How come providers don't answer calls?

[d.anders]

This thread demonstrates the end of the world for me. I have never been a phone person. But when I was working, I had a separate phone line for business, and when I didn't use an answering machine, I hired someone to take my calls.

7 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

We do not operate like other businesses.

I get that. Materials and services cost more these days. The ends have to justify the means.

On 2/13/2025 at 8:05 PM, Shawn Monroe said:

Maybe they are in an appointment? 

Nobody works 24/7. If you are in the service business, and you don't allow time to deal with customer inquiries, how can anyone expect to attract a new customer? Ignoring customer contact, especially for new customers, does not make business sense. I do realize there are restaurants now that do not take phone reservations because they don't want to pay for the service. The restaurant business is a low-profit margin business, so I can almost accept that, given what it costs to employ someone these days. However, if that is your business model, and you're charging more than $100 for a meal, I won't be your customer. If a provider does not acknowledge my attempt at communication within 3 days, I move on. I can't take their sense of business seriously.

On 2/13/2025 at 8:15 PM, ThroatCummer said:

How many times do you answer the phone in your real life when someone who calls isn't already in your contact list?

New customers cannot be in my Contact List. You had to be a customer first before you got on the list. For many decades, I built my business from people I did not know having to call me first in order to consider hiring me. I had no choice but to sell my service to a complete stranger over the phone. Today, the internet helps with advertising, but, in certain businesses, it is no replacement for human contact. If you choose to end human contact in a service business, then you might as well say goodbye to the business.

On 2/13/2025 at 9:15 PM, Oakman said:

This business doesn’t work with telephone calls. That is a reality you’ll need to adjust yourself to.

Adjust. We'll have to see about that. I'm now of the age when I no longer give a fuck. You want me to adjust, you insist I must adjust? I say go fuck yourself. (Hypothetically.) Sure, I don't need to talk to someone over the phone before hiring, but you better offer email, or I will never contact you for a hire. I don't own a smartphone. I may never own a smartphone. I can't text, period. You want to make me text in order to hire you? Not going to happen.

21 hours ago, ShortCutie7 said:

I hate phone calls in general.

I never hated a phone call from a prospective customer. Without the phone, I had no other way to build my business. The phone to me was equal to making a living.

10 hours ago, Oakman said:

Sweetheart, you sound very entitled. No one takes calls.

LOL. If anyone sounds entitled to me, it's calling a stranger "sweetheart," and a service provider who refuses to take calls. LOL. What the fuck is wrong with people's minds these days?

7 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

It’s just the one guy handling everything

Does it have to be that way? Is this not an example of the business being cheap or lazy? If you don't care about your business, if you are not fully committed to making money, then I suppose some of this nonsense makes sense. But, for me, the idea of creating a business, or taking time, energy, and money to build one, the goal should be, might be, wanting success. If you have no interest in success, then why bother?

It's obvious to me that many guys only want to dabble at making money. Tip the toe into the water as long as it suits me and my needs just fine. The minute I have to work too hard, then fuck it. Fuck the customer. Sorry guys, for the life of me, I don't see this as a road to success. Good luck with that.

Edited February 15 by d.anders

[SirBillybob]

Because they aren’t in Ernestine about their business …

[ericwinters]

On 2/14/2025 at 2:09 AM, Pd1_jap said:

Who actually talks over the phone anymore? 

Always text. 

Perhaps folks who have visual challenges.

I'm not blind yet, but damn, my eyes are getting worse every day, and it makes my spelling and grammar worse too. I will send a brief text and explain that very fact and ask for a call. If they refuse, I will undoubtedly cross them off the list. Sometimes, providers continue to text, ironic. Some have reported me to Mr. Number for this, alleging that I am a time waster, drug them, or skip out without paying.

[Oakman]

4 hours ago, d.anders said:

This thread demonstrates the end of the world for me. I have never been a phone person. But when I was working, I had a separate phone line for business, and when I didn't use an answering machine, I hired someone to take my calls.

I get that. Materials and services cost more these days. The ends have to justify the means.

Nobody works 24/7. If you are in the service business, and you don't allow time to deal with customer inquiries, how can anyone expect to attract a new customer? Ignoring customer contact, especially for new customers, does not make business sense. I do realize there are restaurants now that do not take phone reservations because they don't want to pay for the service. The restaurant business is a low-profit margin business, so I can almost accept that, given what it costs to employ someone these days. However, if that is your business model, and you're charging more than $100 for a meal, I won't be your customer. If a provider does not acknowledge my attempt at communication within 3 days, I move on. I can't take their sense of business seriously.

