Going rates? (And other first timer questions)

[david78nyc]

I discovered a content creator who is 100% my type and am thinking of spoiling myself and taking the plunge and hiring for the first time. Couple of questions for the forum: 1) He’s proposing $550 an hour. Does that seem like an appropriate rate for someone in DC? I have no idea what market is but I was expecting something closer to $400. 2) Is it generally okay to ask if he’d meet for less? Or is that rude? 3) If he doesn’t have reviews, should I wait until he does? He seems nice on DM and my gut says he’d be good, but that’s a big investment for me. And finally 4) does anyone ever ask to record their sessions for (ahem) use later on? Would that be an unusual ask?

Is profile is below. And thanks gents!

 

Riley_Walker - Male Escort, Gay massage - Washington | Rent.Men

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Riley_Walker Gay Escort in Washington, District of Columbia, available for Modeling,Boyfriend Experience. | Find...

 

Edited Tuesday at 12:03 PM by david78nyc

[BananaBagel]

Blue eye jock - I see why you’re interested.
 

If this is your first time and an occasional treat you may want to offer his full rate to have one less thing on your mind. sometimes you can say you’re preferred rate once and see if they are open to it but a well known OF performer may not have much reason to accept less than what he can command. 
 

Reviews or notes on here are very useful and make a big difference. You may want to see if this post finds some men who know your guy. 
 

I don’t know about recording. 
 

Good luck!

[Peter Eater]

2 hours ago, david78nyc said:

does anyone ever ask to record their sessions for (ahem) use later on? Would that be an unusual ask?

RM ads include a line to list “Rentmen Services,” which has video availability as an option. Riley’s ad does not include it. Still, you could ask.

[+ Pensant]

You could also offer $800 for two hours, since he’s already there.

[Nue2thegame]

I think $550 is high for any market and your hunch of $400 is a more realistic upper limit. Although there’s some debate on the forum about haggling the overall sentiment is that it shouldn’t be done and many providers find it insulting. If he represents your ultimate fantasy, you probably don’t want to sully it by having him feel that he’s compromising. Many providers are fine with videoing. Final red flag (at least for me) is lack of reviews. Some of these guys aren’t real. If it seems TGTBT, it probably is. 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

$550 an hour for a successful OF creator isn't unusual; that's why I don't even look at them.  But it's a lot of money for your first time. 

I would not ask for a discount. That's his rate, and if his OF is successful, he can be choosy. 

I might wait for reviews if no one here has experience. There are lots of negative stories about people hiring OF creators. 

Some providers are open to filming but since his income is OF, he may not want free videos out there. 

[56harrisond]

3 hours ago, david78nyc said:

I discovered a content creator who is 100% my type and am thinking of spoiling myself and taking the plunge and hiring for the first time. 

His profile is below.

Riley_Walker - Male Escort, Gay massage - Washington | Rent.Men

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Riley_Walker Gay Escort in Washington, District of Columbia, available for Modeling,Boyfriend Experience. | Find...

Reviewed here

 

[+ Jamie21]

I can’t comment on the rate because I work in a different market. I’d recommend avoiding trying to negotiate the rate. I don’t like clients trying to negotiate me down tbh. 
As for filming I’m ok with clients asking to film a small part of their session but I’m not ok to film the whole session because it’s too much of a distraction. You could ask him and see. It wouldn’t offend. 

[+ azdr0710]

since you suggest this will be your first meeting, here are some threads with lots of advice....go over all of them end-to-end.....

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/142802-etiquette-for-initial-communication/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/130365-caveats-in-hiring-please-contribute/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/83821-advice-for-a-newbie-please/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/103088-newbie-question/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/13389-recommendations-for-newbie/

be to-the-point, brief, professional in communication......no gushy daily texts!......smile, have fun, talk slowly, ask him what he likes, no money talk, look him in the eye, firm handshake....... no deposit!!

[jusmeinbr]

Just my own approach:

Once quoted a rate, I either agree or decline.

