Monarchy79

Regarding the issue of poop; it’s deeper than the concern of poop getting on your penis, but particles of fecal matter getting IN your penis, which can cause bacterial infections.

Micro-aggressions and gaslighting don’t work with me, so statements such as “I must have hit a nerve”, don’t work. My examples were used to demonstrate a wide variety of services and how those service providers’ relationships with their customers are two-way streets, just like the business of the more “personal” services that are discussed in these threads. And to be clear, YOUR interpretation of the topic is off. The original topic at hand is based on whether a client should be offended that an escort isn’t attracted to him in real life, while in the realm of meeting with a client, the thin veil of acting that an escort must do to give the illusion of attraction. A member of this forum then made a comment about fat and old clients, which touched a nerve (and possibly touched yours), which resulted in someone else stating they clients have the right to be fat and old WITHOUT criticism, because they’re paying customers. My point (which will not change), is this: Regardless of whether you’re a paying customer or not, the eyes don’t lie. Further, you don’t get the right to impose standards on others that you can’t meet yourself. So if you’re a hiring client who is attractive, good for you. if you’re a hiring client who is fat and old, have some humility and show some respect for those who choose to have you as a client, as your money doesn’t not relinquish you from meeting general standards of attraction either. And if a client entertains you in spite of this, be grateful.

So basically, you’re stating that a paying customer can have the highest of standards, but the provider of that service, should have NO standards? Guess what? Professionals of any type also have the right to have standards, evaluate their clients and not exactly accept what’s presented to them…. 1.) professional waxers can (and will), turn down clients with poor hygiene…(there’s been a surge in videos all over social media this) 2.) A dentist can discontinue services with a client who refuses to follow protocol and advisement on the care of their teeth can gums 3.) An auto-mechanic can turn town service to a client who makes no effort on vehicle maintenance, which can cause a liability to the shop owners if there’s a dispute on who’s “at fault”, if a major issue arises. 4.) a hairdresser can critique and refuse service to an incoming customer who has headlice , ring worms, or any other infection that could impact the sanitation of their equipment and facility. In turn, masseurs and escorts have the right to be picky as they choose, and the mind set that “they’re providing the service”, therefore ALL of the requirements or presentation falls on them, is unacceptable, and shows the sense of self-delusion that many guys on this site have. let’s think of the EMPATHY that these guys hive dealing with many of these clients, extending beyond being fat or old: 1.) Bad, rancid breath (but demand kissing as a requirement) 2.) Poor hygiene (coming to an appointment without being freshly showered, dingle-berries, rancid feet and pits, etc.etc.) 3.) Incel-ish personalities which completely turn off everyone. So with much of the crap that these guys have to deal with, just to entertain many guys who wouldn’t get anyone to even touch them unless they’re being paid, some consideration should go both ways.

Wait a minute….. @pubic_assistanceis extremely blunt (and at times intentionally obnoxious 😎), but at the least, he is universally fair and operates on logic. Why can’t he call the men who hire escorts and masseurs “old” and “fat”, when the same guys will be on this forum critiquing escorts and masseurs for having the smallest “flaws” in their appearance? Nothing cracks me up more than seeing wrinkly, old, and fat coots in the forums ripping escorts and masseurs to shreds on their appearance : “Oh, he's gained a few pounds…”, “The structural alignment of his cheekbones are off… don’t hire.” “He’s a fraud, his dick measures at 8.36 inches and not the 9 inches advertised.” The thought that many of these men literally look like the embodiment of Lindsey Graham naked (with ladybugs and all) , yet can dish out the critiques, but can’t take it. Hipocrisy is a stench that permeates sites like this. That’s for sure.

I love transparency. Those who have the opportunity to get it, should be grateful. I had a similar experience, as my local gym chain attracts gays, especially masseurs and escorts. Last summer, there were at least four guys from R—Masseur working out regularly. One guy looked at me as if I were a piece of garbage. He just gave me absolute stankness, just in passing. Once other dude asked me to spot him and the other one I had no contact with at all. But then the fourth one came into the steam room one night while I was there. He started at me, and then flashed me and started jerking off. Nothing happened as some straight guy ended up coming in. I made a note to myself to book him later in the month. I did, and my mileage varied very well. So in the end, don’t be annoyed when a guy reveals his true preferences as you could be saving yourself from a terrible experience, or guaranteeing yourself an outstanding one 😎.

The entire paradigm is different. its expected for women to request deposits, to ensure that the John isn’t the cops and to ensure they’ll get paid. When the John arrives, it’s expected for him to pay up front too. With guys, those who usually request deposits are scammers and payment up front is also sketchy. With women, it’s important for them to ask questions to protect them from predatory Johns. With guys, they don’t ask many questions as it could possibly spook the potential John out as he’ll think it’s a sting operation, and a lot of men are married and DL , and want strict privacy, almost to the point of anonymity. Also, with men, the workers are probably prepared for a crazy guy, as he may be crazy too!! 😂, so everything is evened out with his physical safety risks.

For many men, cars are a status symbol and reflect their personalities. no different than how women see purses as status symbols.

Grindr in itself is plagued with danger, even with regular hookups, so any other paid service from there would seem sketchy to me. Stay away from hiring from Grindr.

Simple Issue/Simple Solution. If an escort asks for a picture and you don’t want to send one, don’t send one. Move on.

Most guys are ageist, until they get old. lol. once they are on the receiving end of ageism, they are suddenly insulted and appalled. 😂

Life (regardless of sexual orientation) happens in phases. The key to succeeding in each phase is to prepare, and adjust expectations. Youth is temporary and is a fleeting phase that has many forks in the road to choose from. For any man or woman to expect to be lusted after and “paid attention to” over the age of 40, in the same way that they were at 20, is delusional and unrealistic. I’m 46 and could care less about attracting younger men, or being a sex symbol. I took care of all of that during the time I was supposed to. In the cases where people do flirt with me, and show me attraction, I’m pleasantly flattered, take it as that, and move on. People need to grow up.

Experimentation, assessment of variables and constants, combined with logic usually works. 😎

A “Good-Tease”? is that an oxymoron?

None of these guys are new. They all fall under the same formula: 1.) Attractive 2.) Exotic 3.) unskilled You’ll more than likely have a lackluster experience (on a bed), from a cute guy who is shorter than his description on his profile.

Hey Guys, Although I haven’t booked a massage from CL in a while, I occasionally peruse the site. Has anyone had any experience with this guy? https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/hws/d/fairfax-one-stop-services-for-gentlemen/7916050152.html