is quite unusual. I try to keep those times clear to do other pre planned things. That’s probably why you find guys more flaky those times. He probably was doing something else and took your booking in the expectation/hope he’d be free but it didn’t work out. He probably shouldn’t have taken it or he should have warmed you he might have to postpone when you booked. I decline the booking if there’s a good chance I’ll be delayed because it’s just too stressful trying to make the time and then giving a good service.

It’s not unusual or strange. I’m often asked to find another guy to work with by clients. Obviously it has to be at the client’s request, I would never foist it on them. I usually send the details of guys who I work with who I know are good (I don’t work with guys I’ve not met before) and ask the client to pick who he likes and then I try to set it up for the client. It’s part of the service and saves the client a lot of hassle. They pay me the total quoted and I settle up with the other guy. The client gets two guys who work well together, focused on the client, and doesn’t have to do much coordination.

I prefer not to count the cash when the client is present. I also prefer that they don’t hand it to me, not because I’m worried about some kind of law enforcement ‘trap’ (because it’s not illegal here to be paid for sex) but because it just feels a bit ‘off’ to take the cash by hand. I try to play down the transactional aspect of the experience. It’s much better for me if they just leave the cash somewhere visible for me. I’ll count it after they leave. It’s only been short once (by quite a lot!) so I messaged the client and he came back and was very apologetic because he had miscounted. Somehow if they pay by card it doesn’t have the same ‘off’ feeling about the transaction. I don’t know why!!

Being British of course now I’m embarrassed at having my own thread 🫣. Combine that with being needy for validation (why else would I have an Onlyfans?) and one can only imagine at how conflicted I feel right now….. but I think I’ll take the compliments from @FLFunSized and let my head grow as big as my 🍆. Thanks!! It was great to see you. X

Most of my friends know I do sex work. Those who didn’t approve aren’t friends any more! That’s not many to be fair. Most of them are intrigued by it, love to learn about it and are supportive. A few have been clients! (Although I find that a little awkward tbh). I’m careful about who else I tell (like family) because people can still be quite judgmental about it. Personally I don’t think it’s a bad thing to either sell sex or buy it. It’s liberating as long as it’s all done with agency.

If you have to ask for a review then you don’t deserve a good one! Reviews should be voluntarily given if they are to have any value. If my client says he loved the session immediately afterwards I sometimes say ‘feel free to leave a review if you want to’ because of course I love to see the feedback. If they didn’t like the session I’d rather they told me personally but it’s their call. What would I do if I was in your position? I’d probably ignore his request. If pressed I’d tell him he was great but not 5 star so I wouldn’t want to spoil his rating by giving him a 4, and I’d tell him why he wasn’t a 5. I’d stress that I still enjoyed it etc. Because he asked there’s no good outcome however. He simply shouldn’t have asked you.

You dodged a bullet. His ‘urgent need’ would have resulted in you paying him full rate upon booking and then him disappearing. That’s what I think would have happened had you sought to book him. Don’t hire guys off Sniffies. They are either scammers or are downright unprofessional. You’ll get conned or you’ll end up disappointed.

Just ask. If you want him to cum and then fuck him some more until you cum then it’s best to ask. I’m always appreciative of clients who ask for specifics if they want something that particularly gets them off. If I’m bottoming it’s more down to the skill of the top if I can continue to bottom after I’ve cum. I think a good top will slow down or stop briefly after the bottom cums and then start again after a couple of minutes. If he’s good then it’s likely I’ll get hard again.

Yes those are in call at my studio in central London. Out call is more and it depends where I’m going to. If it’s a local hotel it’s £20 more, but sometimes it’s at an airport hotel or out of London and that depends on how far away it is.

That’s exactly it. In a massage session I can decide how far I go (and it regularly goes quite far!!) but the essence is that I’m in control of the content. I also do escort sessions where the massage element is very secondary or none at all but that kind of session is only ever with clients who I’ve seen previously to give massage. I’ve found that doing an escort session is too stressful for me if I’ve never met the client before, especially if he expects me to top (and most escort session clients want that).

Everyone has different levels of service regarding what’s included in a sensual massage. I’m fine with clients sucking my dick. It usually happens when they’re on their front and I’m standing at their head working their neck or shoulders. They suck it for a few minutes. But it is a massage so a whole session of dick sucking would be an escort session for which a different rate applies. If you really want a session where you suck him to completion then you should ask for that up front to ensure he’s ok with it.

These are physical characteristics. Do you get my point? The best escorts disregard these. What matters is how you behave not what you look like.

Clients: providers are allowed to have preferences that they want to keep for their non work encounters. They can use hookup apps and express those preferences in any way they like on the app (fully aware that potential clients might see that and make decisions on hiring). This should be non controversial. I’m on apps and I selectively respond to certain guys that I like and I state my preferences. It’s not my work and shouldn’t be conflated with that. But I’m ALSO able to see any client (well…almost any client!) and make them feel like I really want to be there even if it wasn’t a financial transaction. If you think that me stating preferences for non work meetings impacts my ability to see any client in a work transaction setting then you’re fundamentally misunderstanding the nature of doing this kind of work. I guess that’s understandable because most clients simply couldn’t do the work and they view the issue from that perspective. But…that’s what makes a provider a provider: the ability to see anyone. Guys who know how that ability works (other providers) will know that physical characteristics aren’t the relevant factors.

Phuket…