jazeboy Posted October 31, 2024 Posted October 31, 2024 I am curious to know your thoughts on paying a provider when he also ends up having a good time. Especially if I want to arrange a second meeting. I rented a masseur and ended up blowing him ... which he seemed to really enjoy. (I did too, don't get me wrong!) NYXboy, Moke, pubic_assistance and 2 others 4 1
56harrisond Posted October 31, 2024 Posted October 31, 2024 20 minutes ago, jazeboy said: I am curious to know your thoughts on paying a provider... I support paying a provider. thomas, Moke, + FrankR and 9 others 2 6 4
Trick Posted October 31, 2024 Posted October 31, 2024 I’m not paying for a provider to be happy. I’m paying for the satisfaction of knowing someone like me can make a man happy. + Just Chuck, + sam.fitzpatrick, Saabster and 11 others 7 1 2 4
MtnVwGuy Posted October 31, 2024 Posted October 31, 2024 Sounds like it was a good experience, and worth repeating — but he’ll certainly expect to be paid the next time around, if that’s what you’re asking. Your Man in Arlington, Moke, + sam.fitzpatrick and 6 others 4 4 1
+ Jamie21 Posted October 31, 2024 Posted October 31, 2024 He’s done his job. Of course he’ll want paying. Just because he enjoyed it doesn’t mean you don’t have to pay him! I enjoy all my client sessions (and if I don’t they wouldn’t be able to tell…) but I still expect to be paid! Johnrom, + robear, + ApexNomad and 10 others 6 5 2
marylander1940 Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 2 hours ago, jazeboy said: I am curious to know your thoughts on paying a provider when he also ends up having a good time. Especially if I want to arrange a second meeting. I rented a masseur and ended up blowing him ... which he seemed to really enjoy. (I did too, don't get me wrong!) There's some acting involved in the business. Some escorts / masseurs like some clients more than others because of compatibility, looks, etc. Something wrong if he generally had a good time with you and maybe not the others? We don't hire slaves we want to respect them also. You called someone for a massage and you ended up giving him head, always the same issue with masseurs about how far they will go. Shawn Monroe, aiseeya, Luv2play and 1 other 3 1
+ BOZO T CLOWN Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 (edited) Are you suggesting paying a provider less, or not paying him at all, if, in your opinion, he had a good time? Is this a serious question? BTC Edited November 1, 2024 by BOZO T CLOWN + azdr0710, jeffla, Shawn Monroe and 15 others 5 6 7
pubic_assistance Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 3 hours ago, jazeboy said: I am curious to know your thoughts on paying a provider when he also ends up having a good time. You've hit the jackpot. Pay that guy / tip him well / call him often. Your Man in Arlington, la_connor, MikeBiDude and 17 others 5 1 11 3
marylander1940 Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 6 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said: Are you suggesting paying a provider less, or not paying him at all, if, in your opinion, he had a good time? Is this a serious question? BTC I think he suggesting that if he's that good maybe he should get it for free. polythome, pubic_assistance, + DrownedBoy and 2 others 1 1 3
pubic_assistance Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 (edited) 11 hours ago, marylander1940 said: I think he suggesting that if he's that good maybe he should get it for free. Ridiculous! When i was younger, I'd been told more than once that I was the "best sex" somebody's ever had.... ...years later, I've been with more than one provider who's clearly enjoying themselves.... ...But at NO point have I ever lost track of the fact that I hired this person and this is THEIR job ! REALITY CHECK TIME Edited November 1, 2024 by pubic_assistance spelling Whippoorwill, + Jamie21, + Pensant and 10 others 3 9 1
FaustOust Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 2 hours ago, Jamie21 said: I enjoy all my client sessions (and if I don’t they wouldn’t be able to tell…) Why do you think your clients are unable to tell that you are not enjoying something? It seems you can tell whether they are enjoying themselves, why can’t they discern the same? Ali Gator 1
jazeboy Posted November 1, 2024 Author Posted November 1, 2024 Thanks for all the comments. Just for clarification: I was not suggesting anything, I was just asking an honest question. I paid (of course!) (and tipped well also). I had a great time ... pubic_assistance is right! Just now, pubic_assistance said: You've hit the jackpot. + Jamie21, pubic_assistance, thomas and 2 others 1 4
