Still follow through after slight annoyance?

[acks0104]

It's been a little while since I've booked a session but came across a guy who looked promising. He has a number of reviews and when I reached out to him, his responses were short but prompt, which was fine. I asked his rate and if he did both in calls and out calls and confirmed he did both, so I told him I was interested in an out call later that week and let him know what area I was in. I reached out last night to confirm that I was interested in booking a session for today and that I would reach out to him day of to send my address. Today arrives and after confirming our meeting time, I send him my address.

This is where I got annoyed. After sending him my info, he sends a message back to say I'll need to send an uber. This is something I've done before, but I've always had the escort mention it before booking a session, not day of. It adds on an extra $100 to the session and it's not something I'm totally against, but I'm wondering if it's enough of an annoyance for others that they'd just cancel or ignore it and continue.

[sjmuktop]

This has happened to me before a few times, when I have booked an escort for an outcall (which is not something I do too often, as I prefer incalls at the escort's place). 

I have agreed to meet the escort at my hotel, say, and he requested an Uber whilst he is about to make his way over to me, and didn't mention it beforehand. Honestly, no sweat. There was actually one time when the shoe was on the other foot, I was ready to leave my place for the escort's place, and realised I hadn't charged my phone for several hours. My phone was about to die, I hadn't left home until later than expected for whatever reason (I don't recall), and my session was due to start in about 20 minutes. I asked the escort if he would order me an Uber and said that I'd pay him once I arrived at his place and we were together. He ended up ordering me a Bolt that night, and I got to him on time and paid him the fare for the Bolt back. Easy. Fortunately, I knew him well by this point, so had no qualms asking for the favour.

[+ purplekow]

This Uber business is tricky.  First, when I commute to work. my boss does not pay me.  The expectation of getting there and getting back should fall to escort or should be discussed early on so as to make clear what the actual cost of the interaction will be.  Since I am now living in a small city, when asked to pay for an Uber, I tell the escort I will pick him up and drop him off.  It gives me some time to speak with him and get to know him a bit and it saves me the cash.  In addition, the risk of a no show drops.  This has worked out well.  This may not be a practical solution for most people as the ability to g4et there and back may be onerous for some.  However, any last minute surprises about price and policy puts a pall over the meeting and unless Paul is really hot, it may be enough for me to say No to paying for the ride.  To be fair, no one has ever cancelled because I did not supply an Uber and the number of times I have said No is small. 

[Kuppusami]

32 minutes ago, sjmuktop said:

This has happened to me before a few times, when I have booked an escort for an outcall (which is not something I do too often, as I prefer incalls at the escort's place). 

I have agreed to meet the escort at my hotel, say, and he requested an Uber whilst he is about to make his way over to me, and didn't mention it beforehand. Honestly, no sweat. There was actually one time when the shoe was on the other foot, I was ready to leave my place for the escort's place, and realised I hadn't charged my phone for several hours. My phone was about to die, I hadn't left home until later than expected for whatever reason (I don't recall), and my session was due to start in about 20 minutes. I asked the escort if he would order me an Uber and said that I'd pay him once I arrived at his place and we were together. He ended up ordering me a Bolt that night, and I got to him on time and paid him the fare for the Bolt back. Easy. Fortunately, I knew him well by this point, so had no qualms asking for the favour.

Well that's a lovely anecdote. Do always live the renew your faith in humanity type of stories. 

Personally I would not pay for an Uber or cab. Leaves a paper trail, and sets a bad president for the next guy they wanna try it on. 

I have however picked up and dropped off providers on multiple occasions. 

[+ Jamie21]

He should have told you it would be a requirement. But the reason he’s doing it is because it means you’re not a time waster. I’ve done out calls where the client is all keen and seems legitimate but when you arrive he goes silent and you don’t have the correct address (or it’s incomplete). You’re left with no booking, you’ve travelled and wasted your time. 

Now I’m much more careful with out calls. I never bother with the Uber request (because I prefer to be in charge of the travel) but I will ask for a deposit if he seems flaky and I’ll use google maps to research the location (and do other checks). I’ll include the cost of travel in my overall rate. Clients don’t like surprise extra charges, and I agree with them. It’s unprofessional to throw in extra charges late in the day. 
 

[Nightowl]

I think I’ll stick with incalls. The logistics of outcalls is too complicated.

[jackcali]

3 hours ago, acks0104 said:

This is where I got annoyed.  After sending him my info, he sends a message back to say I'll need to send an uber. This is something I've done before, but I've always had the escort mention it before booking a session, not day of. It adds on an extra $100 to the session and it's not something I'm totally against, but I'm wondering if it's enough of an annoyance for others that they'd just cancel or ignore it and continue.

Before you get annoyed, did you consider whether giving him the exact address made him justifiably reconsider whether an Uber to your area was necessary.  I'm not a provider, but living in NYC I'm happy to travel to a distant or dodgy neighborhood if the location is near public transportation, but I'll only take an Uber if it's a long walk from there.  I can afford to make that choice, but an escort can burn up a good part of his fee on round trip Ubers to a one- or two-hour appointment.  

