Is 400 the new going nyc rate?

[pjaynyc]

It seems like more and more of the guys are raising their rates from the standard 300 to 400?  Has anyone else experienced this with their regulars? Is this the new norm ? 

[Chancealot]

If not higher 

[pubic_assistance]

19 hours ago, pjaynyc said:

It seems like more and more of the guys are raising their rates from the standard 300 to 400?  Has anyone else experienced this with their regulars? Is this the new norm ? 

I generally don't hire escorts in NYC unless I see someone particularly delicious passing through. So no "regulars" to report on, raising rates...but I have consistently had several newbies quote me $ 300 for something as simple as an erotic massage and $ 500 for "full service".  So $ 400 does indeed seem to be the median for hotties visiting NYC.

Edited Tuesday at 02:15 PM by pubic_assistance
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[Walt]

If only we could go back to the days when rates were posted.  After a sampling of attractive providers posted "reasonable" rates, it would normalize the market and we would see many if not most of the higher rates get reduced by providers.  😞

[+ KensingtonHomo]

I do see a lot of $400/hour on here (particularly with the guys in their 20s), but I am still on a $300/hour with some regulars. Or we're doing $500 for two hours. And we tip - which I think helps keep the rate as they're generally getting another $50-$100. 

[56harrisond]

[Wanderoz]

Interesting thing about price points.   Once you hit them the whole business starts to decline.  Look at what's happening too restaurants.  Price points reached a level that diners have said enough and restaurant business is in decline, with record numbers of closures.  There will always be luxury items and places, but you can't market Target as Tiffany.

[+ ApexNomad]

11 minutes ago, Wanderoz said:

Interesting thing about price points.   Once you hit them the whole business starts to decline.  Look at what's happening too restaurants.  Price points reached a level that diners have said enough and restaurant business is in decline, with record numbers of closures.  There will always be luxury items and places, but you can't market Target as Tiffany.

Interesting thing about cocks… the real luxury isn’t size, it’s when the guy knows how to use it. That’s Tiffany-level service.

 

[+ glutes]

1 hour ago, ApexNomad said:

Interesting thing about cocks… the real luxury isn’t size, it’s when the guy knows how to use it. That’s Tiffany-level service.

 

The saying "It ain't the meat, it's the motion" is not a Bette Midler quote, although it is a line she might deliver in her signature comedic, bawdy style

. The phrase is the title of a song popularized by another female singer, Maria Muldaur. 

[The Dude]

If we all refuse to pay those rates, eventually they'll have to lower their rates.

[DMonDude]

8 minutes ago, The Dude said:

If we all refuse to pay those rates, eventually they'll have to lower their rates.

Unfortunately, they have more than enough people paying those rates that they don't need to lower them. Otherwise i feel like they would have already.

[+ Axiom2001]

I cannot respond to your query, but if $400 is the going rate in "The Big Apple" or in any large city, I will NOT be engaging!

[You_Can_Turn_Over]

27 minutes ago, DMonDude said:

Unfortunately, they have more than enough people paying those rates that they don't need to lower them. Otherwise i feel like they would have already.

Curious if providers from cultures where negotiating on rates might be more common than in the US are quoting these higher rates with the expectation that some clients will readily agree, while others might nudge them lower, and either way the provider receives a feasible rate?

[DMonDude]

10 minutes ago, You_Can_Turn_Over said:

Curious if providers from cultures where negotiating on rates might be more common than in the US are quoting these higher rates with the expectation that some clients will readily agree, while others might nudge them lower, and either way the provider receives a feasible rate?

Possibly, who knows. I've personally never met any providers who negotiate rate. They've all been take it or leave it rates mostly. I've hired some where you negotiate what you'll do in the session for what rate, but not the rate it self. Like i've negotiated "ok we could do ABC for 200" and they'll be like "ooo no i usually need more for that, but we could do XYZ for 200 instead". But i've never had a provider say "full service is 400" and then i go "but can ya do it for 300?" and they say yes lol. Though to be fair, I've also never tried cause i just operate under the assumption all rates are take it or leave it unless a discount/deal is offered to me (which has happened before).

