Have you ever done a freebie for a hot client

[+ WestGuy]

1 hour ago, GTMike said:

Applauding that you and your provider's have situations that seem to be authentic and mutually beneficial and agreeable. Healthy relationships.

Thank you @GTMike!! I am lucky to have found two guys I connect with so well and my relationships with them are important to me, and to them as well.

[Vulgarii]

Hell yeah I have, but I've learned that there's something about clients paying you, that makes it hot or okay for them. Everyone is different but when I offer freebies or just offer to meet and hangout with clients my age, it just doesn't work out. So I've learned to just accept my role and let the guys approach me.

 

[Vulgarii]

On 12/31/2022 at 8:32 AM, 56harrisond said:

When was the last time you asked for and received a discount at your barber, mechanic, or dentist? Umm never. Sex work isn't any different. There shouldn't be a presumption a discount will be offered. If a discount is offered then I guess it's a client's lucky day.

A prospective client approached me and asked if I had a discount. I looked up his phone number and name, and found his social media so told him bluntly "I'm not attracted to you so why the hell would I be erotic for less money?"

[Simon Suraci]

On 12/30/2022 at 9:02 PM, superben said:

I would take this post seriously if escorts actually provided their clients with a receipt or an invoice for monetary transactions at the end of each session and paid taxes on their income like everyone else does. 99% of escorts don't even disclose their real names LOL. So what kind of freakin' income are we talking about here?! To me the "income" that you are referring to is nothing but extra cash that an escort can make through a private, confidential and verbal agreement with another consenting adult, and it is an agreement that often requires a certain flexibility because it is not regulated by anything, it is exclusively based on some sort of honor system. If an escort feels insulted by a client's request for a discount or a different rate, then they should apply for a regular job at a Spa, a hotel or a massage center, where they don't have to worry about negotiating prices and all they have to do is massage their clients for $30 an hour plus taxes without even having to take off their shorts. How does that sound for a reality check? You can't expect to make between $200 and $300 an hour in cash with a job exclusively based on the honor system, not pay a single penny in taxes and think that you're not going to deal with situations during which you have to negotiate with your clients.

Many escorts that I had the pleasure to meet have always been very honest and actually humble enough to realize that. The ones that act as if their shit doesn't stink have always been a big no for me. Especially the ones that ramble about how professional they are or how valuable their time is, in my personal experience they have always proven to be the most unprofessional and awful providers.

I can’t speak for others, but I pay taxes on my income, even cash. It behooves me to prove income for credit reasons. Buying a house, etc. For digital payments, I should note, there is no way of getting around reporting.

[Rudynate]

I dstinctly remember one client or another relating on here that a provider, with whom they had a long-standing relationship, comped a session. In fact, I had a provider comp a session. So it does happen.  I think it's a very rare occurrence - it has only happened to me once and the stories of a provider comping a session are few and far between.  I wouldn't expect providers to be forthcoming with an  answer to a question like this because it asks them to reveal confidential details of their business model.  

[BtmBearDad]

Full disclosure, in the majority of my everyday life, I haggle. Whether it’s over a quoted price, to get something thrown in to sweeten the deal, to adjust terms, etc., it’s all part of the dance so to speak. Part of it is familial indoctrination, (“never pay full price!”), and part is my business life bleeding into my personal life. BUT, in this hobby, I don’t haggle. I know what I’m willing to pay, and if a provider’s fee falls in that range, we’re good. 

I don’t expect a comp from a provider just like I wouldn’t expect one from any other service provider. However, I agree with @BenjaminNicholas when he stated you have to spend money to make money. I’ve had providers pay for dinner, drinks, tickets to events, even received gifts. Granted these were from providers that I had long term relationships with, ones with whom I did things outside the boudoir with. I wouldn’t view any of it as a comp though.