BuffaloKyle Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, jazeboy said: I am curious to know your thoughts on paying a provider when he also ends up having a good time. Especially if I want to arrange a second meeting. I rented a masseur and ended up blowing him ... which he seemed to really enjoy. (I did too, don't get me wrong!) I understand what you mean. That for a provider to lay back and get a great BJ and get paid on top of it is a sweet gig. That's why I stick to guys who will take around $200 - $250 just for that. If I'm paying over $300+ then I am looking for way more. But since we're paying it's gonna be a guy hopefully way hotter than anyone we can get for free. Edited November 1, 2024 by BuffaloKyle + DrownedBoy, jazeboy, + keroscenefire and 1 other 4
marylander1940 Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said: Ridiculous! Qhen i was younger, I've been told more than once that I was the "best sex" somebody's ever had.... ...and I've been with more than one provider who's clearly enjoying themselves.... ...But at NO point have I ever lost track of the fact that I hired this person and this is THEIR job ! REALITY CHECK TIME Agreed! pubic_assistance 1
Guest Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, jazeboy said: I am curious to know your thoughts on paying a provider when he also ends up having a good time. Especially if I want to arrange a second meeting. I rented a masseur and ended up blowing him ... which he seemed to really enjoy. (I did too, don't get me wrong!) huh? Why wouldn't you pay a provider to begin with? I enjoy (or try to enjoy) virtually all of my sessions, that's the point. We're two consenting adults having fun. Edited November 1, 2024 by BodeBrentwood
Simon Suraci Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 (edited) Whether we providers genuinely enjoy the experience is irrelevant. The question is: did YOU enjoy the experience? If so, pay the guy and see him often. He’s providing a high level of value to you. Reciprocate that value to him. A client hired me for an overnight recently. Given, this was not for massage although he does like some massage time, but that’s beside the point. We have a good long time rapports going and it works because we both understand the transactional nature of the relationship, respect the boundaries, and yet have a great time together anyway. It’s possible to be genuine and still provide a professional service. For example, while he was fucking me, he hit just the right spot and we stayed in that position for a while me riding him, and it gave me a non-ejaculatory orgasm lasting for a solid few minutes. I didn’t hold back at all. My voice, breath, expression, and demeanor matched the intensity of my feelings. It was amazing! I usually am the one fucking him for most or all of the session, and it was refreshing to switch roles for a bit. I wasn’t acting at all while I enjoyed myself in that moment. He told me later that it’s important to him that I am genuinely enjoying myself too and that he appreciated me sharing moments like that with him. For some clients, an important element of value we provide is to actually enjoy the experience, which in turn gratifies the client. You can’t buy that on a hookup app. Acting is part of the job. Once in a while, I truly have to ‘act’ and I don’t like it, but I do it. I can’t genuinely be in ecstasy at every moment with every client. That’s unrealistic. I may not even enjoy the experience at all, but who’s to say? Fortunately I have very few clients where that is 100% true. I like to play up the moments I am enjoying and play down the moments I don’t enjoy as much. That way, it’s more an augmentation of reality rather than a false reality. With most clients I find something about them and/or what we are doing together that I like and I focus on that. It’s often multiple things. In that way, it’s not acting as much as it is focusing. It takes an experienced savvy provider to walk this line well. A while ago a client gave me one of the best blowjobs. Top 10, easy. And you don’t want to know how many BJs I’ve had from how many different men over my life. It would make us both blush. It’s difficult to find men who give truly excellent head. Plenty of so-so, decently proficient, and lots of really bad head out there. So when I come across a rare encounter with a truly skilled man, I relish the experience. I thought to myself in the moment, “I should be paying him!” And then I snapped out of it and remembered that everything about the experience is on his terms, for his benefit. We meet when he wants, do the things he likes, the way he wants, for as long as he wants, and I am not dictating any of it for my own pleasure. I’m doing everything for his ultimate gratification. My reward is monetary. Any pleasure I get out of it is incidental. So whether your provider enjoys the session or not - and whether you CARE if he enjoys the session or not - he is giving you what you want. Passive or active, he is delivering value to you on your terms. And at the end of the day, if he genuinely likes it, wouldn’t this be a nice bonus for you both? And if he’s acting, wouldn’t you rather not know? Pay your professional providers. Tip them. Hire them frequently. And please ….clients…. stop overthinking his level of enjoyment or lack thereof. Focus on YOURS! Edited November 1, 2024 by Simon Suraci TruHart1, MikeBiDude, Erbenle and 21 others 5 1 1 3 14
