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Yeah, now I know. But again I guess this is where straight and gay norms differ since straight women escorts apparently always demand payment upfront.

Some thoughtful feedback. You and many others gave it. Just being a piece of shit and stepping on someone over and over again is totally uncalled for.

And I guess the same is true of assholes being assholes

Yeah, I can tell from your eye roll emoji how full of wisdom you are too

He told me that AFTER he took my money, which he demanded first.

Not particularly. Why is this more of a risk than any other escort? Any escort could do this to you. Even escorts with reviews. My main stupidity was giving him the money up front, I think. Though apparently with straight escorts that is standard practice.

It’s a good question. The thing is other scammers ask for a deposit. In this he came all the way to me and met me in person on my turf. I honestly didn’t think scammers would take that kind of risk. I didn’t report him to Grindr because it probably would have gotten my profile banned too.

I think your prediction is exactly right. As far as his age, it’s hard to say. He looked young, but on his profile it said he was 21. He could have been anywhere in that range honestly.

Haha, I wish I had had even half that much presence of mind! Part of it was that I didn’t know if he was a member of some weird gang that would come back to bother me if I pressed the issue. super unlikely, but I think this was in the back of my mind.

Thanks, this actually made me feel better

Have any actually useful thoughts?

I know I've been extremely stupid, but I'd still like some feedback. So I approached someone on grindr; they asked if I was gen. I said yes. We negotiated a price of $300. He came over, asked for the money before we began -- I gave it. He kept saying he was nervous. Then he claimed to be 17, and was this ok with me? He said his father was outside in a car. This is a state where 17 is underage for sex. He sort of suggested that he might be ok doing something if I was ok with it, but he wouldn't even sit down, because he was so "nervous." I asked for the money back -- even offered him $100 for his trouble. He said no, and that we were free to call the police, that he had all the texts to show I was trying to pay for sex. I'm not sure he would have followed up on it. He seemed like this little hispanic kid who might have more to lose from the police than me. But I didn't want to chance it. I let him walk away with all the money. Incredible. (Edit: btw I had met another guy on grindr and the transaction worked out just fine)

What are people's experiences with them? Good? Bad? Do you agree on rates and exact actions before doing anything, or just sort of tip what you feel is appropriate after? Any safety tips other than meet first in a public place?

Do people hire anywhere else? On Grindr, for example? If so, how does that work? Or are there other sites that I don't know about?

I asked for one and he sent me a pic -- who knows if it was really him -- via expiring message on Whatsapp