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I can speak from the other perspective. I’ve been hired by people I know, friends and acquaintances. Given the type of massage I do it can be kind of awkward. There’s an additional dynamic when you know someone but my view is that given they want to hire me, and they understand what I do, I treat them exactly the same way I do ‘normal’ clients, including charging the normal rate (no ‘mates rates’). Actually if they ask for mates rates I find that even more awkward than being nakedly intimate with them!!! My advice is think carefully and if you decide to go ahead don’t ask him for ‘mates rates’, tell him you want him to treat you like any client and assure him that if he’s not wanting to accept you as a client he can decline and you won’t seek any reason or let it affect your friendship. If you can’t make that last point genuinely then don’t even try to book him.
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Definitely is. Whisper something in it…
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Sequential or shotgun approach when contacting providers?
+ Jamie21 replied to Wings246's topic in Questions About Hiring
What! My Nigerian prince is 100% genuine. He’s sending me $5m to look after for him until he can get out of Nigeria. We’re just discussing how much he needs to secure the release of the funds. On the matter of sequential or scatter gun I think sequential is preferable from my perspective. I know clients do both, some even reply to my response to their request by saying they booked with someone else (which is better than simply being ignored). I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve had guys message ‘hey are you available tomorrow at 3?’ to which I reply with a ‘yes’ and some details…and then I get no reply. Why do people do that? I think those kind are the ‘scatter gun’ approach. Sequential clients are more likely to at least reply with a yes or no. -
No!!! Greatest writer in the English language.
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Thank you! 🙏 Tbh I find it difficult to shake hands with the client after I’ve fucked him!!! I prefer to give a cuddle but the more ‘straight’ guys get very anxious about intimacy after they’ve cum. So we shake hands and say ‘good day to you’.
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What's in a name? That which we call a rose, By any other name would smell as sweet.
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If clients want to think of me as straight that’s fine, I can be straight and talk about sports and shake hands after we’ve fucked. If they want me to be bi that’s also fine, I can fuck their wife while sucking their cock. And if they want me to be gay that’s good too, I can discuss the latest Madonna album and the necessity for good mood lighting as I ride their cock. It reminds me of the Groucho Marx quote on principles. I’ll adapt it to: ‘This is my sexual orientation. If you don’t like it I have other sexual orientations’…
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When not faced with a nice hole it’s easy to rationalise the situation and think ‘ohhh normally poo comes out of there, I’m not licking that’. But when one comes face to ‘face’ with a nice hole that’s positively inviting exploration I simply can’t resist putting my face in and digging around with my tongue. If I’m honest I do do a quick visual and smell check (usually) because catching something can be work limiting (no clients for a couple of weeks = no income… and that isn’t good) but mentally running through all the things one could catch isn’t something I dwell on tbh. it’s just a quick check then dive in. I’m very oral anyway (like a baby… if it’s interesting it goes in my mouth) so I can’t resist rimming holes and sucking cocks, even after they’ve come out of a hole, including my hole. I’ve never yet caught anything from it… perhaps one builds up a resistance?
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That’s just GuysWay protecting themselves. I’m on GuysWay and I offer erotic work including penetration. I understand most guys on there are similar in that they do erotic / sensual services. There’s a big cross over with guys on RentMasseur. You should find someone you like and ask them.
