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On 12/4/2025 at 8:38 PM, Whoisyourdaddy said:

Proudwhore, older clients should know better than to try to haggle.

I have more sympathy for the potential college client. He may be too young and naive to know the etiquette of hiring.

I'm so tempted to fuck the college student. But he ghosted me and stopped responding after I said the rate he proposed was insulting. He is a very exotic-looking guy. He lives 1 hour away from where I'm staying. 

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1 hour ago, ProudWhore said:

I'm so tempted to fuck the college student. But he ghosted me and stopped responding after I said the rate he proposed was insulting. He is a very exotic-looking guy. He lives 1 hour away from where I'm staying. 

That's too bad. It sounded potentially hot.

A young client once hit me up about a provider I had seen. He said he had been robbed and assaulted by someone he had met on Grindr, so he found RM to be safer.

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13 hours ago, ProudWhore said:

I'm so tempted to fuck the college student. But he ghosted me and stopped responding after I said the rate he proposed was insulting. He is a very exotic-looking guy. He lives 1 hour away from where I'm staying. 

Sounds like you're still trying to decide if this is a career or a hobby. 

Your first topics on CofM were that you look "too straight" to be picked up by anyone at gay venues, so you're always going home alone.  Then, that you're "too hot" to sleep with the few men that do approach you at those venues.  Later, you thought about being an escort but requiring client pictures up front to only get paid to accompany good looking men.  Now, you're an escort over age 40, who rarely does anal or give oral, wants to command higher than average NYC rates for full-service well-reviewed providers, tells a customer you're insulted with a low-ball offer, yet are upset because the low-ball offer guy was hot and you would have fucked him for free!

If there's one thing I've learned from the escorts who contribute to this CofM, is that escorting is not a great way to monetize your personal sex life.

Consider going to massage school and learning how to give a proper massage.  A client can hire you for a massage, and then you can decide when you meet the client if you want to fuck him as well.  Apparently, the young hot 20-something had good success booking masseurs doing that very thing (according to the Original Post of this topic), so absolutely he should continue doing what works for him while it does.

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On 12/5/2025 at 3:52 PM, jmichaeliii said:

There are so many good providers that have what I consider affordable rates and tend to be more down to earth and fun.

What would you say is your "affordable" price point? (And where do you live?)

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On 12/4/2025 at 9:25 PM, acks0104 said:

I think it's tacky to try and talk down a price that a provider sets

 

On 12/4/2025 at 9:39 PM, jmichaeliii said:

either pay what is asked or pick someone else

Fine sentiments.  I agree with them  But - what exactly *is* being asked? When I speak with a new potential hire (London) and ask his rate, I often hear something like "well .. it's .. er .. £250" or even ".. it's usually £250" . That's clearly a rate not fixed in stone. 

On 12/5/2025 at 1:15 AM, Mark_fl said:

I just tell a provider whose rate I feel is too high something like, "thank you. I'm sure you're worth it,  but thats out of my price range."

But i wouldn't want a counter-offer.

That's what I say, and I usually hear "what is your budget?", to which I reply "it's £200, how would that sit with you if we don't f--k?" Usually I get acceptance. And that avoids the session being affected by the provider feeling that he's been "talked down".  And leaves the door open, in the session, to 'upgrade' the session to full-fee if I decide I'd like the missing piece of the jigsaw :classic_wink: to be included.

Works for me, YMMV

 

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On 12/4/2025 at 8:15 PM, Mark_fl said:

I just tell a provider whose rate I feel is too high something like, "thank you. I'm sure you're worth it,  but thats out of my price range."

 

I also do this but I have been known to ask if they’re flexible and I often get a discount for asking 

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Been reading a lot on this site that some guys charge too much.
I guess that's to each his own.

But is it kosher to ask them to bring the price down?
Is that unreasonable?
I dont want to be a jackass. AITA??

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9 hours ago, TryItAllTwice said:

Been reading a lot on this site that some guys charge too much.
I guess that's to each his own.

But is it kosher to ask them to bring the price down?
Is that unreasonable?
I dont want to be a jackass. AITA??

 

I don’t do that, but that’s just me. If the quoted rate is more than I’m willing to pay, I simply say something along the lines of, “I’m sure your rate reflects your value, but it’s beyond what I can accommodate,” thank them for their time, and move on. In my view, asking for a discount in this line of work is like asking for a discounted experience.

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15 hours ago, TryItAllTwice said:

Been reading a lot on this site that some guys charge too much.
I guess that's to each his own.

But is it kosher to ask them to bring the price down?
Is that unreasonable?
I dont want to be a jackass. AITA??