New customers cannot be in my Contact List. You had to be a customer first before you got on the list. For many decades, I built my business from people I did not know having to call me first in order to consider hiring me. I had no choice but to sell my service to a complete stranger over the phone. Today, the internet helps with advertising, but, in certain businesses, it is no replacement for human contact. If you choose to end human contact in a service business, then you might as well say goodbye to the business.

Adjust. We'll have to see about that. I'm now of the age when I no longer give a fuck. You want me to adjust, you insist I must adjust? I say go fuck yourself. (Hypothetically.) Sure, I don't need to talk to someone over the phone before hiring, but you better offer email, or I will never contact you for a hire. I don't own a smartphone. I may never own a smartphone. I can't text, period. You want to make me text in order to hire you? Not going to happen.

I never hated a phone call from a prospective customer. Without the phone, I had no other way to build my business. The phone to me was equal to making a living.

LOL. If anyone sounds entitled to me, it's calling a stranger "sweetheart," and a service provider who refuses to take calls. LOL. What the fuck is wrong with people's minds these days?

Does it have to be that way? Is this not an example of the business being cheap or lazy? If you don't care about your business, if you are not fully committed to making money, then I suppose some of this nonsense makes sense. But, for me, the idea of creating a business, or taking time, energy, and money to build one, the goal should be, might be, wanting success. If you have no interest in success, then why bother?

It's obvious to me that many guys only want to dabble at making money. Tip the toe into the water as long as it suits me and my needs just fine. The minute I have to work too hard, then fuck it. Fuck the customer. Sorry guys, for the life of me, I don't see this as a road to success. Good luck with that.

Thank you for doing the Lord’s work, sir! Did they all finally start picking up the phone after this very persuasive missive? 

[Archangel]

On 2/13/2025 at 9:15 PM, Oakman said:

I am going to guess you are 60+ years old? This business doesn’t work with telephone calls. That is a reality you’ll need to adjust yourself to.

That damn Gen Z!

But seriously…I only have a telephone call with new providers if I’m concerned about their English fluency or have another fishy feeling. I would never call out the gate…I might not be Gen Z but I much prefer texting or an email to a phone call with someone I don’t know already. Now…if I know you – I’ll talk for hours! 🤣 

[d.anders]

4 hours ago, Oakman said:

Thank you for doing the Lord’s work, sir! Did they all finally start picking up the phone after this very persuasive missive? 

LOL. These days, I only care if the doctor's office will take and respond to my calls.

I have recently encountered with certain medical "specialists," you have to wait for that service provider to call you. So far, all of them have called me (knock on wood), but not usually within 12 hours during a business week. Sometimes it has taken 2-3 days. I'm beginning to wonder, what will happen when one of them never calls? With the extreme shortage of Primary Care Physicians in America, and the ever changing health care we get, what are younger people going to do when America's health care providers adopt the attitude of several of the providers here? Fuck the phone call and drop dead. When a provider needs service, it'll be interesting to see how he feels when the tables are turned.

I admit, I've become more cynical with age. I try hard not to be a bitter, angry queen, but I see so many younger people not caring about anything. Everyone seems to think they are fabulous, and can do a sex tape and become the next Kim Kardashian. Good luck with that.

I recently had to go to Bloomingdales and do a return, but I forgot where I purchased the item. In my confusion, I stopped at a counter that had a handsome gentlemen, and I asked if he could help me find where I needed to go. He looked at my item, and he said it was the floor above us, but then he said, "Let me try and see if my register will take this return." It worked. He saved me from having to go to another floor and look for that department. I was gobsmacked, and I thanked the guy profusely for his kind service. Hell, I was so elated, I wanted to offer him a BJ. Retail in NYC has gone so far south after Covid, everyone seems to act like they are doing you a favor by just being there (with their face in their phones).

Rant over.

[aiseeya]

On 2/14/2025 at 6:27 AM, afterfallhours1 said:

I've been trying to hook up with providers in NYC but a lot of them goes straight to voicemail or most don't have a voicemail set up when I call. 

They prolly think you are scam caller....

[pubic_assistance]

21 hours ago, afterfallhours1 said:

....I hate when they do this, it's their job to take clients

Maybe only hire men in their 80s who dont know how to use a smart phone. 🤔

[+ Jamie21]

I only take bookings by letter. Handwritten letter (in black ink). I dictate my reply to my secretary whilst I bathe, and my butler arranges for it to be delivered to prospective clients. I can’t be doing with these telephone calls, emails and texts. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

I'd say there's a business opportunity for coordinating escorts meetings, but there's already a job title for that - pimp.

If they ever legalize, and I have the capital, I'll open a nice old fashioned brothel, where old men can get their legacy needs taken care of. And we'll include pay phones while we're at it..

 

[Oakman]

4 hours ago, d.anders said:

I've become more cynical with age. I try hard not to be a bitter, angry queen, but I see so many younger people not caring about anything.

