Why does it have to be so complicated?

[+ Pensant]

Occasionally I see an ad for a hot traveling provider. These are generally newbies, often from Colombia, and very hot and hung. They are invariably staying at downscale motels near airports and turn out to be hosting only. When I invite them over, they either respond in-call only, or add a $200 surcharge for taking a $20 Uber, which I’d reimburse for in any case (the Uber, that is; not the surcharge). I wouldn’t object to a $50 surcharge.

This has happened 3 times in the past month. What’s so hard about doing an outcall? I wonder if they’re being “managed” in some way. Either way, I’m not risking an incident visiting a fleabag motel. 

[+ ApexNomad]

1 hour ago, Pensant said:

Occasionally I see an ad for a hot traveling provider. These are generally newbies, often from Colombia, and very hot and hung. They are invariably staying at downscale motels near airports and turn out to be hosting only. When I invite them over, they either respond in-call only, or add a $200 surcharge for taking a $20 Uber, which I’d reimburse for in any case (the Uber, that is; not the surcharge). I wouldn’t object to a $50 surcharge.

This has happened 3 times in the past month. What’s so hard about doing an outcall? I wonder if they’re being “managed” in some way. Either way, I’m not risking an incident visiting a fleabag motel. 

Could very well be. Or they simply don’t know the area too well and would prefer not to travel outside from where they are staying.

[+ DrownedBoy]

Don't forget what would happen to providers visiting from Columbia if Homeland Security got wind in the current political atmosphere.

[SirBillybob]

Uuuuuhaaaaahooooohaaaaawmbia.

[nate_sf]

Their upcharge could also be to account for travel time, if it's anything more than a few minutes. Or they just prefer to get set up in their room with all their stuff available.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

You always have the power to say no...  And you did.

Ultimately, it's up to the escort to run his business whatever way he sees fit.  

It is what it is.

[+ Pensant]

6 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

It is what it is

For sure. I’m just ruminating.

[soloyo215]

22 hours ago, Pensant said:

Occasionally I see an ad for a hot traveling provider. These are generally newbies, often from Colombia, and very hot and hung. They are invariably staying at downscale motels near airports and turn out to be hosting only. When I invite them over, they either respond in-call only, or add a $200 surcharge for taking a $20 Uber, which I’d reimburse for in any case (the Uber, that is; not the surcharge). I wouldn’t object to a $50 surcharge.

This has happened 3 times in the past month. What’s so hard about doing an outcall? I wonder if they’re being “managed” in some way. Either way, I’m not risking an incident visiting a fleabag motel. 

My guess is that it's a "higher-risk situation" fee. You might not have any ill-intentions with the provider, but that's not necessarily the case with others. They are in a foreign land probably with little knowledge of their rights or how to protect themselves.

Just a guess.

[Nightowl]

23 hours ago, Pensant said:

Occasionally I see an ad for a hot traveling provider. These are generally newbies, often from Colombia, and very hot and hung. They are invariably staying at downscale motels near airports and turn out to be hosting only. When I invite them over, they either respond in-call only, or add a $200 surcharge for taking a $20 Uber, which I’d reimburse for in any case (the Uber, that is; not the surcharge). I wouldn’t object to a $50 surcharge.

This has happened 3 times in the past month. What’s so hard about doing an outcall? I wonder if they’re being “managed” in some way. Either way, I’m not risking an incident visiting a fleabag motel. 

Maybe they want to take as many clients as possible during their visit and don’t want to use up too much time traveling.

[Simon Suraci]

On 3/2/2025 at 4:41 AM, Nightowl said:

Maybe they want to take as many clients as possible during their visit and don’t want to use up too much time traveling.

This is definitely a thing. In addition to being a greater risk of losing time should anything go wrong, it takes more time to fulfill an outcall and we have to be strategic with our time when we travel. We are spending more $ traveling so we really have to maximize revenue for it to be profitable and worth our extra effort…otherwise we’d be better off staying home and making the same as we normally do.