The closest I ever had to a comp was again with a regular provider. We had our session, and we’re just laying there chatting away as one does, I said something jokingly about how I should have arranged for a longer session, he offered he was free and could spend the night, I said I was tempted but not about to get up, get dressed, and go to an ATM, his reply was “don’t worry, I got this”. So we ordered room service, watched some TV, played, and went to sleep. Next time I included that fee but he wouldn’t take it. Thereafter, once in a blue moon, he’d ask to stay again on him. So I guess these handful of times would be a sort of comp. 

As to whether providers waive it all together for the hot clients - I cannot say. I would guess it does happen, but I’d also guess it is far more the exception than the rule. 
 

BBD

[+ sniper]

I've definitely seen ads that offer discounts for student or active duty military and always assumed that was more about the provider figuring they were more likely to be attractive.

[Decatur Guy]

From the client POV: I've never received a freebie, even from providers with whom I've struck up something of a friendship. What I have received from some of them: lower rates than the going average if we meet up periodically. They tell me I'm an easy person to work with, and they know I'm more likely to set more appointments with them if I'm saving 10% to 20%. 

Edited April 25, 2023 by Decatur Guy

[pubic_assistance]

The first time I ever paid someone for a fuck was years ago and I was only about 30. I was out with some gay friends for a birthday celebration. We all ended up at a strip club. One of the performers caught my eye because he was so precisely "MY type."

After his bit...I wanted to get another look at him so I headed to the lounge where I caught his eye. He darted over to me and asked if I wanted a "private show". I wasn't prepared for a "hire" and told him I don't have much cash with me. He asked how much I had...so pulled out my wallet which had about $42 in it. He declared that was enough for a "sample session".

I followed him to a hotel nearby for "my sample". We ended up fucking and sucking for about two hours. Once we were done he told me he didn't want the money ..he just thought I was cute. But I emptied my wallet of my $42 anyway because I DID agree to it. No matter how much fun he had himself. It was his job after all.

Ended up seeing him a few times after that (off the clock).

Edited April 25, 2023 by pubic_assistance
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[Keenan]

On 12/23/2022 at 4:41 PM, Milo Janus said:

Just curious if an escort as ever come across this when you see your client is as hot as you or more so that you pass on the fee and just go at it for fun.  

While it's nice to have a good looking client it doesn't change the fact that I am doing this work to support myself.  Time is money and if I were to give freebies away to everyone that looked good then I'd be broke.

Keenan

[Jamie21]

The challenge with this kind of work is that the opposite situation becomes an issue. What I mean is when you hookup with someone recreationally you can’t help thinking “I’d have charged x for that”…. at least that happens to me and I end up avoiding hookups or regular fuck buddies. For example I have passed up on opportunities for casual fun because I know that tomorrow I have clients and I want to keep my energy for them. It does kind of ruin your sex life! 

[Vulgarii]

On 2/27/2023 at 9:42 AM, sniper said:

I've definitely seen ads that offer discounts for student or active duty military and always assumed that was more about the provider figuring they were more likely to be attractive.

Yup that's what I do to have a more attractive client base as well as offer discounts to law enforcement as a code for being a fellow right winger. Blue Lives Matter lol

[Jarrod_Uncut]

18 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

The first time I ever paid someone for a fuck was years ago and I was only about 30. I was out with some gay friends for a birthday celebration. We all ended up at a strip club. One of the performers caught my eye because he was so precisely "MY type."

After his bit...I wanted to get another look at him so I headed to the lounge where I caught his eye. He darted over to me and asked if I wanted a "private show". I wasn't prepared for a "hire" and told him I don't have much cash with me. He asked how much I had...so pulled out my wallet which had about $42 in it. He declared that was enough for a "sample session".

I followed him to a hotel nearby for "my sample". We ended up fucking and sucking for about two hours. Once we were done he told me he didn't want the money ..he just thought I was cute. But I emptied my wallet of my $42 anyway because I DID agree to it. No matter how much fun he had himself. It was his job after all.