Nothing wrong with doing exactly that. In fact, Bozo has found that many providers actually appreciate hearing counter-offers. Admittedly, many don't.  Thankfully, there is a large universe of escorts/masseurs out there who, in highly competitive markets (i.e. NYC, LA, DC, or South Florida) are willing to meet you half (or two-thirds, three-quarters, etc.) way.

It is a strategy that Bozo has used successfully, and saved thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of dollars, over a lifetime of hiring.

BTC aka Master Haggler
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I will say I recently got a counter-offer that worked out.  I think his pricing included a large surcharge, as he is usually requested to bottom. Once he read my profile and saw my needs were more vanilla, he offered a reduced price much lower than his autoreply.  He also pointed out how helpful my profile was and that he wished everyone was so clear about what they wanted.  I was just glad he actually read it.

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I have no qualms about providers setting their rate, because it is their business and my cost for the time. But if it is higher than what I think the market rate should be, I will indicate the rate is more than I was willing to pay. This happened twice, and both providers counter-offered to a rate I would agree to. We're all human. Just communicate and be respectful.

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What clients don’t realise when talking about ‘market rate’ is that the provider sets his rate based on how much work he wants. I could do more work if I reduced my price but hey, I don’t fancy working that much so my price reflects that. There’s fewer guys willing to pay what I charge (which actually is probably around market rate now I guess, for central London) but that level of demand suits me. Plus I avoid the low rent clients at the cheaper end of the market.

I get a few clients saying ‘it’s above my budget’ or asking for ‘hot guy discounts’ such as the I’m a virgin / poor student / I’m straight but gay guys love me’ types but those are just chancing their luck. Plus there’s the ‘give me a first time discount because I’ll be a regular’ brigade who you’ll never see again if you do accede to their request.

No doubt about it the best clients are those who research you, see the rate and simply message to make a booking. No discount requests, no pictures (from them), no endless chat. Those clients get looked after because they’re repeat business. Discount clients you never see again. 
 

 

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I can never do the haggling/negotiating thing, because I always feel like I would be getting 3/4 or 2/3 of the the guy's best service. I would never be able to relax and feel like I was getting 100%. So if a provider quotes me more than I can spend, I politely say something like "Thanks. I respect your right to set your fees, but that's just too rich for me." (I wish I could think of a better response though, because that sometimes seems like I want to negotiate down, and it's not.)

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I hate when guys give you the rate then thwy say plus tip.....  I totally get that tip is appreciate amd deserved. But if seeing a provider at his place or mine why do they always say plus tip.  I always tip but dont like being told to tip.  

Interested in hearing thoughts. 

If I go to a spa then I typically tip 75 to 100% of the services. 

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7 hours ago, hotfunnow said:

I hate when guys give you the rate then thwy say plus tip.....  I totally get that tip is appreciate amd deserved. But if seeing a provider at his place or mine why do they always say plus tip.  I always tip but dont like being told to tip.  

Interested in hearing thoughts. 

If I go to a spa then I typically tip 75 to 100% of the services. 

I will hire a provider for $300/hour before I hire one for $250/hour “plus tip”. Anytime I’m told the rate is “plus tip” my response is a very polite, and very respectful, “Thank you. I won’t trouble you further.” And then I don’t. 

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8 hours ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

I can never do the haggling/negotiating thing, because I always feel like I would be getting 3/4 or 2/3 of the the guy's best service. I would never be able to relax and feel like I was getting 100%. So if a provider quotes me more than I can spend, I politely say something like "Thanks. I respect your right to set your fees, but that's just too rich for me." (I wish I could think of a better response though, because that sometimes seems like I want to negotiate down, and it's not.)

Years ago, like 10+ years ago - or more! - a provider told me he never negotiated the 1st hour but would discount the 2nd and subsequent hours. (This was in Las Vegas when $150/hour got you a quality experience at the time. Yes, I am that old.) I have no problem negotiating if I’m asking for 2 or more hours and I’ve never felt that I’ve received “less than” 100% when the provider agrees. Perhaps I’ve just been lucky. YMMV. Only once did a provider tell me “No” to a discount for a 2nd hour. “My rate is my rate and I’m worth what I’m worth,” is what he told me at the time. (And yes, he was!) If I’m hiring for only 1 hour (a rarity) I will pay the stated rate with no negotiation. Trite but true - you have to treat people the way you want to be treated. 

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10 hours ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

I can never do the haggling/negotiating thing, because I always feel like I would be getting 3/4 or 2/3 of the the guy's best service. I would never be able to relax and feel like I was getting 100%. So if a provider quotes me more than I can spend, I politely say something like "Thanks. I respect your right to set your fees, but that's just too rich for me." (I wish I could think of a better response though, because that sometimes seems like I want to negotiate down, and it's not.)

On the same note...think about all the times you paid "full price" and only got 3/4 of the guy's best service.  

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