Just yesterday I was walking through this with a member here, him requesting an outcall to his city which is an hour away from the city I will be staying in. He wanted a midday massage. It varies by city, but 10-2 window during the day tends to be my most in-demand time.

To do an outcall for him, I would have to set aside 4 1/2 to 5 hours. Breaking it down: 2 hours of driving time; 1 hr (4x 15 min) setups and takedowns on both ends; plus the appointment 1.5 to 2 hrs.

This outcall right smack in the middle of the day means I would lose out on 2-3 other clients at my most popular timeframe. On top of that, if anything goes wrong with the outcall client like canceling at the last minute, ghosting, or whatever, I stand to lose not only my time and gas, his business, but also the business of the two or three other clients who would see me incall. It doesn’t make business sense to do the outcall.

So I suggested an alternative: an evening appointment to minimize my risks and still see the client. I would still have all my popular times filled during the day more or less back to back, and use my less popular later evening time for travel and fulfilling the outcall.

He wasn’t interested in that, so I had to decline and offer to reach out to him if business was slow and I had five hours in the middle of the day to kill. That rarely happens on these trips, and when it does, it’s in places I don’t return back for future visits. But hey, if I am slow I will. Some business is better than no business.

From the client perspective, he only cares about what he wants, when he wants it, how he wants it. I get it. It’s no concern of his how it impacts my business plan or profitability or ability to do the trip in the first place. He doesn’t have to think about those things, but I do. That’s why sometimes traveling providers will be quite selective about where, when, if, and to whom they offer outcall service. For some like me it just doesn’t make business sense for me to fulfill outcalls when I am in demand, having nearly back to back incall appointments scheduled and a running waitlist for last minute cancellations and reschedules.

Quick clarification on masseurs vs escorts. I might do 1-2 escort sessions per day. Sometimes none. Those are way easier to space out and travel for when all you are offering is sex and companionship. You can afford to block out 5 hours or more for a client an hour away because you only have two clients a day. I mostly do massage, however, and take an escort client here and there.

Masseurs, on the other hand, do not have the luxury of wide open flexibility of escort-only providers. We are hustling, working for half the rate doing a lot of physical work on our feet over long hours. I might see up to six massage clients in a day, some of them scheduled back to back ie only 30 min gaps. If I am lucky I have at least one full hour gap in my day to have lunch. It’s a profitable day, to be sure, but there is no room in that kind of schedule to block off five hours to fulfill an outcall an hour away. It just doesn’t make business sense to do that when clients are damn near lining up outside my door!

Hope that sheds some light on why some traveling providers aren’t eager to offer outcalls. Escorts probably a lot more likely. Masseurs probably less likely. A lot of different factors are at play. Maybe some things you’ve never considered.

Edited March 3 by Simon Suraci

[rvwnsd]

On 3/1/2025 at 6:24 AM, Pensant said:

Occasionally I see an ad for a hot traveling provider. These are generally newbies, often from Colombia, and very hot and hung. They are invariably staying at downscale motels near airports and turn out to be hosting only. When I invite them over, they either respond in-call only, or add a $200 surcharge for taking a $20 Uber, which I’d reimburse for in any case (the Uber, that is; not the surcharge). I wouldn’t object to a $50 surcharge.

This has happened 3 times in the past month. What’s so hard about doing an outcall? I wonder if they’re being “managed” in some way. Either way, I’m not risking an incident visiting a fleabag motel. 

By "downscale motel near airports" are you referring to a No-Tell Motel/Days Inn/Motel 6 or a Courtyard by Marriott/Hampton Inn? If the latter, they are not particularly downscale and would be just fine for an hour or two playdate. No-Tell Motel, on the other hand could be pretty dicey.

UPDATE: @Pensant confirmed down-thread he was referring to dirty, mold-covered, bedbug-infested establishments. In other words, makes you wonder whether you should even invite the guy into your home.

