Monarchy79

Our culture is not more “coarse” than it’s been before. The cycle of where you stand in this social paradigm changes. When the changes come, many guys go from being the “rejector”, to the “rejectee”. This is when the “A-list” twink (Or a “body gurl” ) was an ultra-bitch in his prime, he thought nothing of it. He’d laugh at and reject (with pride and vigor), the old, the fat, and the “unattractive”…And he’d get a kick out of humiliating them. It’s when he’s aged out of desirability, and the new crop of “A-List” twinks reject him, and make it clear that he “can’t sit with them”. That he suddenly has a moral ground of decency towards mankind and how people should be “respectfully”acknowledged.

Ummm…. I’ve seen many of instances in bars & clubs where some naive guy approached a dude and the dude either directly turned his back to him, or flat out ignored him, in public… in front of everyone. Although apps and social media give more room for poor social behavior, don’t think that people aren’t just as nasty and vile in person. The reason why so many guys like apps is because it protects them from much of the in-person humiliation of rejection that can take place in person. Being blocked or ghosted is far easier to one’s ego/self-esteem than being flat out rejected in-person.

Stop caring about what people you don’t know think and feel about you. There are millions of guys in hook up apps… if there are those who ignore your messages, who cares?

This situation is very simple. You’re making it far more complicated…. 1.) Escorts are paid professionals . They have the general expectation NOT to be attracted to their clients. 2.) Hook up apps are for “free”, non-transactional encounters (unless the individual states they are “working.”) Escorts have lives outside of work and may be on a hookup site for their own “non transactional” entertainment. When you saw the potential hire on Grindr, you simply “rolled the dice”, hoping that you’d get a free encounter with this guy. As he’s not “working”, his attraction to you became a relevant factor in your communications because he’s now seeking a hookup to HIS satisfaction. From this lost gamble, you now know he isn’t remotely attracted to you, and you’re now leery of hiring him as there is no longer a myth or illusion you can hide behind on your desirability. You BOTH will be clear that if you hire him, he’s performing a task, that’s it and that’s all. The fact that you have this hard truth will kill the vibe if you ever hire him. Move on, consider this a lesson learned and make sure not to contact potential hires on hookup sites, unless you’re prepared for unfiltered truths.

One of my favorite masseurs left DC this year too. I’m truly sad about it.

Why be on Grindr at all if you expect to not get favorable outcomes from it?

And a lack of social ineptitude.

Marijuana isn’t the “star” of the show when it comes to PNP, “Tina” Turner is… Alcohol, Marijuana, Cocaine, Ecstasy, Ketamine, and others are either background singers or part of the band….. In a nutshell, Crystal Meth is the drug that’s the “P” in PNP, yet most party junkies like a variety, so the other drugs may be present…

Facts. And guys who are “ growers”, especially hate nude environments. There has been an extreme obsession with penis size that has gotten to a point where it crosses sexual orientation. Go to a gym and change clothes and strip bare and you’ll find many men of all background either staring are your dick, or intentionally flashing theirs. I’ll admit that I’m one of those “towel” guys that nudists seem to hate. However, for a week, I decided to let it all out…. Strip down after my workout, throw the towel over my shoulder and walk to the shower butterball naked. This guy whose locker was always near mine, literally started at my dick the entire time. And the whole vibe he gave was “Finally!! I finally got to see your dick!!” it was cringey as hell. Oh, and now he strikes up a conversation with me every time he sees me. People would be more comfortable naked, if others had more social grace and didn’t ogle and stare at others so aggressively.

That’s a “hold”, but not a deposit. They will only charge a fee to the customer for a no show, but will not charge for a deposit in these cases.

I should go to the “Questions about Hiring” forum as ask escorts if they would take business from potential clients if they knew they were white collar criminals or registered sex offenders. I pose this comment to make the point that the clients have just as “if not more” potential to be harmful and dangerous than the actual professionals. Keep in mind that these are the workers who sometimes entertain the incels, the unattractive, the degenerate, the mentally ill, the socially inept, and many of whom has past histories of crime and issues. What blows my mind is that the professionals operate with more understanding and less judgment.

