afterfallhours1 Posted February 13, 2025 Posted February 13, 2025 I've been trying to hook up with providers in NYC but a lot of them goes straight to voicemail or most don't have a voicemail set up when I call.
big-n-tall Posted February 13, 2025 Posted February 13, 2025 They may be actually busy, but most I think prefer text over actual calls. Have you tried texting your inquiries? + Pensant, Monarchy79, pubic_assistance and 6 others 3 6
+ DrownedBoy Posted February 13, 2025 Posted February 13, 2025 A lot of escorts, if they're busy, won't even bother following up if they have enough business. That's especially true of younger ones. My advice - they don't respond, you cross them off your list. There's a lot of other guys out there who want your money. italianboyph 1
jeezifonly Posted February 14, 2025 Posted February 14, 2025 Text. Don’t leave voice msg. Don’t ask for voice call until appointment set. pubic_assistance, acks0104, MikeBiDude and 2 others 1 4
Shawn Monroe Posted February 14, 2025 Posted February 14, 2025 Maybe they are in an appointment? rvwnsd, williamv, Simon Suraci and 1 other 1 3
+ SportBud7 Posted February 14, 2025 Posted February 14, 2025 How many times do you answer the phone in your real life when someone who calls isn't already in your contact list? For me: ZERO afterfallhours1, SecretProvider, Moke and 19 others 5 17
Oakman Posted February 14, 2025 Posted February 14, 2025 (edited) I am going to guess you are 60+ years old? This business doesn’t work with telephone calls. That is a reality you’ll need to adjust yourself to. Don’t call unless you’ve been invited to do so. Put yourself in the provider’s position. He’s not sitting at a desk waiting for phone calls. He may be at his day job, running errands or doing any number of things. Managing dozens of inquiry calls, many of which may not be serious inquiries, is an imposition. Making an initial inquiry and negotiating the meet-up by text message (on the app he requests) is going to be convenient for him. Edited February 14, 2025 by Oakman + Act25, MikeBiDude, + Pensant and 12 others 6 3 5 1
mike carey Posted February 14, 2025 Posted February 14, 2025 1 hour ago, ThroatCummer said: How many times do you answer the phone in your real life when someone who calls isn't already in your contact list? For me: ZERO I'm more inclined to answer calls from mobiles than from landlines, and started this approach when close to zero land line calls were real while a reasonable proportion of mobile ones were. It helps that caller ID here shows the town on land line calls but not on mobile (and mobiles don't have geographically linked numbers). That call I'm getting from rural Queensland or Thailand ain't gonna be someone I know, and they can text or leave a voicemail. If those are in Chinese, I know I made the right decision. And 'BigDickTop' whose profile I left a track on won't know my phone number. + Charlie 1
+ ApexNomad Posted February 14, 2025 Posted February 14, 2025 1 hour ago, ThroatCummer said: How many times do you answer the phone in your real life when someone who calls isn't already in your contact list? For me: ZERO Even people I do know go to voicemail. + Charlie, + Drew Collins, Simon Suraci and 6 others 3 2 2 2
+ SportBud7 Posted February 14, 2025 Posted February 14, 2025 51 minutes ago, ApexNomad said: Even people I do know go to voicemail. My voicemail message literally says: "You've reached [my name]. I don't regularly check voicemail, so if you need me, please send a text, e-mail, or reach out through any one of the 100 more modern communication methods for a response. *BEEP*" + ApexNomad, jackcali, + Pensant and 7 others 5 2 3
guest Posted February 14, 2025 Posted February 14, 2025 I wouldn't even call my own family without texting first. If an unknown number called me I would never ever answer it. Even worse if it was a private number. Always text first - it is good manners. + Charlie, + Pensant, jackcali and 3 others 2 2 1 1
Pd1_jap Posted February 14, 2025 Posted February 14, 2025 Who actually talks over the phone anymore? Always text. pubic_assistance, peter831 and + Charlie 1 1 1
+ Jamie21 Posted February 14, 2025 Posted February 14, 2025 I prefer a text or WhatsApp. I’m often busy, or in public/with others so it’s not convenient or appropriate to be discussing booking details with clients on the phone. I have one regular client who always calls to book, and his name comes up so I know it’s him and I answer. That’s fine, because all we discuss is availability and booking. He’s an older guy (I’m guessing 70’s) so I understand why he wouldn’t text. All my other clients book by text or email. If there’s complicated questions then I sometimes offer a phone call. With people’s busy schedules it’s so much more efficient to engage via text. Simon Suraci, pubic_assistance and + Charlie 1 1 1
Keenan Posted February 14, 2025 Posted February 14, 2025 If I'm at my day job or around other people I know I typically won't answer the phone. Personally I prefer that the client text or email me to setup the appointment and then afterwards we can talk prior to the appointment if necessary. + Charlie, Simon Suraci and pubic_assistance 1 1 1
ShortCutie7 Posted February 14, 2025 Posted February 14, 2025 I hate phone calls in general. They are incredibly disruptive unless planned/scheduled in advance. In fact, one of the reasons that I don’t even text providers (I instead communicate via RM messenger) is that I don’t want them calling me! williamv, Simon Suraci, pubic_assistance and 2 others 4 1