My suggestion to learn to adapt and not complain was given in earnest. The world has changed around all of us, it has always done this. Adaptability is key not just to a key happiness, but to survival. 
 

You are obviously an adroit writer. Embrace the sending of text messages. Learn how to use the “voice to text command.” Learn how to create a photo album on your phone. Be a part of the culture as it is. It never goes backwards. 

[Simon Suraci]

Leave a voicemail

That will solve your problems. The guys who won’t get back in a reasonable time by text won’t be any better at returning calls. Hire the guys who call you back within 24 hrs.

The good ones will call you back, and leave voicemails of their own as needed. The others aren’t worth your time. Let the rest of it go.

I started to explain in long form all the reasons you can’t expect an escort to pick up the phone for a new contact and be ready to discuss details out loud at the moment you decide to call. But it’s not worth my breath. Even I am exhausted running through my long list. I’ll shorten to this.

Clients who prefer phone calls for initial contact and/or exclusive contact fall into two camps:

1) You feel entitled to everyone’s immediate attention over the phone, even if it interrupts something important the other person is doing. You won’t hire because he didn’t pick up on the first ring.

Good luck out there. It’s going to be a very long, unsatisfying winter for you.

2) You understand your providers are busy and that phone calls are the least preferred method of contact for anyone living in the 21st century, especially escorts. But you still want phone communication. So you leave a voicemail, and wait a reasonable period for a reply.

 

[+ azdr0710]

Susann Shaw explains how to dial the new rotary direct-dial phones.......

 

[+ DrownedBoy]

12 hours ago, azdr0710 said:

Susann Shaw explains how to dial the new rotary direct-dial phones.......

 

Yeah, because old men at the time complained. They were used to getting on, talking to an operator, and having the operator connect them.

[Occasional]

14 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

Clients who prefer phone calls for initial contact and/or exclusive contact fall into two camps:

1) You feel entitled to everyone’s immediate attention ...

2) You understand your providers are busy ... but you still want phone communication. So you leave a voicemail, and wait a reasonable period for a reply.

There's a third.  Wait until a provider is online, then send an SMS asking if it's convenient ro ring "for a short call to clear up a couple of points" and stating that you've read their profile in full.  Works for me.

 

Edited February 16 by Occasional
typo

[Archangel]

23 hours ago, d.anders said:

I try hard not to be a bitter, angry queen, but I see so many younger people not caring about anything.

You’re sound like an angry, bitter queen because that’s precisely what angry, bitter queens say. 😉 

[d.anders]

On 2/15/2025 at 8:44 PM, Oakman said:

My suggestion to learn to adapt and not complain was given in earnest.

Sadly, I spent too many years in a NYC corporate environment, playing the dutiful team player and faking my teamsmanship all the way. After decades of this self-inflicted torture, exercised by me to simply make wealthy people wealthier, I can no longer bite my tongue or clench my sphincter tightly, holding back the vile dysentery that comes from an asshole idea, or just an asshole being an asshole. But I do enjoy earnest men.

On 2/15/2025 at 8:44 PM, Oakman said:

The world has changed around all of us, it has always done this.

I have enjoyed much of the change.

On 2/15/2025 at 8:44 PM, Oakman said:

Adaptability is key not just to a key happiness, but to survival.

If one needs a smartphone in order to survive these days, then my days may be numbered, since I can't afford the $1000 phone or the monthly bill that comes with it. My days may be numbered anyway, given my age. So fuck it.

On 2/15/2025 at 8:44 PM, Oakman said:

Learn how to create a photo album on your phone.

LOL. I enjoy looking at other people's photos. My mother was a photographer. 99.9% of the times, when someone offers their smartphone to show me photos, they force me to stand there and wait, and wait, and wait. They can never seem to find the photos they wanted to show me, and eventually give up. No thank you.

On 2/15/2025 at 8:55 PM, Simon Suraci said:

Hire the guys who call you back within 24 hrs. The good ones will call you back

Wise words. Thank goodness there are still good guys out there. I haven't found my newest star angel yet, but I keep looking. That is why I am here.

I enjoy the bonding aspect of good massage work. A great massage requires an exchange of energies, especially when the massage elevates to something more sensual. I adore a man who takes this work seriously. I no longer bother with the others.

[DomKingNYC]

My ad says texts are the quickest way to reach me and my preferred method as I can discretely answer you back wherever I am. These conversations always turn sexual somehow even if they say its not going to be haha and I aint got the time to do all that rated R mess in public on the phone lol.

It seems like however when these clients call and you don't answer they never leave a voicemail and a follow up text is 50/50. I don't have an issue to have a quick call if a client wants if its planned sometime before were scheduled to meet. 