Ended up seeing him a few times after that (off the clock).

See, that’s why I often say: dancers/gogo boys/strippers aren’t necessarily always “sex workers”. In my experience, if you’re attractive, they could be open to linking up. I’ve fucked a few myself…but I try to show support by tipping when I see them working. 

I think in most gay bars I consider them more closely in line to shirtless bartenders and drag queens, than escorts/sex workers. UNLESS it’s a porn star/escort dancing as well. I even was talking with a guy who I almost did a video with, he dances in clubs and earned some porn star recognition, and he was like: “can you teach me how to be an escort?” I’m like…I’m shocked, I don’t think there’s anything I can teach YOU at this point 😆 

16 hours ago, Keenan said:

While it's nice to have a good looking client it doesn't change the fact that I am doing this work to support myself.  Time is money and if I were to give freebies away to everyone that looked good then I'd be broke.

Keenan

Exactly

 

13 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

The challenge with this kind of work is that the opposite situation becomes an issue. What I mean is when you hookup with someone recreationally you can’t help thinking “I’d have charged x for that”…. at least that happens to me and I end up avoiding hookups or regular fuck buddies. For example I have passed up on opportunities for casual fun because I know that tomorrow I have clients and I want to keep my energy for them. It does kind of ruin your sex life! 

I could have said this precisely. 
 

Rather than make another topic, I can mention it here: I don’t know if I’m feeling hookups anymore. It sucks because the guys I really really find my type, I don’t usually have as clients.

In the gay world, there’s a view to make like guys who ask for any kind of money are users, entitled, etc etc. Its annoying because it’s almost like these guys assume free access:

Elsewhere, I met a guy the other night, who I was into. 28 year old, professional, middle eastern. But he lived 1 hour and 30 minutes away in a rural town. So I had to drive to him, and drive back AND use half my gas tank to get there and back. Granted: I was horny and bored, so 1.5 hour at night didn’t seem too bad until I did it 😆 

He was nice and attractive, but I could tell that he was enjoying getting as much sexually energy from me as possible, and that was starting to become a bit draining. On our 2nd “romp” the next day: I ended up stopping before either of us got off. I didn’t want to cum again, and it seemed he was going to last awhile before he came again. Meanwhile the clock was just ticking by. I already spent the night, and it was approaching 5 p.m.

I was like dude, I gotta go ✌

I texted him later thanking him for a good time, but also had to let him know: If I go that distance normally, it’s for a booking, and that if next time we meet at his: I need him to leave something for my commute. I tried not to make him feel like I was saying: “you shoulda gave me gas money”, but it was more like what @Keenan said: I really couldn’t “afford” a 3 hour round trip drive just to hangout in someone’s apartment (at least not this month) and mutually dick suck/ass lick, cuddle/kiss and watch TV 😆 Yes it was fun BUT: at the end of that, I still likely missed a potential client, used up gas that should go towards my next appointment, and have no guarantee the guy is going to become more than a 1 night stand in the process. 
 

He was understanding about it, but I couldn’t find the right way to convey it to him without coming off ungrateful or that I didn’t appreciate his company. But I don’t feel it’s fair to not contribute when I know he has the means and job security to do it, yet I’m in an area that I only get 1 or 2 bookings every couple weeks…. 

Don’t get me wrong: I’m all for romance and connections complete a desire that I can’t always get from clients: but clients and hookup guys seem to be from different planets. I am so appreciative that many clients will pay for a session AND include commute money. Whereas asking random hookup guys: they think someone is: an unidentified fucking object 🛸 👽

Edited April 26, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[jeezifonly]

Same hourly rate whether the rocks have to go uphill or downhill. Moving rocks is work.

[Jamie21]

1 hour ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

He was understanding about it, but I couldn’t find the right way to convey it to him without coming off ungrateful or that I didn’t appreciate his company.