[+ PhileasFogg]

I’ve offered to split it.  If they push back, I cancel.  Amazing how good splitting it sounds 9x out of 10.   In the tenth one, they were probably looking for an excuse anyway. 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

2 hours ago, purplekow said:

when I commute to work. my boss does not pay me. 

THIS. I'm in Brooklyn, about 20 minutes from Downtown NYC or 30 from Midtown. 

It's generally faster to take the subway than to drive to where we live. So Uber is not only an extra expense, but it's inefficient. The only time I take a cab home from Manhattan is late at night. If I were having a provider over at 11 pm or midnight, I'd cover an Uber back. A big issue with Uber - and the key reason that providers want the client to pay is that the cost is unpredictable. With surge pricing, it can cost anywhere from $45 to $180 to get from Midtown to my house. 

2 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

I’ll include the cost of travel in my overall rate. Clients don’t like surprise extra charges, and I agree with them. It’s unprofessional to throw in extra charges late in the day. 

This is the way to approach it. Most providers don't because if they add $50 for Uber to their fee, the Uber can cost 2-3 times that amount. 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

14 hours ago, jackcali said:

Before you get annoyed, did you consider whether giving him the exact address made him justifiably reconsider whether an Uber to your area was necessary

This ⬆️ 

If I intend to hire for an outcall, I give the provider my nearest cross streets in my initial communication when asking for his availability and rate.    (Example: "I can host at my hotel in Manhattan, in Chelsea at 28th & 6th", or travel to you if you're near the subway")  Then, I'll provide the exact address once we've established a rate and meeting time.

Edited Thursday at 03:03 PM by Vegas_Millennial
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[SecretProvider]

7 hours ago, purplekow said:

First, when I commute to work. my boss does not pay me. 

yes but when you have things delivered they do charge you a shipping fee. not many things come with free post. 

[jeezifonly]

3 hours ago, SecretProvider said:

yes but when you have things delivered they do charge you a shipping fee. not many things come with free post. 

So, the higher rate for outcall doesn't cover the provider's transportation? Delivered Things are ordered at the same price per unit they would be for pickup (incall) Shipping is the sole upcharge and is usually the same flat$ for the entire country.

If your service region is large, raise the outcall rate. Or indicate clearly in the ad that the purchaser pays courier shipping, no coupons, no gift wrap, and no returns. 

[+ Jamie21]

3 hours ago, SecretProvider said:

yes but when you have things delivered they do charge you a shipping fee. not many things come with free post. 

I guess the provider could have got himself delivered by Amazon. 

[MscleLovr]

1 hour ago, jeezifonly said:

Delivered Things are ordered at the same price per unit they would be for pickup (incall)

 

1 hour ago, Jamie21 said:

guess the provider could have got himself delivered by Amazon. 

That would be an excellent extension to the offerings on Prime 😎

[+ Just Chuck]

The problem is worse in sprawling cities with no good public transportation.  An ride in Dallas from the gayborhood in Oak Lawn to the suburbs in Plano can easily be 45-90 minutes each way with the meter ticking the whole time.

[italianboyph]

I think with everything no matter what everything should be said up front with both parties. That being said, I don't think this little bump is anything major. 

[SecretProvider]

9 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

I guess the provider could have got himself delivered by Amazon. 

even better to just throw on some ruby slippers and click his heels three times!

[SecretProvider]

9 hours ago, jeezifonly said:

So, the higher rate for outcall doesn't cover the provider's transportation? Delivered Things are ordered at the same price per unit they would be for pickup (incall) Shipping is the sole upcharge and is usually the same flat$ for the entire country.

 

I think you'll find lots of products that come with immediate delivery are actually a higher rate on platforms like amazon and uber eats than if you go in store.

Regardless, for me and I imagine the provider in this scenario as well, the uber request is more about authenticating the client is genuine before I travel out there- because  if they provide an Uber my rate remains the same as incall. 

Edited Thursday at 06:44 PM by SecretProvider

[Mark_fl]

9 hours ago, MscleLovr said:

 

That would be an excellent extension to the offerings on Prime 😎

And as a perk, we would know which providers are rated 'prime'!

[+ DrownedBoy]

If an escort waits until the last minute to ask for an Uber (or a deposit), I cancel immediately. That needs to be discussed during the negotiation process.

It's technically a breach of contract, and I consider to be a scam at well.

Edited Friday at 12:56 AM by DrownedBoy

[Whoisyourdaddy]

I've experienced it all: I've seen last-minute ride requests. I've seen last-minute ride requests where the provider couldn't speak English, and the driver marked me down on the app. Then, I've had guys change their hosting status at the last second because their traveling partner(s) wouldn't leave their room. 

The rides aren't an issue if the provider speaks English well. The last-minute hosting change is frustrating because it takes some coordination to secure a room.

[jeezifonly]

Thank you for validating my choice never to host.