Edited February 17 by DomKingNYC

[pubic_assistance]

8 hours ago, d.anders said:

If one needs a smartphone in order to survive these days, then my days may be numbered, since I can't afford the $1000 phone or the monthly bill that comes with it.

Wow.

I have relatives in their 90s on a fixed income with smart phones.

Maybe it IS time to call it quits !

I don't know who told you a smart phone has to cost $1000. But you're seriously out of touch with the modern world.  There are multiple things I do today, buy tickets, make reservations, order food on an airplane that can ONLY be done on a smart phone.

Edited February 17 by pubic_assistance
grammar

[SthJrsy]

As a massage therapist provider I never answer calls. One, almost no one calls, so when they do its become a red flag. When they do call and I answer it's usually nothing but sexual questions and basically becomes them wanting to waste my time or turn it into phone sex. For these reasons, I will never answer phone calls again.

[d.anders]

18 hours ago, SJrsySlut said:

As a massage therapist provider I never answer calls.

The question isn't necessarily about "answering" a ringing phone, it's about returning or acknowledging a customer's contact. At least that's how I see it. I find it hard to believe that anyone would expect a busy massage therapist, a doctor, a hairdresser, or a nail salon technician to readily be available to take calls while they are working on customers. However, I do have to laugh when I read about guys here who go to the HE types and complain they were on their cell phones during the service.

19 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I have relatives in their 90s on a fixed income with smart phones.

Millions of Americans do not have $400 for an emergency, probably because they are paying $400 a month for their smartphone bill, and they are addicted. They complain about $7 eggs but cannot give up their phone addiction.

19 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

But you're seriously out of touch with the modern world.

My days of caring about modernity are gone, except when it comes to my health care. I recently had a stand-up MRI, and I was thrilled by the ease of service. I ended my Cable TV service during Covid, and I thought that would surely be the end for me. It wasn't. Apart from my age and my health concerns, I've never been happier. My flip-phone service only costs me $100 a year. Considering I rarely use it, or remember to turn it on, I still think I'm overpaying for a cell phone. LOL.

[pubic_assistance]

1 hour ago, d.anders said:

Millions of Americans do not have $400 for an emergency, probably because they are paying $400 a month for their smartphone bill, and they are addicted. They complain about $7 eggs but cannot give up their phone addiction.

You keep exaggerating the cost.

My parents are in their 80s and both have smart phones. Their combined monthly is $180...and their phones were less than $300 each.

It's not about "addiction" to smart phones. The US now assumes you have one becssue there are many things you simply can NOT do without one !

[d.anders]

5 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

You keep exaggerating the cost.

I know several "family plan" users that are paying over $400 a month. I was not exaggerating.

5 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Their combined monthly is $180

On a seriously fixed income, why would I want to pay $60 a month for something I don't need?

5 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

their phones were less than $300 each.

I suppose I could find a refurbished, older iPhone model for under $100. I have no interest in learning a new OS, or losing compatibility with my computer, if that's even relevant.

5 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

It's not about "addiction" to smart phones.

I disagree with that.

5 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

The US now assumes you have one

Because the masses are addicted. Governments and businesses didn't have much choice.

5 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

there are many things you simply can NOT do without one

Well, that list of "many things" hasn't knocked me down yet. I'm fully aware of the conveniences and the clever apps. I'm not anti-tech. In the early 90's, I was one of the first in my circle to own the Nokia 2110, and also the first to use PalmPilot. When I eventually switched my tech to the Apple iMac G3 "gumdrop," my feeling about these gadgets began to change. I no longer play Apple's game. They got enough money from me when I had money. I suppose the day will come when flip-phones will no longer be manufactured, then I will have no choice. Maybe then the iPhone will be available with pre-pay, since I absolutely do not want a monthly plan.

[marylander1940]

On 2/13/2025 at 6:27 PM, afterfallhours1 said:

I've been trying to hook up with providers in NYC but a lot of them goes straight to voicemail or most don't have a voicemail set up when I call. 

In this day and age texting rules and many younger guys just can't handle a phone call.

Text them first, and suggest talking by phone later, I'm sure some simply would tell you they can't talk for days to come because of roommates, being a public place, etc. but a few will find the time to call you and talk to you like humans used to do. 

[marylander1940]

6 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

You keep exaggerating the cost.

My parents are in their 80s and both have smart phones. Their combined monthly is $180...and their phones were less than $300 each.

It's not about "addiction" to smart phones. The US now assumes you have one becssue there are many things you simply can NOT do without one !

Boost mobile users pay $35 per month. Some folks don't even have a plan and simply use internet to use their phone only through WhatsApp.

Agreed, iPhones/Androids are in our lives to stay, there are many things like Uber that can't be done without them but I still prefer checking my bank accounts and other things in a bigger screen like my laptop.