What are your red flags?

[rvwnsd]

1 hour ago, top_guy_atl said:

For me, the existence of a link to a twitter page in a RM ad is a red flag.  Nine out of ten times the content on the twitter page is enough to gross me out or ruin the fantasy image I had created in my head.  I will probably pass if I see any mention of a OF page.

I understand taking a pass on hiring someone when their ad mentions an OF page. It seems like such ads are placed to drive business to the OF page and not to see clients in person. (At least that's been my experience.) However, the presence of a link to a Twitter page is a head-scratcher. Can you simply not click on the link if Twitter pages ruin the fantasy for you?

A big red flag for me is when a profile spends line after line telling prospective clients what not to do or say and devotes little or no space to what the escort actually does. "Ask me" doesn't alarm me, but "I won't tell you anything about me" does.

[Lazarus]

Someone who keeps referring to me as “handsome” in a text when they have no idea what I look like. 

[+ glutes]

On 6/27/2023 at 2:38 PM, handiacefailure said:

   Also when they have photos that haven't bee updated inthe last year and have been on RM for a long time with no reviews

Last year?

You're being too kind.

[+ DrownedBoy]

21 hours ago, nycman said:

Yep, any OF reference is an automatic "no" for me.

I've texted a handful of RM who immediately sent me a link for their OF account. Likewise, I've encountered automated responses that do the same thing.

Both of those will kill any interest for me. I'll overlook OF mentioned in an ad if it's not front and center. There's nothing wrong with a true escort making money on the side, but there are OF teases out there.

[KennF]

On 6/24/2023 at 6:38 AM, Wolfer said:

Another red flag is last minute plan changes. Any time an escort has asked me (quite last minute) to push back the start time (sometimes even by an hour!) or, more recently, told me he'd be hosting at a completely different address at the other side of the city than the one initially confirmed, it's never been a good session. 

The last time this happened I just canceled the session, even though I did not have other plans and would have been able to accommodate the difference. But my mood had been so soured that I wouldn't have been able to enjoy it anyway. To top it off the provider got annoyed with me for not agreeing to the (very last minute) change in plans without even apologizing to me. 

I've had the same initial reaction.  And recently had a last minute change of plans.  The provider asked to push it back a couple of hours.

The difference for me was he was willing to meet the original time and asked a favor after explaining his reason.  In return, I offered a different day/time or the original.  He agreed to the alternative and thanked me.  The encounter with him on the new appointment was FANTASTIC. 

We were communicating and had developed a rapport.  That made all the difference.

[KennF]

21 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

I agree. Anyone advertising on RentMen should be willing and able to meet in person. That’s the point. Just because someone does OF on the side doesn’t mean they can’t or won’t do in person meets. But I get it, some of them use RentMen as a misplaced advertising platform to plug their exclusively online presence. Clients browse RentMen to hire in person services for the most part. If clients wanted to view OF models on screen, they would go straight to OF. Kind of a waste of everyone’s time if it’s only a glorified ad/link for OF.

Now wondering if Simon has a OF page.  Nah.. don't care... I'll wait for the real thing.  

[CarolinaRen]

I had a bizarre experience several years back in DC, and I wondered at the time if it should have been enough of a red flag for me to have left the guy's place. First, the provider let me know that he had been doing some work on a rental property that he owned, and he was going to be a little bit late, like 30 minutes. This did not bother me.

I got to his place at the new time, and he rang me into his building. His apartment door was cracked. He had texted that he needed to take a quick shower. I went in to the room he texted me to enter and got ready. The water in the shower was running in the bathroom next to the room I was in. The shower kept going and going and going: 10 minutes, 15 minutes, 20 minutes. I didn't know if this was supposed to be some kind of a fantasy where I was supposed to join him in there or what. I just stayed in the room with a towel around me. Finally, after 22 minutes, he came out, dried off, and we started the massage.

The massage was alright, but that was such a strange experience. The whole time I was waiting there, I kept thinking that I should get dressed again and probably leave. I just couldn't understand what in the world he was doing taking such a long shower while I was waiting.