Could it be that there isn’t a way of doing that? It’s like saying ‘I really enjoy meeting you….but not so much that I’d do it without compensation’. Kind of awkward when the liaison started out as no conditions on either party. If it starts like that, and both are willing then it’s very difficult to change the terms later on!

I think there’s good reasons for having a very clear line between work and hookups / liaisons that you do for fun. When it becomes blurred as in that situation you described someone is likely to get hurt or upset. It’s certainly not easy to do, because one or the other (work / non work sex) tends to get prioritised to the detriment of the other, but I think it is important to try and keep them apart for the sake of one’s own and other’s feelings. 

[pubic_assistance]

5 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Yes it was fun BUT: at the end of that, I still likely missed a potential client......I'm in an area that I only get 1 or 2 bookings every couple weeks…. 

Your logic is lost on me.

You simultaneously claim you missed out by taking 3 hours of personal time but also indicate you really don't get a lot of bookings.

Are you saying you feel obligated to stay at home 24/7 until you get a client even though you don't get clients for days at a time ?

I think your dwindling business model is now officially cutting into you enjoying your life if that's the case.

 

Edited April 26, 2023 by pubic_assistance
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[DWnyc]

15 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Your logic is lost on me.

You simultaneously claim you missed out by taking 3 hours of personal time but also indicate you really don't get a lot of bookings.

Are you saying you feel obligated to stay at home 24/7 until you get a client even though you don't get clients for days at a time ?

I think your dwindling business model is now officially cutting into you enjoying your life if that's the case.

 

And if you (ie @Jarrod_Uncut) tell a hookup “the next time we have fun you have to engage me as an escort” good luck having non client/provider relationships. If you’re not saying that but just saying “help me out with my gas for a long drive to you” then this is not what is being discuweed in this topic, 

I have sympathy for what i assume is your financial situation … but I would never revisit a date/hookup who framed things in the way you have after an initial encounter that was clearly not a provider/client one.

 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

20 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Your logic is lost on me.

You simultaneously claim you missed out by taking 3 hours of personal time but also indicate you really don't get a lot of bookings.

Are you saying you feel obligated to stay at home 24/7 until you get a client even though you don't get clients for days at a time ?

I think your dwindling business model is now officially cutting into you enjoying your life if that's the case.

 

 
Okay: you can agree or disagree but don’t resort to using your judgmental opinions as a personal attack. We’ve been down that route before, don’t go there with me.
 

My “dwindling business model” is actually working well for me, so not sure what you’re talking about there. I just had a client yesterday who got my full service treatment, thanked me for the session and even commented on how I was much better than the last guy (who didn’t ask for a deposit) scammed him out of $250 with a 15 minute massage. 

So what dwindling business model are you talking about again? In my case it’s moreso just an issue with my general area versus a business model. The message I posted re: the A4A guy was NOT the same guy I mentioned about the gas money, just to be clear. Those are 2 separate conversations…
 

5 hours ago, DWnyc said:

And if you (ie @Jarrod_Uncut) tell a hookup “the next time we have fun you have to engage me as an escort” good luck having non client/provider relationships. If you’re not saying that but just saying “help me out with my gas for a long drive to you” then this is not what is being discuweed in this topic, 

I have sympathy for what i assume is your financial situation … but I would never revisit a date/hookup who framed things in the way you have after an initial encounter that was clearly not a provider/client one.

 

It’s not even about my financial situation. Like I said: I drove there and drove back on my own dime without me even asking for anything.

THE POINT I’m making is not about money, it’s not about gas or time spent. It’s multiple points I’m making. Put your thinking cap on, because it’s going to take more than listening to @pubic_assistance ASSwipe comments: 

I understand most guys who aren’t clients, aren’t going to offer monetary anything if I don’t ask. That’s just how it is, especially on hookup apps. They don’t concern how far I have to drive, or how much the hotel is. And generally consensus is: nobody owes anyone anything. Like that one post I did a few months ago, where the guy who was pretending he wanted an appointment, had in his A4A ad: “don’t ask for gas money, get a job if you need gas money”. And I’m supposed to want to meet someone like that? 
 