On a couple of occasions, a provider has immediately dropped the rate (which I neither expected nor wanted), with one dropping it almost in half.  

When that happened about seven months ago entailing ale_aleman who’d also been VERY deceitful with me about where he even was when we began corresponding two hours prior, I did respond in a terse manner.

Thereafter, I was utterly lampooned by members of this forum (about 32 such entries with high fives and one member praising another member for “calling it like I see it” regarding me — he “called” a very obvious ball a strike — and one member posting a tutorial on rate negotiation which I neither asked for nor wanted).

Accordingly, I deleted the entire post.  The only comment I thought that was appropriate did come from @Jamie21, who basically said rate negotiation is very unlikely to result in a pleasing and fulfilling subsequent meeting.  I did feel vindicated when @johnwhatelse made this post on the individual in question.

You do what you feel comfortable with, but for me, a final “yes” or “no” upon being quoted a rate has served me well for 22 years, and I plan to stick with that firm policy no matter how many unsolicited (and unwanted) tutorials on “rate negotiation” may surface on any future post which I originate.

[big-n-tall]

When I asked him May of last year he said 450 per hour and 2000 for an overnight. So inflation. 😁

[BigK]

13 hours ago, Nue2thegame said:

I think $550 is high for any market and your hunch of $400 is a more realistic upper limit. Although there’s some debate on the forum about haggling the overall sentiment is that it shouldn’t be done and many providers find it insulting. If he represents your ultimate fantasy, you probably don’t want to sully it by having him feel that he’s compromising. Many providers are fine with videoing. Final red flag (at least for me) is lack of reviews. Some of these guys aren’t real. If it seems TGTBT, it probably is. 

I don’t haggle.  I simply say thanks I think I would’ve enjoyed meeting you, but unfortunately you’re over my budget.  I’d say 50% of the time I get a response where they offered to lower their rate..  you can never prejudge their willingness to drop their rate.  Maybe they just had a cancellation or been having a slow few days.  I have to say that whenever this does happen, I don’t feel like I’m being given incomplete service.

[TJMS]

I agree you should not haggle. I am in the Chicago market and I have providers as low as $250 (coincidentally a favorite and super hot), most in the $300, and a couple at $350 for an hour of full service. I think if you're quoted a higher price than you are willing to pay, just thank them and move on.

[Mark_fl]

"I'm sure you're worth it, but that's out of my price range." is what I've said and nobody seemed offended.

[jusmeinbr]

2 hours ago, Mark_fl said:

"I'm sure you're worth it, but that's out of my price range." is what I've said and nobody seemed offended.

How could anybody possibly be offended by that response?

In the Aleman case I reference above, he told me that he was leaving New Orleans and would be near me in less than two hours.  I was in an important meeting and stepped into the hallway to text with him.  I excused myself under the belief that we could meet if I let the others know I was going to exit the meeting for good.  I quickly texted him that I needed to know his rate.  His response?:  I am driving to you from Texas, so can you do $500?”  My response (he would be passing within two minutes of me if he had been truthful with me about leaving New Orleans, which is where his location showed on RM , which prompted me reaching out to him in the first place):  “Absolutely not!  Just keep on driving.”   He replied:  “I can do $300 if you’re still interested?”  I replied:  “I don’t see anything productive coming from us meeting,” and I returned to the meeting.  I did not like the rate drop, but I especially did not like the point-blank falsehood about where he was!

i have used bold emphasis on this account of the incident which I did not do on my original post.  The vast majority of my working career, I was a fraud investigator for the Federal Government.  We trained extensively to pay close attention to detail and to pick up on inconsistent statements.  Perhaps I made an unwarranted assumption that the members of this group would readily pick up on that deception, but I can only assume that was not the case based on the absolute lambasting I took from the post.  I gave everyone 30 hours to get it out of their systems, after which I caused the post to vanish by deleting it.  
 