[marylander1940]

On 3/1/2025 at 5:24 AM, Pensant said:

Occasionally I see an ad for a hot traveling provider. These are generally newbies, often from Colombia, and very hot and hung. They are invariably staying at downscale motels near airports and turn out to be hosting only. When I invite them over, they either respond in-call only, or add a $200 surcharge for taking a $20 Uber, which I’d reimburse for in any case (the Uber, that is; not the surcharge). I wouldn’t object to a $50 surcharge.

This has happened 3 times in the past month. What’s so hard about doing an outcall? I wonder if they’re being “managed” in some way. Either way, I’m not risking an incident visiting a fleabag motel. 

Where do you live?

It's their business model and maybe they don't know any better. They're just more comfortable staying at an affordable hotel and only doing in calls in a city they don't know. It's up to them to change their business model later if it doesn't work.

 

Edited March 4 by marylander1940

[marylander1940]

On 3/2/2025 at 4:41 AM, Nightowl said:

Maybe they want to take as many clients as possible during their visit and don’t want to use up too much time traveling.

And also stay at an affordable place. Damn if they do and damn if they don't. Guys complain when someone stays downtown and complains when he doesn't

At least everyone knows where the airport is and there's parking right in front of the motel

Edited March 4 by marylander1940

[marylander1940]

On 3/1/2025 at 8:15 AM, DrownedBoy said:

Don't forget what would happen to providers visiting from Columbia if Homeland Security got wind in the current political atmosphere.

What makes you think they are visiting? Some of them could be overstaying their Visa or in legal limbo trying to remain in the country.

[+ Pensant]

7 hours ago, rvwnsd said:

By "downscale motel near airports"

Think places with all “1-star”Google reviews (because you can’t rate 0) and consistent reports of bedbugs, mold and stained carpets and bedding.

[marylander1940]

4 minutes ago, Pensant said:

Think places with all “1-star”Google reviews (because you can’t rate 0) and consistent reports of bedbugs, mold and stained carpets and bedding.

Move on! Plenty of guys available!

[rvwnsd]

7 hours ago, Pensant said:

Think places with all “1-star”Google reviews (because you can’t rate 0) and consistent reports of bedbugs, mold and stained carpets and bedding.

BLECH! Yep, move on. Don't even invite them over. You don't want bedbugs following them into your house.

[+ DrownedBoy]

15 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

What makes you think they are visiting? Some of them could be overstaying their Visa or in legal limbo trying to remain in the country.

(That was the implication)

[Jiminy]

Everytime i see the thread title.

[jeezifonly]

You don’t say what area you’re in, but in LA, for example, everything is so far away when you don’t know the region (gotta know more than DTLA and WeHo) it’s got to be very intimidating for anyone here for the first time on a budget. 
 

The client always has the power to simplify. 
“ok, thx for getting back, I’m sorry we’re not a match. Travel safely”

 

[Archangel]

Also don’t discount that they’re not looking to really provide a service as much as they are to make a quick buck off thirsty guys. It’s quite possible they are just looking to maximize their benefit – economically, temporally, physically, and financially.

[Oakman]

In 2025 we have the ability to sexually connect with strangers simply by pushing a few buttons on our hand held devices. This is the LEAST complicated time for on-demand sex. You’re upset because these guys aren’t arriving with the same convenience of a pizza? 🍕 

[Colton]

On 3/3/2025 at 1:59 PM, Simon Suraci said:

10-2 window during the day tends to be my most in-demand time.

I find this to be very interesting.  I know I prefer that time but didn’t realize others did as well.  

[Archangel]

I don’t do 1hr sessions. But if I did, 10-2 would not be a good time for me. Interesting that it’s the busiest time for some…

[ReynST]

It's exactly as @Simon Suraci said; outcalls take away too much time out of your day. 

At the very least you have to allocate an additional hour for travel and setup and have a safely net if there's traffic on your return trip before your next session.

There's also parking to consider 😖