Is no oral a deal killer?

[nomad]

He's fine with you servicing him.  If a provider doesn't care to suck you, is it boner or deal killer?  Even if he checks all the other boxes for what you're looking for.  

[DMonDude]

Not for me. There's almost no one unchecked box that is a deal breaker for me personally if all or even just most other boxes are checked. I'd just find another guy who's known for great oral when I'm really itching for that.

In my experience, I've never found one guy that checks more than 3/4ths of my boxes, let alone all but one. So I've mostly just accepted I'll always need at least a couple main guys to collectively cover all my boxes.

Edited August 4 by DMonDude

[Heart It Deep]

I actually don't enjoy getting sucked, so I don't care.  I do loved being rimmed/eaten out.  But unfortunately it seems very few providers do that.  (Or rather, quite  few inquiries I've made, it's one of their few limitations.)

[viewing ownly]

If it's an escort session, and it's not expected to be of the muscle worship of him variety, not getting sucked is unacceptable. It took me a long time to figure out that the list of what they're into on rent men is primarily what they're into having done to them, and not what they're willing to do mutually. 

If you're referring to no oral in a massage session, that's expecting much. I just don't appreciate a sudden avoidance of a happy ending when the massage was sensual throughout. I've demanded a release with a couple of hires when they tried to leave me with blue balls. I can jerk myself off at home. Finish me off! If the massage is therapeutic, then obviously getting head is not to be done.

[liubit]

Not getting sucked is an almost-dealbreaker for me. Almost. What is really unacceptable is no kissing. If I don’t get kissed, I don’t get hard: I am just wired that way. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[big-n-tall]

3 hours ago, liubit said:

Not getting sucked is an almost-dealbreaker for me. Almost. What is really unacceptable is no kissing. If I don’t get kissed, I don’t get hard: I am just wired that way. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Oral… I’m ok without it in a session. Although I do love it, especially if the guy is good at it.

However, kissing is my trigger. So much so that if I continue to kiss during/shortly after orgasm I’ll stay erect or get hard again fairly quickly. Deep passionate kisses at the right time could keep me going for hours if the provider is so inclined.

Nothing is absolute and I have been in sessions without kissing and still enjoyed my time. With kissing though I’m usually over the moon.

[Mark_fl]

It kind of is for me. Yes, I can enjoy a session without it, but always feels like a letdown. I  wouldn't rebook unless it was clearly something he's comfortable with.

[Rayphactor]

For me, it is a showstopper unless I've already established a provider/client relationship.

[DunwoodyGuy]

Yes--and it must be mutual.

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

6 hours ago, big-n-tall said:

Oral… I’m ok without it in a session. Although I do love it, especially if the guy is good at it.

I agree.  If the guy is smart 🤓, I like to start with a good oral conversation because I find that adds to the attractiveness of a guy.  But if the guy is not a good orator, then I stop the conversation and move on to activities that doesn't involve his mouth.

[NipLuvr212]

I have a few masseurs "on speed dial" and appreciate all of them for what each one special to me...

Having said that, the one with the best oral skills is definitely the one i see most often and appreciate the most - kind of almost a reflexive action on my part to favor him.

And i do understand that level of intimacy may not be appropriate for all people in the profession - but i do, i guess, vote with my wallet.

[+ SirBillybob]

4 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

I agree.  If the guy is smart 🤓, I like to start with a good oral conversation because I find that adds to the attractiveness of a guy.  But if the guy is not a good orator, then I stop the conversation and move on to activities that doesn't involve his mouth.

You mean you prefer the egghead? One that knows the lowest percentage fill ratio is the most impressive diameter?

Edited Wednesday at 12:23 AM by SirBillybob

[Nue2thegame]

20 minutes ago, SirBillybob said:

You mean you prefer the egghead? One that knows the lowest percentage fill ratio is the most impressive diameter?

You two sound like a perfect match!

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

2 hours ago, SirBillybob said:

You mean you prefer the egghead? One that knows the lowest percentage fill ratio is the most impressive diameter?