I guess as a 12-year member of this forum and that being the only time anything like that has ever happened with any post I’ve ever made, maybe that’s not bad. Nevertheless, the commentaries made about me and the incredible piling on that ensued from the outset of the post until I deleted the post were certainly not appreciated by me in the slightest bit, and it stalled me from posting the first word to this forum for about seven weeks thereafter.

Edited 23 hours ago by jusmeinbr
Typo.

[Mark_fl]

3 hours ago, jusmeinbr said:

How could anybody possibly be offended by that response?

In the Aleman case I reference above, he told me that he was leaving New Orleans and would be near me in less than two hours.  I was in an important meeting and stepped into the hallway to text with him.  I excused myself under the belief that we could meet if I let the others know I was going to exit the meeting for good.  I quickly texted him that I needed to know his rate.  His response?:  I am driving to you from Texas, so can you do $500?”  My response (he would be passing within two minutes of me if he had been truthful with me about leaving New Orleans, which is where his location showed on RM , which prompted me reaching out to him in the first place):  “Absolutely not!  Just keep on driving.”   He replied:  “I can do $300 if you’re still interested?”  I replied:  “I don’t see anything productive coming from us meeting,” and I returned to the meeting.  I did not like the rate drop, but I especially did not like the point-blank falsehood about where he was!

i have used bold emphasis on this account of the incident which I did not do on my original post.  The vast majority of my working career, I was a fraud investigator for the Federal Government.  We trained extensively to pay close attention to detail and to pick up on inconsistent statements.  Perhaps I made an unwarranted assumption that the members of this group would readily pick up on that deception, but I can only assume that was not the case based on the absolute lambasting I took from the post.  I gave everyone 30 hours to get it out of their systems, after which I caused the post to vanish by deleting it.  
 

I guess as a 12-year member of this forum and that being the only time anything like that has ever happened with any post I’ve ever made, maybe that’s not bad. Nevertheless, the commentaries made about me and the incredible piling on that ensued from the outset of the post until I deleted the post were certainly not appreciated by me in the slightest bit, and it stalled me from posting the first word to this forum for about seven weeks thereafter.

I don't know if you described the situation the same way before, but as presented here, I'm with you 100%

[rawview]

I wouldn't pay that amount, I don't if he is cute!  There are plenty of sexy guys.  I'd say the price is higher than you expected and see if he is open to a different option, it all depends on his situation.  As for videos, always ask, as each guy has their own feelings about that stuff.  Good luck!

[pubic_assistance]

On 1/20/2026 at 7:03 AM, david78nyc said:

I discovered a content creator who is 100% my type and am thinking of spoiling myself 

Never haggle, its insulting. 

If this is 100% your type, then WHY would lose your chance to meet because of an extra $100 over your budget  ?? 

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[Mark_fl]

6 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Never haggle, its insulting. 

If this is 100% your type, then WHY would lose your chance to meet over an extra $100 over your budget  ?? 

Honestly, even if they were my dream date, paying that much would ruin it for me. My expectations would be raised, I'd think they were too arrogant to charge that much, and I'd be too critical of everything that wasn't ideal. YMMV, but I could never enjoy an experience if I felt I was overpaying from the start.

[jusmeinbr]

24 minutes ago, Mark_fl said:

Honestly, even if they were my dream date, paying that much would ruin it for me. My expectations would be raised, I'd think they were too arrogant to charge that much, and I'd be too critical of everything that wasn't ideal. YMMV, but I could never enjoy an experience if I felt I was overpaying from the start.

I totally agree!!  Ian_Twink is my dream come true, and I’ve consistently said he is the absolute best I’ve ever encountered in 22 years of hiring.

Even having said that, had he quoted me a very high rate (he quoted me a very reasonable rate, especially for someone of his caliber), it would have given me pause because I also have the cost of a 16-hour (round trip) travel venture to see him, thus also triggering a need for two nights hotel.