Bjjx Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 I like blowjobs but it says it can be cancerous of course STI ,so I just prefer hugging,kissing,and just looking at the dick ,I also lost my libido Luv2play, + KensingtonHomo, + DrownedBoy and 2 others 2 3
+ PhileasFogg Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 (edited) It is as good to give than receive. You’re paying for his time. The hands on a clock only go one way. Edited November 1, 2024 by PhileasFogg pubic_assistance, jazeboy, polythome and 2 others 1 1 3
+ Jamie21 Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 6 hours ago, FaustOust said: Why do you think your clients are unable to tell that you are not enjoying something? It seems you can tell whether they are enjoying themselves, why can’t they discern the same? Because it’s my job. + Drew Collins, Shawn Monroe, thomas and 7 others 2 8
tazmanian5230 Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 9 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said: Are you suggesting paying a provider less, or not paying him at all, if, in your opinion, he had a good time? Is this a serious question? BTC Feel like i heard this question before 🤣 🤣 Shawn Monroe and + BOZO T CLOWN 2
+ ApexNomad Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 7 hours ago, Simon Suraci said: Whether we providers genuinely enjoy the experience is irrelevant. The question is: did YOU enjoy the experience? If so, pay the guy and see him often. He’s providing a high level of value to you. Reciprocate that value to him. A client hired me for an overnight recently. Given, this was not for massage although he does like some massage time, but that’s beside the point. We have a good long time rapports going and it works because we both understand the transactional nature of the relationship, respect the boundaries, and yet have a great time together anyway. It’s possible to be genuine and still provide a professional service. For example, while he was fucking me, he hit just the right spot and we stayed in that position for a while me riding him, and it gave me a non-ejaculatory orgasm lasting for a solid few minutes. I didn’t hold back at all. My voice, breath, expression, and demeanor matched the intensity of my feelings. It was amazing! I usually am the one fucking him for most or all of the session, and it was refreshing to switch roles for a bit. I wasn’t acting at all while I enjoyed myself in that moment. He told me later that it’s important to him that I am genuinely enjoying myself too and that he appreciated me sharing moments like that with him. For some clients, an important element of value we provide is to actually enjoy the experience, which in turn gratifies the client. You can’t buy that on a hookup app. Acting is part of the job. Once in a while, I truly have to ‘act’ and I don’t like it, but I do it. I can’t genuinely be in ecstasy at every moment with every client. That’s unrealistic. I may not even enjoy the experience at all, but who’s to say? Fortunately I have very few clients where that is 100% true. I like to play up the moments I am enjoying and play down the moments I don’t enjoy as much. That way, it’s more an augmentation of reality rather than a false reality. With most clients I find something about them and/or what we are doing together that I like and I focus on that. It’s often multiple things. In that way, it’s not acting as much as it is focusing. It takes an experienced savvy provider to walk this line well. A while ago a client gave me one of the best blowjobs. Top 10, easy. And you don’t want to know how many BJs I’ve had from how many different men over my life. It would make us both blush. It’s difficult to find men who give truly excellent head. Plenty of so-so, decently proficient, and lots of really bad head out there. So when I come across a rare encounter with a truly skilled man, I relish the experience. I thought to myself in the moment, “I should be paying him!” And then I snapped out of it and remembered that everything about the experience is on his terms, for his benefit. We