+ Jamie21 Posted July 15 Posted July 15 1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said: Only if I were British. 😉 You were 250 years ago. That’s where it went wrong. pubic_assistance, spidir, MenLoveAvenue and 2 others 5
BillJenBill Posted July 15 Posted July 15 On 7/13/2026 at 6:55 PM, GregW said: I regularly only use a hung muscle dude in Vancouver who is on RentMasseur and provides all services I usually have sex and then enjoy a great massage after and obviously I book more than an hour but so worth it!! Sometimes make him start with a massage -all depends on my mood. I am headed to Vancouver soon. Who is this stud?
Becket Posted July 15 Posted July 15 (edited) I like the fantasy of a massage leading into some sex. It makes me feel "surprised." That's a great turn on. Also it feels great to have a rubdown before hopping into bed. I am less nervous, more limber, with fewer inhibitions. Now, it does take communication with the provider to be sure we are both on the same page. Sometimes a provider will do one but not the other. But when I'm lucky enough to have found a guy who will massage me on his table, then with a twinkle in his eye say, "Would you like to join me in the bed? Now THAT can be a very good day indeed. Edited July 15 by Becket Luv2play, Mark4133, thomas and 2 others 5
+ KensingtonHomo Posted July 15 Posted July 15 4 hours ago, San Angelo said: One time I let a handsome daddy give me a bj and I regretted it because he didn't even tip me. When I asked for the tip directly he said I didn't cum. I felt insulted and told him I wasn't an escort and that the sexual part wasn't part of it. But of course, at the end it was my fault because his lips wrapping my dick truly felt delicious and I didn't stop him. I still felt like he took advantage. Never again. Here's the thing. Just like clients shouldn't expect anything sexual from a masseur - unless it's explicitly discussed - providers cannot assume that if they "let" a client blow them or touch them or anything else they wouldn't normally do, that they will receive additional compensation. Maybe you're the hottest guy in the world, but if you didn't object to the oral sex and it "truly felt delicious," perhaps he felt the blowjob was the tip. 🤷♂️ + Vegas_Millennial, San Angelo, Bluefin and 1 other 1 3
Nightowl Posted July 15 Posted July 15 5 hours ago, Rudynate said: I like uncertainty. I like to hire for a therapeutic massage and see where it goes. Sometimes it really is a therapeutic massage, so I certainly haven't lost out. But often, it turns into the full monty. I’m with you. For me the uncertainty itself is erotic. When I get the full monty, it’s a pleasant surprise. Greg250, NipLuvr212 and MikeBiDude 3
mikeyspark Posted July 15 Posted July 15 On 7/14/2026 at 4:49 PM, pubic_assistance said: 😆 Funny. I actually DO really enjoy a good professional massage. I generally book a mixed session of "therapeutic & erotic" and see where things go. Most often its a happy ending (handjob) but occasionally it goes full deli with oral sex. I have on occasion had a masseur try to actually fuck me during a "nuru" session but I always find that to be very presumptuous since I am NOT a bottom and definitely NOT letting ANYONE fuck me without a condom. So yeah...I do immediately put an end to THAT. In Thailand its not unusual for a young masseur at an m4m Spa to offer to ride your cock. Of ALL of these additional sexual favors...I have never ONCE been so egotistical to assume they were just so taken with my masculine beauty that they just HAD TO have sex with me. I'm not delusional. Its a BUSINESS. They are there with you to MAKE MONEY, whether they think you're a nice looking man or not. So when ever I DO indulge in extras that are defined as SEX, I always tip significantly. fantastic and that's your opinion and choice. We aren't all the same.
