Going rates? (And other first timer questions)

[david78nyc]

I discovered a content creator who is 100% my type and am thinking of spoiling myself and taking the plunge and hiring for the first time. Couple of questions for the forum: 1) He’s proposing $550 an hour. Does that seem like an appropriate rate for someone in DC? I have no idea what market is but I was expecting something closer to $400. 2) Is it generally okay to ask if he’d meet for less? Or is that rude? 3) If he doesn’t have reviews, should I wait until he does? He seems nice on DM and my gut says he’d be good, but that’s a big investment for me. And finally 4) does anyone ever ask to record their sessions for (ahem) use later on? Would that be an unusual ask?

Is profile is below. And thanks gents!

 

Riley_Walker - Male Escort, Gay massage - Washington | Rent.Men

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Edited yesterday at 12:03 PM by david78nyc

[BananaBagel]

Blue eye jock - I see why you’re interested.
 

If this is your first time and an occasional treat you may want to offer his full rate to have one less thing on your mind. sometimes you can say you’re preferred rate once and see if they are open to it but a well known OF performer may not have much reason to accept less than what he can command. 
 

Reviews or notes on here are very useful and make a big difference. You may want to see if this post finds some men who know your guy. 
 

I don’t know about recording. 
 

Good luck!

[Peter Eater]

2 hours ago, david78nyc said:

does anyone ever ask to record their sessions for (ahem) use later on? Would that be an unusual ask?

RM ads include a line to list “Rentmen Services,” which has video availability as an option. Riley’s ad does not include it. Still, you could ask.

[+ Pensant]

You could also offer $800 for two hours, since he’s already there.

[Nue2thegame]

I think $550 is high for any market and your hunch of $400 is a more realistic upper limit. Although there’s some debate on the forum about haggling the overall sentiment is that it shouldn’t be done and many providers find it insulting. If he represents your ultimate fantasy, you probably don’t want to sully it by having him feel that he’s compromising. Many providers are fine with videoing. Final red flag (at least for me) is lack of reviews. Some of these guys aren’t real. If it seems TGTBT, it probably is. 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

$550 an hour for a successful OF creator isn't unusual; that's why I don't even look at them.  But it's a lot of money for your first time. 

I would not ask for a discount. That's his rate, and if his OF is successful, he can be choosy. 

I might wait for reviews if no one here has experience. There are lots of negative stories about people hiring OF creators. 

Some providers are open to filming but since his income is OF, he may not want free videos out there. 

[56harrisond]

3 hours ago, david78nyc said:

I discovered a content creator who is 100% my type and am thinking of spoiling myself and taking the plunge and hiring for the first time. 

His profile is below.

Riley_Walker - Male Escort, Gay massage - Washington | Rent.Men

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Riley_Walker Gay Escort in Washington, District of Columbia, available for Modeling,Boyfriend Experience. | Find...

Reviewed here

 

[+ Jamie21]

I can’t comment on the rate because I work in a different market. I’d recommend avoiding trying to negotiate the rate. I don’t like clients trying to negotiate me down tbh. 
As for filming I’m ok with clients asking to film a small part of their session but I’m not ok to film the whole session because it’s too much of a distraction. You could ask him and see. It wouldn’t offend. 

[+ azdr0710]

since you suggest this will be your first meeting, here are some threads with lots of advice....go over all of them end-to-end.....

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/142802-etiquette-for-initial-communication/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/130365-caveats-in-hiring-please-contribute/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/83821-advice-for-a-newbie-please/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/103088-newbie-question/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/13389-recommendations-for-newbie/

be to-the-point, brief, professional in communication......no gushy daily texts!......smile, have fun, talk slowly, ask him what he likes, no money talk, look him in the eye, firm handshake....... no deposit!!

[jusmeinbr]

Just my own approach:

Once quoted a rate, I either agree or decline.

On a couple of occasions, a provider has immediately dropped the rate (which I neither expected nor wanted), with one dropping it almost in half.  

When that happened about seven months ago entailing ale_aleman who’d also been VERY deceitful with me about where he even was when we began corresponding two hours prior, I did respond in a terse manner.

Thereafter, I was utterly lampooned by members of this forum (about 32 such entries with high fives and one member praising another member for “calling it like I see it” regarding me — he “called” a very obvious ball a strike — and one member posting a tutorial on rate negotiation which I neither asked for nor wanted).

Accordingly, I deleted the entire post.  The only comment I thought that was appropriate did come from @Jamie21, who basically said rate negotiation is very unlikely to result in a pleasing and fulfilling subsequent meeting.  I did feel vindicated when @johnwhatelse made this post on the individual in question.

You do what you feel comfortable with, but for me, a final “yes” or “no” upon being quoted a rate has served me well for 22 years, and I plan to stick with that firm policy no matter how many unsolicited (and unwanted) tutorials on “rate negotiation” may surface on any future post which I originate.

[big-n-tall]

When I asked him May of last year he said 450 per hour and 2000 for an overnight. So inflation. 😁

[BigK]

13 hours ago, Nue2thegame said:

I think $550 is high for any market and your hunch of $400 is a more realistic upper limit. Although there’s some debate on the forum about haggling the overall sentiment is that it shouldn’t be done and many providers find it insulting. If he represents your ultimate fantasy, you probably don’t want to sully it by having him feel that he’s compromising. Many providers are fine with videoing. Final red flag (at least for me) is lack of reviews. Some of these guys aren’t real. If it seems TGTBT, it probably is. 

I don’t haggle.  I simply say thanks I think I would’ve enjoyed meeting you, but unfortunately you’re over my budget.  I’d say 50% of the time I get a response where they offered to lower their rate..  you can never prejudge their willingness to drop their rate.  Maybe they just had a cancellation or been having a slow few days.  I have to say that whenever this does happen, I don’t feel like I’m being given incomplete service.

[TJMS]

I agree you should not haggle. I am in the Chicago market and I have providers as low as $250 (coincidentally a favorite and super hot), most in the $300, and a couple at $350 for an hour of full service. I think if you're quoted a higher price than you are willing to pay, just thank them and move on.