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At least Canada remained loyal 😉 From your London correspondent 🇬🇧
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I offer a ‘happy start’ as I call it on a longer massage (2 hours). Some clients are extremely turned on right at the beginning and they want to be able to relax into the massage which is difficult if you have a hard on and are trying to lay on your front! So I suggest to them the ‘happy start’ option where I’ll suck them off before they get on the table. It can be part of an undressing. I’ve a few clients who like to start like that. Then they can relax on the table and enjoy the massage and build again to another climax near the end. I’ll usually aim to have the client cum 15 minutes before the end. This gives me time to give them a head massage and foot massage to ‘come back down’ from the intensity. Everyone loves that. Head massage after you’ve cum is bliss. I encourage them not to get up after coming. I simply cover their cock with a towel (people can feel exposed after the climax) and then get them to the edge of sleep with a special head massage. I don’t think it matters to me when or if I cum during the session. I’ve one regular client who I shoot in his mouth near the start of the massage as I stand at the end of the table and massage his head. He always swallows the load then we continue the massage. I do get a few clients who once they’ve cum the massage is immediately over. These are usually ‘straight’ married guys who are exploring and the guilt / realisation that they are gay hits as soon as they’ve cum and they want to get showered and out of here asap. I can tell with these clients before we start (they won’t look me in the eyes, they are highly anxious, their messages asking about the session reveal they understand gay sex from a porn perspective…) so I make sure they don’t cum too early. As for rimming it’s fairly unusual for the client to want to rim me. They can if they want but mostly I find they prefer to receive than give. That’s fine, I much prefer to rim than to receive it.
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Don’t rely on others assurances. Your health is your responsibility. @TR1989 said it well. I agree with him. You should take all the precautions you need to give yourself sufficient peace of mind to enjoy yourself. By all means ask your masseur or escort about his status. I like it when clients ask me because it shows they take sexual health seriously. It’s probably better though if they ask before the session…. I had a client this week who messaged me after the session asking my status because I’d topped him bareback. I told him all negative and the date of my most recent test but it’s a bit late to ask afterwards isn’t it!
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That’s true but for me it feels like if I’m paying they’re only collaborating with me because of the money. It makes me wonder if they would be with me if it wasn’t for the money, and then I think that shows in the final film. So when it comes to collaborations I think it’s better for the viewers that they’re watching two guys (or more) together who are into each other. I get paid by clients (obviously those aren’t filmed!) and I do enjoy it even though I’m being paid but in those situations the client has chosen to see me, so I know they are wanting to be with me. That’s the turn on for me, and I really enjoy the session (it’s still work of course but I wouldn’t continue the sex work if I didn’t enjoy it). The distinction is that with collabs where I’m paying it’s not a turn on because my scene partner is only there for the money.
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They’ll charge models who have fewer followers/subscribers than them but wouldn’t charge a model of equal or greater profile. There’s a hierarchy. He’d probably charge me because I’ve a lot fewer followers but it’s hypothetical because I’d not pay to collab. I prefer to collab with guys who are wanting to film with me regardless of payment because that results in a better film given that both of us are doing it for the enjoyment, there’s no acting.
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Is it rude to ask to not be scheduled in between appts?
+ Jamie21 replied to LuckyLechon's topic in Questions About Hiring
Most clients are like you in that respect but I do have a couple of clients who like to see me ‘after usage’ and unshowered. They’ll book towards the end of the day and specifically ask me what’s happened earlier and they especially appreciate it if I’ve bottomed. Used goods are an attraction. -
Transition from therapeutic to erotic with therapist
+ Jamie21 replied to Frenchjuris's topic in Questions About Hiring
Good luck. Although I expect that he must advertise his sensual massage somewhere (and likely with totally different name/ branding to his therapeutic massage services) otherwise he’d struggle to find clients! -
Is it rude to ask to not be scheduled in between appts?
+ Jamie21 replied to LuckyLechon's topic in Questions About Hiring
I avoid booking appointments back to back. It’s too stressful and I need a bit of time to wind down and prepare for the next client! Back to back sessions draining! -
Transition from therapeutic to erotic with therapist
+ Jamie21 replied to Frenchjuris's topic in Questions About Hiring
Book an erotic massage with him. He must advertise those somewhere, so book via that. He definitely won’t transition from therapeutic to erotic mid session for you because firstly it’s not ethical to do so, secondly you’ll have paid (or been quoted) the lower therapeutic rate, and thirdly he won’t have mentally (and physically) prepared for erotic. These things are two separate services. Don’t muddle them up. -
Do you clean off before dipping another?