meet when he wants, do the things he likes, the way he wants, for as long as he wants, and I am not dictating any of it for my own pleasure. I’m doing everything for his ultimate gratification. My reward is monetary. Any pleasure I get out of it is incidental. So whether your provider enjoys the session or not - and whether you CARE if he enjoys the session or not - he is giving you what you want. Passive or active, he is delivering value to you on your terms. And at the end of the day, if he genuinely likes it, wouldn’t this be a nice bonus for you both? And if he’s acting, wouldn’t you rather not know? Pay your professional providers. Tip them. Hire them frequently. And please ….clients…. stop overthinking his level of enjoyment or lack thereof. Focus on YOURS! This is perfect!!! For me, maybe I’m old school, it’s nonetheless important to feel like the provider is genuinely happy and enjoying himself because it makes the experience - for me - that much richer. THAT SAID, if he isn’t for any reason, then I expect the greatest performance of his life, one that leaves no room for doubt—because that’s what I’m paying for! Too often, I see people approaching this with insecurity, thinking, “I could never have that” or “I could never satisfy someone like that.” But we need to move beyond that mindset. This isn’t a relationship; it’s a transaction where both parties bring value. Everyone has preferences, but that’s irrelevant here—this is about fulfilling a specific need, in that specific moment, for however long you’ve booked. Luv2play, CastaDiva, jackcali and 5 others 1 5 2
DznNYC Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 8 hours ago, Simon Suraci said: And please ….clients…. stop overthinking his level of enjoyment or lack thereof. Focus on YOURS! Yes, THIS!! This is one of the great potential joys of a client/provider relationship. You have the gift of being able to fully free yourself of the pressure of wondering if your provider is having fun. It's a situation inherently structured around you getting exactly what you want in a zero judgement safe space. Are you harming your provider or causing undue discomfort? No? Then don't worry about it. Also, consider that maybe some of us are wired differently. Some of us are drawn to being providers because our sexual joy comes from providing. If you can relax, let go, and enjoy feeling like a king for couple hours... that's when your provider truly enjoys himself. (Fully ignoring the kooky implication that you only pay providers for things they don't enjoy. That's bonkers.) Shawn Monroe, mike carey, + ApexNomad and 5 others 1 4 3
soloyo215 Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 14 hours ago, jazeboy said: I am curious to know your thoughts on paying a provider when he also ends up having a good time. Especially if I want to arrange a second meeting. I rented a masseur and ended up blowing him ... which he seemed to really enjoy. (I did too, don't get me wrong!) Why does liking and enjoying your job have to influence anything? You really expect people to be miserable at work? So he liked it. Is he not supposed to? Not sure what that's supposed to change. Shawn Monroe and Simon Suraci 2
+ KensingtonHomo Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 15 minutes ago, DamizzonNYC said: Also, consider that maybe some of us are wired differently. Some of us are drawn to being providers because our sexual joy comes from providing. If you can relax, let go, and enjoy feeling like a king for couple hours... that's when your provider truly enjoys himself. I want to build on what @DamizzonNYC and @Jamie21 have suggested. To me, emotionally intelligent people, whether they are clients or providers, can read the signals of genuine enjoyment. I get off on being desired, and I can tell when someone is phoning it in. Now, that desire doesn't mean they find my body (which is sexy but not that of a 25-year-old) the most appealing. It may mean that, as DamizzonNYC said, they enjoy giving people pleasure. Or, for providers we see regularly, we've built a rapport that transcends physicality. Since because we grew up in an anti-sex society, many of us get hung up on the sex part. When I see my trainer, I'm paying them to help me work out but we also have chemistry and enjoy each others company. And I'm paying them for their time and expertise. thome55, + Just Sayin and + Jamie21 1 2
+ DrownedBoy Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 I understand that the client has no obligation to get a paid provider off, but if you make the decision to get him off, that's your choice. If he liked it that much, it's his choice on what to say or do. + Just Chuck 1
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