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

A RED flag for Bozo is whenever these words appear in a RM ad:

1. "Upscale"

2. "High class"

3. "....seeking generous men"

BoZo

 

Edited June 30, 2023 by BOZO T CLOWN

[marylander1940]

Red flags

1. attitude
2. PNP
3. list of dos and don'ts 

[+ nycman]

3 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

Considering previous comments, it seems no matter where I tried to promote myself someone would be annoyed at any mention of OF.

I think "annoyed" is the wrong word. More like "concerned that I’m shopping at the wrong store". Although I have very little experience with OF, I’m all for it. It fills a niche for both parties and doesn’t hurt anyone. Unfortunately, people who are used to getting paid for teasing in front of a video camera aren’t necessarily that same ones who are good at getting paid to take it up the ass face down in the pillows from a gentleman of a certain age. 

Couple that with the fact that most OF guys who advertise on RM are doing it to simply drive traffic to their OF page, and not to find gentlemen of a certain age to fuck them like a dog face down in the pillows…well, you get my point. 

[mike carey]

9 minutes ago, nycman said:

Couple that with the fact that most OF guys who advertise on RM are doing it to simply drive traffic to their OF page, and not to find gentlemen of a certain age to fuck them like a dog face down in the pillows…well, you get my point. 

Or indeed, to meet gentlemen of a certain age when a reversal of those roles is contemplated.

[KennF]

3 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

I currently do not. Nor do any other media outlets feature video content of me. That could change in the future. Who knows?! 

Where would you want to hear about it, if I did upload some kind of pay per view or subscription video content? What do you think would be the most appropriate way to share it? Should I post to OF and never link anything to it or advertise it in any way? Include as a sidebar in my other service ads, but not be the focus of the ad? Curious what others would like to see.

Considering previous comments, it seems no matter where I tried to promote myself someone would be annoyed at any mention of OF.

FYI I’m using OF as a catch-all umbrella term that would include OF, JFF, and other similar sites, not just OnlyFans.

As with all marketing and branding,  it is in the messaging.   Someone here or on RM can certainly add to their listed links an icon link for their websites..  where it gets gawdy or detracts from the shoppers intent is where, I think, it goes wrong.

When the verbiage directs you to a pay wall site for info...red flag.  RM is where shoppers go for live interaction, so directing their attention elsewhere is the disconnect.

Directing someone to a scheduling or information site, is good even it shows links for OF.

For me, I might prefer for you to show it to me while we are together, before we slept together.  Hehe

[+ Jamie21]

12 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

I currently do not. Nor do any other media outlets feature video content of me. That could change in the future. Who knows?! 

Where would you want to hear about it, if I did upload some kind of pay per view or subscription video content? What do you think would be the most appropriate way to share it? Should I post to OF and never link anything to it or advertise it in any way? Include as a sidebar in my other service ads, but not be the focus of the ad? Curious what others would like to see.

Considering previous comments, it seems no matter where I tried to promote myself someone would be annoyed at any mention of OF.

FYI I’m using OF as a catch-all umbrella term that would include OF, JFF, and other similar sites, not just OnlyFans.

I have an Onlyfans and a JustforFans, although I don’t promote my ‘in person’ massage work on the fans sites and on my RentMasseur profile and massage website I don’t mention the fans sites. I try to keep them both separate because I think it’s mostly a different market.

However some clients have found the fans sites and made the connection, and some guys who subscribe on the fans sites have booked massages with me. I don’t mind that but overall I think the porn films I make aren’t really reflective of the massage work if that makes sense.

[+ Jamie21]

1 minute ago, Simon Suraci said:

I think this is true more generally of massage scene porn. Porn naturally demands a certain set of criteria, which may be very different from a real, private, in-person massage experience, even if that experience is erotic in nature.

Yes, the massage porn is generally more explicit. The massage work is much more intimate and erotic. It is possible to make massage films that are true to the private in person massage experience but the market for that kind of movie is I think smaller than the kind of films I make which are basically a massage that ends up with someone getting fucked lol. 

