Monarchy79

Regarding the issue of poop; it’s deeper than the concern of poop getting on your penis, but particles of fecal matter getting IN your penis, which can cause bacterial infections.

Micro-aggressions and gaslighting don’t work with me, so statements such as “I must have hit a nerve”, don’t work. My examples were used to demonstrate a wide variety of services and how those service providers’ relationships with their customers are two-way streets, just like the business of the more “personal” services that are discussed in these threads. And to be clear, YOUR interpretation of the topic is off. The original topic at hand is based on whether a client should be offended that an escort isn’t attracted to him in real life, while in the realm of meeting with a client, the thin veil of acting that an escort must do to give the illusion of attraction. A member of this forum then made a comment about fat and old clients, which touched a nerve (and possibly touched yours), which resulted in someone else stating they clients have the right to be fat and old WITHOUT criticism, because they’re paying customers. My point (which will not change), is this: Regardless of whether you’re a paying customer or not, the eyes don’t lie. Further, you don’t get the right to impose standards on others that you can’t meet yourself. So if you’re a hiring client who is attractive, good for you. if you’re a hiring client who is fat and old, have some humility and show some respect for those who choose to have you as a client, as your money doesn’t not relinquish you from meeting general standards of attraction either. And if a client entertains you in spite of this, be grateful.

So basically, you’re stating that a paying customer can have the highest of standards, but the provider of that service, should have NO standards? Guess what? Professionals of any type also have the right to have standards, evaluate their clients and not exactly accept what’s presented to them…. 1.) professional waxers can (and will), turn down clients with poor hygiene…(there’s been a surge in videos all over social media this) 2.) A dentist can discontinue services with a client who refuses to follow protocol and advisement on the care of their teeth can gums 3.) An auto-mechanic can turn town service to a client who makes no effort on vehicle maintenance, which can cause a liability to the shop owners if there’s a dispute on who’s “at fault”, if a major issue arises. 4.) a hairdresser can critique and refuse service to an incoming customer who has headlice , ring worms, or any other infection that could impact the sanitation of their equipment and facility. In turn, masseurs and escorts have the right to be picky as they choose, and the mind set that “they’re providing the service”, therefore ALL of the requirements or presentation falls on them, is unacceptable, and shows the sense of self-delusion that many guys on this site have. let’s think of the EMPATHY that these guys hive dealing with many of these clients, extending beyond being fat or old: 1.) Bad, rancid breath (but demand kissing as a requirement) 2.) Poor hygiene (coming to an appointment without being freshly showered, dingle-berries, rancid feet and pits, etc.etc.) 3.) Incel-ish personalities which completely turn off everyone. So with much of the crap that these guys have to deal with, just to entertain many guys who wouldn’t get anyone to even touch them unless they’re being paid, some consideration should go both ways.

Wait a minute….. @pubic_assistanceis extremely blunt (and at times intentionally obnoxious 😎), but at the least, he is universally fair and operates on logic. Why can’t he call the men who hire escorts and masseurs “old” and “fat”, when the same guys will be on this forum critiquing escorts and masseurs for having the smallest “flaws” in their appearance? Nothing cracks me up more than seeing wrinkly, old, and fat coots in the forums ripping escorts and masseurs to shreds on their appearance : “Oh, he's gained a few pounds…”, “The structural alignment of his cheekbones are off… don’t hire.” “He’s a fraud, his dick measures at 8.36 inches and not the 9 inches advertised.” The thought that many of these men literally look like the embodiment of Lindsey Graham naked (with ladybugs and all) , yet can dish out the critiques, but can’t take it. Hipocrisy is a stench that permeates sites like this. That’s for sure.

I love transparency. Those who have the opportunity to get it, should be grateful. I had a similar experience, as my local gym chain attracts gays, especially masseurs and escorts. Last summer, there were at least four guys from R—Masseur working out regularly. One guy looked at me as if I were a piece of garbage. He just gave me absolute stankness, just in passing. Once other dude asked me to spot him and the other one I had no contact with at all. But then the fourth one came into the steam room one night while I was there. He started at me, and then flashed me and started jerking off. Nothing happened as some straight guy ended up coming in. I made a note to myself to book him later in the month. I did, and my mileage varied very well. So in the end, don’t be annoyed when a guy reveals his true preferences as you could be saving yourself from a terrible experience, or guaranteeing yourself an outstanding one 😎.

The entire paradigm is different. its expected for women to request deposits, to ensure that the John isn’t the cops and to ensure they’ll get paid. When the John arrives, it’s expected for him to pay up front too. With guys, those who usually request deposits are scammers and payment up front is also sketchy. With women, it’s important for them to ask questions to protect them from predatory Johns. With guys, they don’t ask many questions as it could possibly spook the potential John out as he’ll think it’s a sting operation, and a lot of men are married and DL , and want strict privacy, almost to the point of anonymity. Also, with men, the workers are probably prepared for a crazy guy, as he may be crazy too!! 😂, so everything is evened out with his physical safety risks.