[aiseeya]

Am I the only client who sees this hobby as a tertier needs. In a way that I only partake when I have extra fun funds enough to afford a provider who I fancied. When purse is tight or price is too high, I simply go look for free fun or look for other provider within my budget. Same when I budget for vacation. When Four Seasons or first class seat are out of my budget, I go for cheaper option. 

As someone who works in service, customer who ask for a discount but expect high quality service in return is an ick. People gotta eat and make a living. 

[DMonDude]

6 minutes ago, aiseeya said:

Am I the only client who sees this hobby as a tertier needs. In a way that I only partake when I have extra fun funds enough to afford a provider who I fancied. When purse is tight or price is too high, I simply go look for free fun or look for other provider within my budget. Same when I budget for vacation. When Four Seasons or first class seat are out of my budget, I go for cheaper option. 

As someone who works in service, customer who ask for a discount but expect high quality service in return is an ick. People gotta eat and make a living. 

I'm sure we all do, but also. Even fun things, it sucks when they become unaffordable. So it's not unfathomable that people would complain about rising rates. But for the totally valid reasons you said, that doesn't mean providers raising their rates is wrong. Their bills and fun are all going up in price just the same as it is for us. It's all ultimately a larger issue of society as a whole becoming more and more unaffordable for everyone and it hits everyone on both sides of any transaction.

[aiseeya]

19 minutes ago, DMonDude said:

I'm sure we all do, but also. Even fun things, it sucks when they become unaffordable. So it's not unfathomable that people would complain about rising rates. But for the totally valid reasons you said, that doesn't mean providers raising their rates is wrong. Their bills and fun are all going up in price just the same as it is for us. It's all ultimately a larger issue of society as a whole becoming more and more unaffordable for everyone and it hits everyone on both sides of any transaction.

This I can get behind

[Whoisyourdaddy]

I wonder if some niche markets charge more because they don't have many competitors. I notice this with twink providers.

[+ DrownedBoy]

8 hours ago, DMonDude said:

But i've never had a provider say "full service is 400" and then i go "but can ya do it for 300?" and they say yes lol.

In Chicago that's exactly what I did. Some new young Latino said 400. I said, sorry, my limits are 300/500 for 1/2 hours. He immediately accepted my 2 hour rate. Great performance and he wants more hires.

The more I'm here, the more glad I am I don't live in NYC. Kids here hear about those prices and think they can get them here. Cute.

[Rudynate]

10 hours ago, aiseeya said:

Am I the only client who sees this hobby as a tertier needs. In a way that I only partake when I have extra fun funds enough to afford a provider who I fancied. When purse is tight or price is too high, I simply go look for free fun or look for other provider within my budget. Same when I budget for vacation. When Four Seasons or first class seat are out of my budget, I go for cheaper option. 

As someone who works in service, customer who ask for a discount but expect high quality service in return is an ick. People gotta eat and make a living. 

If money is tight, I do without and I console myself with that saying, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger."

Edited Tuesday at 02:58 PM by Rudynate
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[+ Pensant]

I’m seeing $400 in Seattle and other affluent metros, too. My private stock is less, and three in particular are deeply attuned and in sync with my roleplay scenarios. That said, hot twinks at $400 aren’t that unusual, and if they’re into it, I’m willing. When they get to $500+ I demur.

[ShortCutie7]

I have done data on this in the past… median range is 300-400, but the mode is 400!

[+ SirBillybob]

1 hour ago, Pensant said:

I’m seeing $400 in Seattle and other affluent metros, too. My private stock is less, and three in particular are deeply attuned and in sync with my roleplay scenarios. That said, hot twinks at $400 aren’t that unusual, and if they’re into it, I’m willing. When they get to $500+ I demur.

Demurstibation is the new shrinkflation. 

[Walt]

2 hours ago, Rudynate said:

If money is tight, I do without and I console myself with that saying, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger."

Saying it over and over and over and over and over until I fall into a deep blissful sleep.

[+ FrankR]

That is why you wait for the end of the month when rent is due! 😆 Suddenly, my regulars remember me fondly and newbies become far more reasonable in terms of expectations!!