Mark4133 Posted July 15 Posted July 15 I generally want a great therapeutic massage with some sensuality and mutual touch, but don’t expect sex unless the chemistry is there. I’m finding more masseurs these days are initiating sex with a blowjob or trying to slip their cock in me during some nuru-like moves, which I politely turn down if I’m not interested (most the time). That said, there’s a guy who I used to see in LA, started with an in-home massage through Zeel. The first massage was strictly therapeutic but I got a sense that he might do more so I booked a follow up the next day through his direct cell number and asked for his latest appointment. He came over and started the massage at 9pm. The massage was similar to the previous day, except at the end, he took the draping sheet and said he would wipe some of the massage oil off. He started with my legs and wiped up to my thighs, then my chest and down to my stomach until the sheet was bunched at my mid section and crotch. Of course I was rock hard at this point with all of the rubbing and he leaned down to kiss me. We then moved to the bed and had full on sex for hours. He almost spent the night. Afterwards, I saw him a few times and the routine was similar—strictly therapeutic until the very end. One time at his place, he ended the massage and when I got up off the table he shook my hand to say thanks, and then ended up giving me a hug while I was still naked. I felt him hard and we started to kiss and then it turned into another sex fest with a shower, bath, and fucking time on his bed. I thought it was interesting that he drew very distinct lines between the massage and sex.
pubic_assistance Posted July 15 Posted July 15 1 hour ago, Jamie21 said: You were 250 years ago. That’s where it went wrong. Well....this assumes all Americans are British because we speak English. The majority of Americans are German. + KensingtonHomo, + Vegas_Millennial and spidir 1 2
Rudynate Posted July 15 Posted July 15 1 hour ago, Nightowl said: I’m with you. For me the uncertainty itself is erotic. When I get the full monty, it’s a pleasant surprise. Exactly. I try to manage my expectations, reminding myself "Ok, you're just here for a massage." But when he starts to take little liberties - I know it likely will be more, often a lot more. Nightowl 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted July 16 Posted July 16 3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Well....this assumes all Americans are British because we speak English. The majority of Americans are German. Thanks for the reminder! German ancestry has been the largest US group since 1866. It makes sense that we are so closely associated with the Hamburger 🍔 spidir, Jacob_b and pubic_assistance 1 2
DunwoodyGuy Posted July 16 Posted July 16 8 hours ago, Mark_fl said: That would be a bet you'd lose. Why?
Mark_fl Posted July 16 Posted July 16 11 minutes ago, DunwoodyGuy said: Why? Because, I post on this board, and would be just as happy if a massuse started giving extras as if a masseur did. + Vegas_Millennial and pubic_assistance 1 1
San Angelo Posted July 16 Posted July 16 On 7/14/2026 at 11:12 PM, Vulgarii said: Masseurs are budget prostitutes. When you don't want to pay escort prices and don't want the stigma of having to pay for one, shoot your shot with a masseur, but you better ask him a million questions beforehand. Escorts are not budget prostitutes. I feel like you should be called out for calling masseurs "prostitutes" in the first place. Really? Most masseurs give massages. Or are you European? Because that's not how it works in America. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like in Europe, masseurs are often synonymous of sex workers from my experience interacting with a few European potential clients here and there. Even if a lot of masseurs are willing to have sex for the right price, there's still many that aren't. Also, not even all escorts are willing to have sex. Escorts are supossed to be company men. Aren't they? Because I used to escort at one point and had my limitations. I never did anal nor sucked nor rimmed nor kissed. I was only willing to receive oral (oral for me is not regular sex). Hopefully all my clients were nice and easy to work with (I had very few). But at the end, the business wasn't for me. pubic_assistance and brayburn 1 1
San Angelo Posted July 16 Posted July 16 (edited) 5 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Well....this assumes all Americans are British because we speak English. The majority of Americans are German. The German ancestry is Americans in exaggerated. People in the USA tend to overstate their non-British and "American" (colonial British) blood because they think is more exotical. The majority of the ancestry in the USA is still mostly British (Irish, English and Scottish) because the British had a founding effect in Americans. But yes, German is also a major component and quite large. Most Americans are probably a British + German combo with other minor ancestries (something like 45% British, 35% German and the remaining Scandinavian, Dutch, French, Italian, Polish, etc.). Off-topic though. Edited July 16 by San Angelo pubic_assistance and Vulgarii 1 1