For many men, cars are a status symbol and reflect their personalities. no different than how women see purses as status symbols.

Grindr in itself is plagued with danger, even with regular hookups, so any other paid service from there would seem sketchy to me. Stay away from hiring from Grindr.

Simple Issue/Simple Solution. If an escort asks for a picture and you don’t want to send one, don’t send one. Move on.

Most guys are ageist, until they get old. lol. once they are on the receiving end of ageism, they are suddenly insulted and appalled. 😂

Life (regardless of sexual orientation) happens in phases. The key to succeeding in each phase is to prepare, and adjust expectations. Youth is temporary and is a fleeting phase that has many forks in the road to choose from. For any man or woman to expect to be lusted after and “paid attention to” over the age of 40, in the same way that they were at 20, is delusional and unrealistic. I’m 46 and could care less about attracting younger men, or being a sex symbol. I took care of all of that during the time I was supposed to. In the cases where people do flirt with me, and show me attraction, I’m pleasantly flattered, take it as that, and move on. People need to grow up.

Experimentation, assessment of variables and constants, combined with logic usually works. 😎

A “Good-Tease”? is that an oxymoron?

None of these guys are new. They all fall under the same formula: 1.) Attractive 2.) Exotic 3.) unskilled You’ll more than likely have a lackluster experience (on a bed), from a cute guy who is shorter than his description on his profile.

Hey Guys, Although I haven’t booked a massage from CL in a while, I occasionally peruse the site. Has anyone had any experience with this guy? https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/hws/d/fairfax-one-stop-services-for-gentlemen/7916050152.html

I just downloaded the Mr.Number app. The phone number that I used to communicate with masseurs, comes up as “Spam”, which is expected, as it’s an anonymous phone number. However, I entered my “real” phone number and it generated my FULL government name. I’ll make sure to never use that number again (I haven’t in years, but will continue not too)

Possibly. I could be a bit unrealistic, but all I think it takes is to porn performers to collectively unite and reject work with studios until more negotiable rates are paid. They have more power than they realize. On another perspective, we (the customer) do this all the time. when escorts and masseurs’ rates are a bit exorbitant, the customer will stop hiring him. once those bookings drop, eventually his rates drop too.

Not suggesting they gouge studios. A studio will pay a performer (at the highest), $1,000 per scene. Once that scene is posted, the studios make money from it just about Everytime it’s streamed. Once it lands in compilations, the studios makes even more money. If it’s posted on a site like PornHub, the studio then makes more money from the ads alone. What I’m suggesting is that the performers demand equitable pay, or at least have contractual royalties for their scenes. The porn studios fiscally exploit their performers, which is why many of them went to Only Fans to have better control of their careers and earnings.

Porn performers will do a scene for as low as $300 (and as high as $1000), for a multi-million dollar production company, knowing that the company will make continued revenues off of that scene forever. Yet will charge a customer $1,000 for a “one and done” session. Their demands are misguided. Demand higher pay in your porn contracts, so that you don’t have to supplement the pay disparity by price gouging escorting services.

Greetings Gents, Has anyone tried this guy? https://rentmasseur.com/NWMassage

Thank You!!! Those are the guys who lurk and want to benefit from everyone else’s experiences but never take the plunge to seek out the experiences themselves or share.

Can you share with us the questions you’re asking these masseurs?

Spot on!!! In addition to rearranging themselves in the sauna or steam room, some do what I call the “Sharon Stone -Basic Instinct” move where they open their legs, showing you ALL the goods under the towel.

Trust me, I’m not…. lol…. To be fair, these things don’t happen to me frequently. I just may have lucked up with some guy having that post-workout hormone boost….

This is a very tricky matter as some “signals” can be misinterpreted. I’ve had some bold things happen to me in the locker room, and some subtle things…. There was the time a dude was playing under his towel, staring at me in the steam room. I gave him a nod and a smile to acknowledge his flirting. The “bold” part was when I went to take a shower. That guy quickly hopped in my shower stall and started jacking off. He scared the crap out of me. Another bold moment was when I was changing my clothes at my locker. This guy comes up to locker next to mine to take off his workout clothes As I’m sitting down to put on and tie my shoes, he removes his briefs first, then takes forever to remove his socks and shirt. As his dick is swinging closely to my face, it’s growing and getting hard. He’s so close, I can smell his “pheromones”. He then stares at me then walks off to the shower, and takes his dirty clothes with him. His locker was never beside mine. Apparently, he wanted to flash me. Another instance was not in the locker room, but the actual weight room. This dude is benching, with shorts on with NO underwear. As I’m doing cable work not too far from him, I see his balls. I think nothing of it and move on to the next machine. This guy then positions himself to the machine right in front of me. When he sees other people, he closes his legs. When the area is empty, he opens them, and his balls and the head of his penis are out. I finally gave him eye contact, and when I did, his dick jumped and got more erect. I was usually caught off-guard, as I’m definitely not a guy that anyone would (or should) even look twice at in a gym…