Would you all judge the guy if he was in prison for….. prostitution? 😎

@Simon Suraci made one critical valid point (out of many as I agreed with all that he posted), which was this: Stop being lured by the “Hot” guy, on those massage sites. I’ve been saying this for years, and I’ve never fell for the “hot” guy. There’s a method to it, as he’s not saying to pick guys you are absolutely repulsed by. it’s about fusing in looks, with potential, and skill , mixed with reality. Here are some realities: 1.) A guy that is so “hot”, that he could give an instagram model or only fans performer a run for their money, is going to charge TOP DOLLAR and NOT give you any massage with skill or beyond anything therapeutic, because he doesn’t have to. His collateral is solely in his looks and nothing else. 2.) The “Hot” guy wants your money, but doesn’t want to work for it. He doesn’t want to perform escort services because he only wants to play with guys who look like him, but he has no other redeemable skills to earn money, so “massage” is the other alternative. If he can make $300 for an hour of slathering cheap baby oil on some poor, naive sucker, without having to do anything else, he’s “won”. 3.) The “Hot” guy is playing into your fantasies only. He knows the value of his looks and his only mission is to capitalize off if. Being on a gay massage site, selling therapeutic massage, is the perfect niche of shaping false expectations, with innuendo. It’s the easiest way to snooker a lust-hungry man who seeks the fulfillment of being with a super “hot” guy. Here are some red flags of the type of guys on these sites who will snooker you: 1.) “perfect” , “hot” photos where they are perfection in its purest. instagram model style. 2.) excessive travel. Nothing but high-class vagabond hustlers. 3.) Ethnic descriptions such as “Arab”, Mediterranean”, or “mixed”. they are the biggest hustlers and teases.

Amen!!! If a group of “gurl” friends want to hang out and cackle, go to BRUNCH not a damn bath house. As a matter of fact, not even brunch… a drag brunch.

This dude is not gay. At all.

Correct. She said something along the lines of “let me see that handsome smile of yours”, and he snatched off that mask and started grinning…. He totally forgot that cameras could capture his image. He didn’t think to say: “look, I’m concerned about the next wave of COVID and my immune system is already compromised, can I take my mask off in a more private area? (Then search for cameras…) but with most murders, it’s the smallest thing that’s unaccounted for, that cracks the case…

I’m not disagreeing with you. My posting was to point out that both men are similar in character. And based on what you just stated, both men are privileged too. One was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and the other was an inside trading money-hungry (at the expense of the sick and suffering) CEO.

You want to know what I think is even more sociopathic? Creating AI to automatically (and rapidly) deny patient insurance claims, in bulk.

All it takes is one good data breach to leak all of the full IDs and victims identities to be stolen. Then leaking the only fans pages subscribers patronize.

The sad part about this case is that this dude would have never gotten caught if he didn’t take off that mask to flirt with some random woman. It’s the smallest things that will sink a man.

People are self-absorbed, inconsiderate ass-WHOLES, regardless of the political environment. Human nature always supersedes any other factor that is assumed to impact how people behave… which includes politics, economy, and the environment.

Here’s another issue.. A lot of guys who are on gay sites and offer only therapeutic massage, just aren’t that good at it. If they were, they wouldn’t be on those site to net clients because they wouldn’t have to. They’d be right on MASSAGEfinder, with their shirts on. My favorite therapeutic massage therapist is gay, has a major gay following, advertises independently, and doesn’t go near the gay sites. His clients respect his work, because he’s just that good. The hard truth in the massage business is that it has a lot of hustlers. Many of them are hot guys who want the cash, don’t have the skills to give a really good massage, but don’t want to escort either… so they find this “sweet spot” of innuendo, mixed with labeling themselves as therapeutic. What their clients usually end up with are false hopes + muddled expectations + a set of blue balls, which = Getting Snookered.

Big NAY. If a provider is strictly therapeutic, then be on a general site (or create your own site), that generally confirms that the services are therapeutic only. But to be on a site like MasseurFinder, be scantily clothed, with pictures that allude to everything EXCEPT for therapeutic massage is intentionally misleading.

The term musky & musty are used interchangeably, depending on who’s using it. Both imply that the individual has a scent /“pheremone” fetish.

The male physique is a wonder of the world. Seeing a man with a properly proportioned body, with a nice, firm butt (regardless of his sexual position) is a great thing.