So, in my case: I did feel a need to bring it up. I didn’t bring it up prior to meeting because: I know most guys are going to feel that’s “tacky” or they’re going to assume I’m like all the other scammer app guys who ask for money and simply block me before we ever meet.

The way I said it was very matter of factly: I said “I understand we can’t help being the distance we are, but when I’m in THIS PARTICULAR area (he lives in a rural Army base town and I was also coming from a rural area): I don’t have the EXTRA resource (aka gas/cash/time) to drive that distance again (in the future) without a SOMETHING towards gas”. Something doesn’t have to be monetary, something can be: “if you drive us to the restaurant, I’ll put some gas in”. But again: I know most guys who aren’t clients aren’t going to offer that…even if I ask. 

Notice how, I didn’t say: “hey can you send me gas money?” Or “dude you should have gave me money for gas”. No. That’s not what I said. Because I was not OBLIGATING IT ON HIM because he didn’t expect it. I simply MADE A STATEMENT. That hey, “I did it this time…but next time or in the future you should know this is something that’s a factor for me.” 
 

It has nothing to do with me being so broke I can’t afford gas. Let’s ALL BE CLEAR on that. Because if that was the case, I wouldn’t have been able to drive to California and back from the Midwest…paying $3-$5 a gallon and filling up a 21 gallon tank each time. Do the math. Matter of fact: I was in Denver and a guy came up to me and asked for gas money, driving a better truck than I do…and I gave him some. Because I know how it is. 
 

Not to mention, I have on a couple occasions, picked guys up in cities I didn’t even live in, from their place which they couldn’t host, brought them back to my hotel…and drove them back. Not get them an Uber: PERSONALLY DROVE THEM BACK. And didn’t ask for gas. So I’m not here sounding like some cheap MoFo asking for gas money. Don’t ever ever ever think that not for one moment. 
 

Again: it’s the PRINCIPLE. Too many guys out here expect a lot for nothing. They don’t give a shit half the time, about the effort the other guy (or more specifically me) has to do to get to them. I remember I experienced this last year: I drove 30 miles at night to meet a guy who I previously met before. We hung out, spent the night. The next morning, he was hustling and bustling to get ready for work, and was rushing me out the door at 6:30 in the morning (3-4 hours before I normally wake up depending if I’m at home or hotel). Didn’t offer anything and seemed to really could care less that I came over to begin with. 

It’s not about gas money, it’s about: if I can put my time, put effort into driving, spend money on gas, change my schedule around, etc etc into meeting someone: They shouldn’t be OBLIVIOUS to the gesture of saying: “hey do you need XXX for gas, I know you have a long ride”. 

And I know it’s BS and some dudes looking for freebies are uptight because: when I was in San Diego last month, I was staying with someone at their home: and almost every other day I left to go to the store, I would hear: “I just need a couple things, here’s $20-$50”. And when I left, I heard: here’s $20…I know it’ll probably only get you 4 gallons but: that’s most I can do.
 

See, it’s the little things that matter. It’s not about me wanting to turn the Encounter into escorting or not able to pay my way. Asking for gas money is escorting, since when? But I have a right to communicate my desires, and like @Jamie21 said, maybe it’s not a way to say it without offending someone. And if mentioning I can’t afford to go 1.5 hour out of my way on a repeat basis without chipping in for gas bothers someone…it would confirm they are simply interested in the convenience of my free visit, versus the effort made to ensure the visit.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jarrod_Uncut]

23 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

Could it be that there isn’t a way of doing that? It’s like saying ‘I really enjoy meeting you….but not so much that I’d do it without compensation’. Kind of awkward when the liaison started out as no conditions on either party. If it starts like that, and both are willing then it’s very difficult to change the terms later on!