+ Jamie21 replied to nomad's topic in Questions About Hiring
No, it’s not practical. I’ve been in large group sex sessions, it just doesn’t happen because people just go from one hole to another. I’m more careful with sucking in those situations though. -
Interesting comments on here regarding duration and activity in the session. If one is thinking in terms of sex as being the actual act of fucking and cuming, and that act is the focus or objective of the session, and it is rushed towards in an hour session then I would say one is missing an opportunity. That kind of session describes a random hookup app encounter, which is fine but do you really want to pay an expert (a sex worker) good money for what you could get for free on Sniffies? (Not Grindr because that’s impossible to use now 😂). The old adage ‘it’s the journey not the destination’ comes to mind. The journey makes the destination. The journey is the event and it can take as long as you like if your mind is adjusted to consider it as such. Fucking and cuming could be part of the journey, at any point, or not be part of it atall. If there is a destination to the session then it’s to feel connection and intimacy, to be desired and to desire. Yesterday I saw a client for a two hour session on the floor. He lost track of time, I almost did (we ran over by 20 minutes). There was no concern about how to fill the time…it just happened. I know his boundaries, but within that frame we paint a picture. He’s a regular client (regular is a few times a year - he lives abroad). Each visit is the same but different. I get some clients asking for half hour sessions. Sorry I don’t do them, those are not worth buying. An hour is the minimum but it feels rushed sometimes. I understand it’s a cost thing, hence why I offer an hour as minimum session but my advice is consider a longer session and to think of it differently. Not as a way to get off…but as a way to connect and discover. That way the time is never long enough. You’ll go back to him for subsequent sessions which are just like moving to the next chapter in the book you can’t put down. Did I say my client above is 80? He’s still on the journey of discovery. It’s fabulous isn’t it 🙂.
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I agree if you’re going in to rim you need to do it properly, but it’s best to start very slowly and tease around the hole a bit. It’s all about the anticipation. Once you’ve teased for long enough then go deep and vary the pace and depth. I always hold the cheeks open to do a good visual check before I’ll rim, and then hold them open to really get into his hole deeply. If it’s all clean then there’s nothing better than working his ass into a frenzy.
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How do I get contact info on OF w/o trouble ensuing?
+ Jamie21 replied to viewing ownly's topic in The Lounge
The stern warning will have been issued by Onlyfans. They don’t want performers to meet with fans. It’s because of prostitution. They allow exchanges of contact details between creators because that’s how collaboration is fostered but definitely not from fans. The creator won’t be allowed to (or won’t want to risk their OF profile being suspended) if they offer contact details. Best to try via the creators X or BSky or other platform to make contact. -
Am I to assume the provider cums or doesn’t cum?
+ Jamie21 replied to Erbenle's topic in Questions About Hiring
It’s key, if you enjoy theatre or cinema and want to become immersed in the production. Visiting a good escort / masseur is very similar: you suspend disbelief for a while and the quality of the production / service allows you to do that. However some of my clients enjoy the fact that they’re ’one of many’ so to speak. They don’t want the illusion of them being the special one. They like the fact I’ve seen others same day or will be seeing others, especially if they are top. Some like me to talk about it during their session. I guess it’s the mix of insight into an intriguing illicit world and the proximity to promiscuity (real or imagined) that’s the turn on. I may have said it previously but the main sex organ is the brain: work out what gets your client going and feed his brain with that. -
Yes he seems miscast. I see someone like Sean Bean who played the character in Troy (with Brad Pitt as Achilles 😍). That film had Orlando Bloom miscast too I think. It’s 10 years after the Trojan war so Odysseus would be ageing. Similarly Helen might be past her best but yes the casting seems off. I’ll still watch it though.
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*Another escort detained at the border
+ Jamie21 replied to TorontoDrew's topic in Questions About Hiring
Yes that’s it. They travel on a tourist visa, which requires no paid work. Regardless of the morality question on doing sex work (morally fine in my opinion but seemingly not for US border security) it’s a breach of the visa. Also likely breach of tax regulation in that paid work in US should be declared to IRS. So it’s fine to travel to US on a tourist visa, have sex with locals (without charge) and shoot porn films (without remuneration) on a purely voluntary basis. But don’t try to do paid work. Similar rules apply across almost all countries. I think the US is simply being more vigilant in enforcement.
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