As it is, I always give him a nice tip because his rate is very reasonable and he brings joy to me that I had given up feeling like I could ever experience again.  We’ve met about 7-8 times since first meeting in mid September of last year.  Two of those meetings have been when he visits Houston, which dramatically reduces my time (can go and return the same day) and cost (he hosts because he’s seeing other regular clients).

So, for me, that initial quote is critical and, as long as it’s reasonable, I’ve always had the goal of a long-term recurring series of encounters.

@PhileasFogg, whom I’ve gotten to know very well since he relocated to Nee Orleans, has described me as “fiercely loyal” to the providers with whom I meet, and he is correct.  Right now, I am Ian_Twink and him only unless a provider visits New Orleans with a huge “wow factor,” which I’m presently lucking up with in that Sebastian_Leon is here through Mardi Gras (2/17).  I’ve met with him twice in the last two weeks and I tend to do so twice more before he heads back to his fortunate and lucky clients in Boston.

[pubic_assistance]

51 minutes ago, Mark_fl said:

paying that much would ruin it for me. 

"That much" ?

Literally ever super-hot guy I've seen on Rent.men asks for that much and far more. 

You don't get a room at the Mandarin Oriental for the same price as the Hampton Inn. Likewise - any Premium provider with a great body and handsome face KNOWS he can charge more than the going rate. @david78nyc is fortunate that he's only asking 25% more than standard for a fit hottie in an East Coast Major metropolitan.

I say - go for it ! 

You rarely see "100% my type" kind-of guys available for hire. The ONLY time I pass on those opportunities is when we're talking over $800 (in any locale).

[+ DrownedBoy]

15 hours ago, Mark_fl said:

"I'm sure you're worth it, but that's out of my price range." is what I've said and nobody seemed offended.

Don't leave an opening for the term "out of my price range."

Just thank them for their time and if they try to negotiate, say you don't haggle and repeat yourself.

[jusmeinbr]

28 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

"That much" ?

Literally ever super-hot guy I've seen on Rent.men asks for that much and far more. 

 

“Super-hot” is in the eye of the beholder.  I’ve seen guys raved about on this forum that I couldn’t be paid enough money by the U. S. Treasury to agree to meet with.  I never say anything like that publicly about any provider because I think doing so is classless, and we all know we all have different tastes.

You’re correct to point out that location is key though.  New Orleans is a tough market both for providers and clients.  It does have one relatively new client who has possibly raised the whole city’s GDP by 0.13% through his hiring 😄, but I’ve heard from from several providers that they never plan to come back because New Orleans locals are, and I’m quoting, “cheapskates.”  One provider (with whom I met and happily agreed to his $350 hourly rate because I viewed him as “super hot”), said he was flooded with texts such as, “Hey, will you let me suck you off for $20?”

So, in New Orleans, unless you’ve got tons of well-heeled visitors for a big event like the Super Bowl, quoting $500 will get you laughed right out of town (with the possible exception of our new resident whom I just referenced 😄).

[Nue2thegame]

I’ve paid well over $550 for some encounters. Some have been worth it, some have not. My feeling is there is a pretty loose  relationship between the value of the experience (to me) and what the provider thinks they’re worth. It comes down to chemistry. sometimes I can anticipate that it’s there from their communication and reviews but I’m still occasionally disappointed. I’ve had some great times at very reasonable prices. But, I’m old, more than a little jaded and probably have an easier time controlling my emotions than some. 

[Hen]

On 1/20/2026 at 11:36 PM, BigK said:

I don’t haggle.  I simply say thanks I think I would’ve enjoyed meeting you, but unfortunately you’re over my budget.  I’d say 50% of the time I get a response where they offered to lower their rate..  you can never prejudge their willingness to drop their rate.  Maybe they just had a cancellation or been having a slow few days.  I have to say that whenever this does happen, I don’t feel like I’m being given incomplete service.

I do the same thing! A quick thank you and that I'm bummed that we can't meet. 8 out of 10 times, either immediately or a few days later they will hit me up with a lower rate.