I still remember a massage session with our own @Rod Hagen, when he casually brought up Bernoulli's equation during the massage.  I had an instant erection!  That man is sexy smart 🤓 with his oral engagement

Edited Wednesday at 02:08 AM by Vegas_Millennial

[+ SirBillybob]

10 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

I still remember a massage session with our own @Rod Hagen, when he casually brought up Bernoulli's equation during the massage.  I had an instant erection!  That man is sexy smart 🤓 with his oral engagement

Oh my, that would be the pressure energy and speeding fluids. 

[Sinclaire]

I don't like having oral performed on me so that's perfectly up my alley. As long as I get to do the sucking I'm all good. 

[KiaOra]

Strangely enough, I'm having the opposite problem. I've been struggling to find Generation Z twinks who are fine with only being serviced. I've never had these issues with other generations. Also, I don't mind paying their high rates, and I've never thought oral service should be priced differently.

The only thing I can think of is that most are probably suffering from eating disorders, so maybe their psychology is slightly disturbed. (After all, most of them are gaunt.)  Maybe they don't like the idea of being serviced because they're not comfortable with their bodies.

Recently, I partially switched to twunks, but I'm still running into the same issue. I'm extremely baffled. (In all fairness, it was only two twunks who said no. That's compared to a dozen twinks who told me no.)

[+ Just Chuck]

I really love oral.  No oral isn’t a deal killer, but I’d have to really find other things about the other person appealing for me to go through with that.  Especially more than once.  

Oral with a condom is just enough better than no oral that I’ll cooperate. 

[Decatur Guy]

Not a deal-breaker. In fact, with the right guy, it can be hot to give and not receive. 

[GymGuy]

Is oral with a condom still done very often?  I've never been ask to wear a condom by the masseurs that have provided an oral HE.  Curious to know the experiences of others here.

[+ Just Chuck]

15 hours ago, GymGuy said:

Is oral with a condom still done very often?  I've never been ask to wear a condom by the masseurs that have provided an oral HE.  Curious to know the experiences of others here.

The couple of times a masseur gave what other sites call a CBJ (Covered Blow Job) they didn’t say a word about it.  We’re just arriving at that point in the session and they just silently opened a condom packet, applied it, and then provided oral.  

[MscleLovr]

On 8/4/2026 at 11:04 AM, liubit said:

Not getting sucked is an almost-dealbreaker for me.

Utter deal-breaker for me, as I love receiving oral to completion (after I’ve topped a man).

 

On 8/4/2026 at 9:57 PM, NipLuvr212 said:

one with the best oral skills is definitely the one i see most often and appreciate the most

Agreed, especially if he swallows my load.

 

On 8/4/2026 at 2:42 PM, big-n-tall said:

kissing is my trigger. So much so that…. Deep passionate kisses at the right time could keep me going for hours

Kissing starts the romance. For me, French kissing is an essential part of foreplay. While love-making for me is made more intense by deep and passionate kissing.

 

15 hours ago, GymGuy said:

oral with a condom still done very often?

I only encountered that more than 20 years ago when I dated some Brazilian muscleboys (who aimed to succeed as models).
One of them told me that it was heavily recommended in Brazil’s public sex education campaign at a time of rising HIV/AIDS numbers. 
Two of the guys skilfully brought me off and I noticed that they avoided cum-in-mouth.
One guy insisted I wore a condom but would let me finish in his mouth. He had such a beautiful body, and was a great kisser/cuddler after climax, that I was happy to comply with his wish.

[AtlantaDude]

1 hour ago, Just Chuck said:

The couple of times a masseur gave what other sites call a CBJ (Covered Blow Job) they didn’t say a word about it.  We’re just arriving at that point in the session and they just silently opened a condom packet, applied it, and then provided oral.  

How does it feel?  Is it almost as good as bj with no condom? 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

Yeah. I wouldn't give a non-reciprocal oral in a free hookup. So of course I'm not going to pay to do it. 

[+ Just Chuck]

4 hours ago, AtlantaDude said:

How does it feel?  Is it almost as good as bj with no condom? 

I'll say it’s probably about 60% as good as with no condom.  I’d rank it in this list:

1. Good bare BJ
2. Skilled handjob
3. Covered BJ
4. Unskilled handjob.