[Archangel]

I go to RM to…rent men. If I wanted other social media or another “product” (such as OF, I wouldn’t look on RM. If for some reason I need more photographic or videographic material of a potential escort, I’ll ask and depending then consider based on which platform I’m directed to. I won’t subscribe to OF as a precursor to hiring or discussing hiring. 

[ericwinters]

For me being OLD SKOL, I won't book with a provider unless the can make a call. Even if just to confirm time and place after text.

[Archangel]

5 hours ago, ericwinters said:

For me being OLD SKOL, I won't book with a provider unless the can make a call. Even if just to confirm time and place after text.

Every new escort I hire, I require a telephone call. If we can’t have a few minutes of conversation, then how’s an overnight going to work out?!

[Emir]

 

The "verified" photos:

[Archangel]

@Emir, I’d move on since the head is clearly cut off. And it’s probably cut off because those verified pictures aren’t even his, if he’s real at all.

 I had one guy, early in my dabbling stage, tell me the pictures he posted looked like him although they weren’t him. Pass…

[+ Jamie21]

5 hours ago, Archangel said:

Every new escort I hire, I require a telephone call. If we can’t have a few minutes of conversation, then how’s an overnight going to work out?!

Most clients contact by text or WhatsApp but some (especially older ones) like to call and have a conversation. It’s fine, I answer them if I’m able to but many times I’m not free to take a call. Clients are reluctant to leave a message on my voicemail so I can’t call them back (and I wouldn’t do so anyway without their agreement to receive a return call).

So whilst it’s fine to make a call as the initial contact I’d advise clients to text first because many guys wouldn’t or can’t answer, especially if it’s from a withheld number. If you text and agree a time to call then it’s more likely he’s able to answer it. I really don’t like discussing services with clients whilst I’m on the train or in a social situation and I’m sure I’m not unusual in that.

[Archangel]

@Jamie21, normally I say upfront with a potential new hire that eventually I’ll want a telephone call before settling on a booking.

That said, I will not hire an escort I text who calls me without agreeing to do so. I’ve had several potential escorts uninvited just call during a text exchange. Akin to the train, I’m not always in a place to take a call. Furthermore, in today’s world, it’s pretty common to ask if it’s okay to call if you’re in the middle of a text exchange. So I’ll just dismiss a potential hire if he keeps calling when I tell him I can’t talk in the moment. 

[MCR]

On 4/29/2023 at 1:57 PM, Medin said:

When the provider doesn't answer any of my basic questions such as rate, location, availability. Another is when a provider quotes a rate that is far from local market rates, I stop the conversation.   

 

This is a big red flag for me too. 

[DWnyc]

On 6/28/2023 at 9:00 PM, top_guy_atl said:

For me, the existence of a link to a twitter page in a RM ad is a red flag.  Nine out of ten times the content on the twitter page is enough to gross me out or ruin the fantasy image I had created in my head.  I will probably pass if I see any mention of a OF page.

Get used to more and more of that as time goes on …

I recently had a provider ask if I was ok with filming. First time I’ve been asked in that context (have been asked in hookups a few times before).

 

[Archangel]

11 hours ago, DWnyc said:

I recently had a provider ask if I was ok with filming.

Maybe if I get a share in the proceeds? A collab? 🤔 

[Wolfer]

2 hours ago, Archangel said:

Maybe if I get a share in the proceeds? A collab? 🤔 

There was an interesting exchange I saw on Instagram recently. So I know from Onlyfans creators that models that collab together don't pay each other, because every model gets a new video (new content) for their page that they can sell, making them money that way. 

An Onlyfans creator had messaged a (very sexy) man on social media, asking him to make a video with him. The man, not being an Onlyfans model himself, asked how much the creator would pay him to be part of the video (since the man didn't have an Onlyfans himself where he could sell that video to his own subs, effectively unable to monetize his performance). The creator flipped and went on a tirade on how the man should be grateful someone like him would even ask him and that the man should be paying him to have sex with him.