I think there’s good reasons for having a very clear line between work and hookups / liaisons that you do for fun. When it becomes blurred as in that situation you described someone is likely to get hurt or upset. It’s certainly not easy to do, because one or the other (work / non work sex) tends to get prioritised to the detriment of the other, but I think it is important to try and keep them apart for the sake of one’s own and other’s feelings. 

I get what you’re saying but, that’s not how I implied it. When I made the statement, I made sure to include that I did enjoy our company, but moreso the distance to meet would play a factor in meeting again.

Granted: I have heard of people having boyfriends as far as South America or overseas. I know someone is probably spending $3,000 each time to see the other, which is fine if the person has the means and there’s something built up. 

I honestly don’t even know why I’m discussing this. I guess the topic about escorts doing freebies can cover a wide array of situations. I even feel cheap and petty talking about this, yuck lol. Why am I making a big deal out of gas money lol. But I know it’s not that. It’s not about the money, it’s not about the gas. It’s moreso I feel I reached the point that: 

How can so many wonderful clients out there be so generous towards us, yet these other guys get offended when bringing up something like gas money? 

In addition: somebody said something about dating/relationship…half these guys don’t even be close to that in mind. Lot of guys on these apps aren’t (especially when…RACE ALERT: it comes to guys who are into Black/ethnic men.) I’ve been down that road a MILLION times. They’ll play like my most erotic, attentive boyfriend for a day or 2: and then pull the “I’m not looking for a relationship” card. Meanwhile, I could have lost $1,000 thinking this guy was serious about me (true story, a client was going to hire me for a second night, but I left to go home to my “boyfriend” who eventually ended up telling me he just wants to be friends, shame)

That’s why I feel lot of these app guys should be paying for sex, even if they say they don’t. If it was as legal as an Uber, I can imagine most would because, many aren’t looking for dating or friends. They just want a fuck toy. And being a fuck toy is okay, but similar to how they don’t like guys who drop the escort bomb, many of them don’t reveal they not looking for a relationship either until after they get what they want. And if there’s no opportunity for a relationship to happen, then I’m just doing to them, what I do to clients…but for nothing. Or at my expense, if I’m driving across town/multiple jurisdictions to reach them. 

Edited April 27, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Simon Suraci]

On 2/27/2023 at 11:42 AM, sniper said:

I've definitely seen ads that offer discounts for student or active duty military and always assumed that was more about the provider figuring they were more likely to be attractive.

I offer these types of discounts, but not for those reasons. Active duty military, students, and youth types are typically unable to hire, or less likely to hire because of their budgets. By offering specific discounts, I get a few more clients here and there that I otherwise wouldn’t.

By the way, not every young guy is attractive. I have plenty of very unattractive younger types, and even if they are pretty on the outside, some have very ugly attitudes or psychological problems and whatnot. Some are just plain jerks. Occasionally you get a gem of a person in a beautiful body. That’s the best.

It’s still work, and I’m performing a service, not for my pleasure, but for their enjoyment. They pay just like everyone else, even when they have a pretty face or a rocking bod.

[ontheroad]

On 12/31/2022 at 11:32 AM, 56harrisond said:

When was the last time you asked for and received a discount at your barber, mechanic, or dentist? Umm never. Sex work isn't any different. There shouldn't be a presumption a discount will be offered. If a discount is offered then I guess it's a client's lucky day.

Of course people have asked  for, and received, discounts from these people. If I go to a barber weekly, they likely will give me a different price v monthly. Same with a mechanic—price matching for services etc. As for a dentist, 4 cleanings a year may be discounted which are not all covered by insurance or a cosmetic procedure may be discounted when not covered by insurance.

so yes escorts are not unique—it’s a business. Escorts operate their business the way they want and some may offer discounts for various reasons unique to them. Good on them for figuring out the best way to operate their own business in a way that makes them fulfilled.

and while a client may not presume a discount will be offered, they can ask. I don’t get offended when someone asks me to discount my rate for the consulting work I do. If I want to discount, I tell them yes. If I don’t, I tell them no. And different things Drive that. 
 