+ Jamie21 Posted July 16 Posted July 16 9 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Well....this assumes all Americans are British because we speak English. The majority of Americans are German. Hmmm your German genes are evident, I was being light hearted. But since you mentioned it, all those in the 13 colonies were subjects of British King George III …who was mostly German (but we aren’t fussy where we get our Monarchs from as long as they aren’t Catholic). + Vegas_Millennial, spidir, Nue2thegame and 2 others 1 4
mike carey Posted July 16 Posted July 16 @Jamie21, the crowned heads of Europe were one of the earlier internationalist global elites [as long as 'global' excludes all things that are not European as they were wont to do]. And the throne of England has been ceded even to a Scot. Majority German is a bit of a stretch in a country that is barely majority Caucasian. + KensingtonHomo, Vulgarii, pubic_assistance and 2 others 1 1 1 2
DunwoodyGuy Posted July 16 Posted July 16 9 hours ago, Mark_fl said: Because, I post on this board, and would be just as happy if a massuse started giving extras as if a masseur did. Well, please keep it to yourself. I for one am sick and tired of people shoving their heterosexuality in our gay faces! Vulgarii, pubic_assistance and + Vegas_Millennial 1 1 1
Mark_fl Posted July 16 Posted July 16 2 minutes ago, DunwoodyGuy said: Well, please keep it to yourself. I for one am sick and tired of people shoving their heterosexuality in our gay faces! Lol. God, I hope this is parody. pubic_assistance, jackcali and Vulgarii 1 2
pubic_assistance Posted July 16 Posted July 16 (edited) 3 hours ago, mike carey said: Majority German is a bit of a stretch in a country that is barely majority Caucasian. Sorry. I misspoke... there arent more of us than everybody else. But we are still the largest ethnic group. Not the English. Thanks to @Vegas_Millennial for the informative chart. Edited July 16 by pubic_assistance grammar mike carey and + Vegas_Millennial 1 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted July 16 Posted July 16 50 minutes ago, Mark_fl said: 52 minutes ago, DunwoodyGuy said: Well, please keep it to yourself. I for one am sick and tired of people shoving their heterosexuality in our gay faces! Lol. God, I hope this is parody It is called Company of MEN for a reason. pubic_assistance 1
Mark_fl Posted July 16 Posted July 16 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said: It is called Company of MEN for a reason. Yes, but I do enjoy the company of men. Sorry, I missed the requirement that bisexuals weren't allowed. I'd better cancel my subscription. It's not like I'm suggesting women, or posting sexy photos of females. Someone just made the erroneous comment that nobody here would be interested in a masseuse, and I was pointing out he was wrong. I don't think that's a violation of this site. Edited July 16 by Mark_fl Otterlybelievable, + KensingtonHomo, Vulgarii and 1 other 2 1 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted July 16 Posted July 16 49 minutes ago, Mark_fl said: It's not like I'm suggesting women... Much appreciated!
Vulgarii Posted July 16 Posted July 16 19 hours ago, San Angelo said: Escorts are not budget prostitutes. I feel like you should be called out for calling masseurs "prostitutes" in the first place. Really? Most masseurs give massages. Or are you European? Because that's not how it works in America. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like in Europe, masseurs are often synonymous of sex workers from my experience interacting with a few European potential clients here and there. Even if a lot of masseurs are willing to have sex for the right price, there's still many that aren't. Also, not even all escorts are willing to have sex. Escorts are supossed to be company men. Aren't they? Because I used to escort at one point and had my limitations. I never did anal nor sucked nor rimmed nor kissed. I was only willing to receive oral (oral for me is not regular sex). Hopefully all my clients were nice and easy to work with (I had very few). But at the end, the business wasn't for me. I've written the statement several times before on this forum that "some guys think masseurs are budget prostitutes." When I realized I didn't write out the whole statement and that it read like a big general blanket statement, time had passed I couldn't edit my comment. Yes escorts don't necessarily have sex or have to have sex but I just assume nowadays it's a nicer way of saying prostitute or sex worker, since so many people, especially women, want to sugar coat it. If it's empowering then why use euphemisms? lol San Angelo and pubic_assistance 1 1
mike carey Posted July 17 Posted July 17 Friends, we don't need character assessments of each other nor to have those compliments returned. We've edited out some that had already been posted. Please confine your comments to the topic at hand and not to judgments of each other. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
topunderachiever Posted July 17 Posted July 17 15 hours ago, mike carey said: Thank you for your attention to this matter. NO politics ! CuriousByNature, Vulgarii, Nightowl and 1 other 1 3
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