 

 

 

[ontheroad]

On 2/25/2023 at 6:07 PM, Vulgarii said:

A prospective client approached me and asked if I had a discount. I looked up his phone number and name, and found his social media so told him bluntly "I'm not attracted to you so why the hell would I be erotic for less money?"

Why be rude? Why not just say, I’m sorry I can’t offer a discount.

[pubic_assistance]

19 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

My “dwindling business model” is actually working well for me, so not sure what you’re talking about there. 

I'm talking about the fact that you complain incessantly about not getting enough clients or you're complaining about the clients you DO get.

Have you ever considered it's not the clients that are the problem ? Maybe its your business model.

 

 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

22 hours ago, ontheroad said:

Of course people have asked  for, and received, discounts from these people. If I go to a barber weekly, they likely will give me a different price v monthly. Same with a mechanic—price matching for services etc. As for a dentist, 4 cleanings a year may be discounted which are not all covered by insurance or a cosmetic procedure may be discounted when not covered by insurance.

so yes escorts are not unique—it’s a business. Escorts operate their business the way they want and some may offer discounts for various reasons unique to them. Good on them for figuring out the best way to operate their own business in a way that makes them fulfilled.

and while a client may not presume a discount will be offered, they can ask. I don’t get offended when someone asks me to discount my rate for the consulting work I do. If I want to discount, I tell them yes. If I don’t, I tell them no. And different things Drive that. 
 

 

 

 

 

That’s all true. That’s why I was saying in another thread, I would be less offended if a regular/repeat client asked for a discount and stated why (long as it’s not something like, my other guy only charges XXX or “this is tiny town, they don’t charge that much here”).  Versus just flat out implying I’m too much.

I occasionally ask my barber for his previous price, partly because the shop’s rate went up twice and it takes me an hour to get there. But if I need a haircut before my next appointment, he’s always open to, and I just pay it back in a tip on the next round. 
 

3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I'm talking about the fact that you complain incessantly about not getting enough clients or you're complaining about the clients you DO get.

Have you ever considered it's not the clients that are the problem ? Maybe its your business model.

 

 

And you incessantly keep talking about the same shit that I’ve already corrected you on previously. Stop repeating the same misinterpretations you have, and maybe you can consider that it’s nothing to do with a business model.

I never said anything about not getting enough clients or complaining about the ones I get. The ones I DO mention, aren’t even clients because they haven’t paid anything to be one, first of all. 
 

And not getting enough clients, I’ve already posted and shown messages about certain people’s mentality in certain areas. However, I wasn’t referring to the $700+fine dining client who seen me couple weeks ago, or the 4 clients I had before that, just in a couple days, one of who actually is an exec at a production company. So explain to me: how is that a bad business model, educate me? Better yet: educate yourself…
 

I just showed you someone who went from saying he could be open to paying me for a massage, to now saying he doesn’t want to give me any money. It has nothing to do with a business model, it has more to do with increased frugality, guys wanting it for free, not “wanting to pay for sex”, etc. And it’s not an issue that’s unique to me. I’m on a different sex work forum where the providers are much more open and honest with others than around here. They have the same discussions…

 

And then, the deposit discussion (if that’s the business model you’re criticizing me on).  Again, these are other people saying this, not me…

 

There you go. I’m done discussing, you just want to suck me….

 

….into an argument and I’m not about to go that route with you 😝 

Edited April 28, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ ThroatCummer]

Jarrod, I hate to say this but I’ve been reading these forums and most everything posted for a year now. Public_ is kind of right. You just complain. If I was researching a provider and ran across your postings, I wouldn’t book with you just based on the energy you give off here. I’m sure you’re great in person and we all have outlets to vent in life, but there is some truth here.