Shawn Monroe Posted February 14, 2025 Posted February 14, 2025 6 minutes ago, ShortCutie7 said: I hate phone calls in general. They are incredibly disruptive unless planned/scheduled in advance. In fact, one of the reasons that I don’t even text providers (I instead communicate via RM messenger) is that I don’t want them calling me! Thank you. disruptive - especially if you’re returning a missed phone call. but a lot of people don’t have good phone etiquette. They don’t know how to have an efficient conversation, they’ll meander and continue doing the other thing they were doing before the phone call started, and you’re just holding a phone up to your ear and waiting. when I started, I’d try to take and return phone calls. But when I realized how uncourteous people could be, I all but stopped. pubic_assistance, + Charlie, Simon Suraci and 1 other 2 1 1
Solution + SportBud7 Posted February 14, 2025 Solution Posted February 14, 2025 There's also a setting at least on your iPhone to "Silence Unknown Callers" so if they aren't already in your contact list, your phone never rings at all. I have this set at all times. Sure, I miss some important calls from maybe an insurance company or the state where I live, but they always send a notification e-mail or a USPS mail letter if it is really important. In 2025, I seriously have no use for answering anyone who isn't already in my contact list. It's good fraud/scam prevention as well. If at all possible, I urge others to do similar. + Charlie, pubic_assistance and Simon Suraci 2 1
soloyo215 Posted February 15, 2025 Posted February 15, 2025 On 2/13/2025 at 6:27 PM, afterfallhours1 said: I've been trying to hook up with providers in NYC but a lot of them goes straight to voicemail or most don't have a voicemail set up when I call. Probably busy or maybe they might prefer text. Please keep in mind that they do have to weed out people who might probably look/feel problematic to them or time wasters. Have you tried texting? Do their profile specify preferred method of communication? They might also not be available when you call. Best wishes. pubic_assistance and + Charlie 1 1
afterfallhours1 Posted February 15, 2025 Author Posted February 15, 2025 4 hours ago, ThroatCummer said: There's also a setting at least on your iPhone to "Silence Unknown Callers" so if they aren't already in your contact list, your phone never rings at all. I have this set at all times. Sure, I miss some important calls from maybe an insurance company or the state where I live, but they always send a notification e-mail or a USPS mail letter if it is really important. In 2025, I seriously have no use for answering anyone who isn't already in my contact list. It's good fraud/scam prevention as well. If at all possible, I urge others to do similar. Ah that makes sense and why I call guys I've never met or chatted before and it goes straight to voicemail. I hate when they do this, it's their job to take clients pubic_assistance, AtticusBK and DMonDude 3
Oakman Posted February 15, 2025 Posted February 15, 2025 24 minutes ago, afterfallhours1 said: Ah that makes sense and why I call guys I've never met or chatted before and it goes straight to voicemail. I hate when they do this, it's their job to take clients Sweetheart, you sound very entitled. No one takes calls. You’d have similar luck writing them letters. Learn how to adapt, not complain. pubic_assistance, + Act25, MikeBiDude and 3 others 5 1
Cretus Posted February 15, 2025 Posted February 15, 2025 Providers have also mentioned time wasters who look to jack off while having the conversation for free. pubic_assistance, + DrownedBoy and + Charlie 3
BuffaloKyle Posted February 15, 2025 Posted February 15, 2025 I know I'd want all the pertinent details of a session to be in texts. Such as time, place, and rate so there is no possible confusion on either end. Do all that over text and then you can ask for a phone call. pubic_assistance and + Charlie 1 1
+ ApexNomad Posted February 15, 2025 Posted February 15, 2025 18 hours ago, Pd1_jap said: Who actually talks over the phone anymore? Always text. Pd1_jap, + Charlie, pubic_assistance and 3 others 1 1 4
ShortCutie7 Posted February 15, 2025 Posted February 15, 2025 1 minute ago, Simon Suraci said: The chances of your provider being in a private, quiet, safe, undistracted environment with full availability and attention for your questions at the exact moment you want to call … is quite low. EXACTLY! This concept applies to every phone call ever, which is why I will never understand why some people automatically default to calling (or expect me to pick up if they call me while I’m at work etc). pubic_assistance, Cretus, Simon Suraci and 1 other 4
d.anders Posted February 15, 2025 Posted February 15, 2025 (edited) This thread demonstrates the end of the world for me. I have never been a phone person. But when I was working, I had a separate phone line for business, and when I didn't use an answering machine, I hired someone to take my calls. 7 hours ago, Simon Suraci said: We do not operate like other businesses. I get that. Materials and services cost more these days. The ends have to justify the means. On 2/13/2025 at 8:05 PM, Shawn Monroe said: Maybe they are in an appointment? Nobody works 24/7. If you are in the service business, and you don't allow time to deal with customer inquiries, how can anyone expect to attract a new customer? Ignoring customer contact, especially for new customers, does not make business sense. I do realize there are restaurants now that do not take phone reservations because they don't want to pay for the service. The restaurant business is a low-profit margin business, so I can almost accept that, given what it costs to employ someone these days. However, if that is your business model, and you're charging more than $100 for a meal, I won't be your customer. If a provider does not acknowledge my attempt at communication within 3 days, I move on. I can't take their sense of business seriously. On 2/13/2025 at 8:15 PM, ThroatCummer said: How many times do you answer the phone in your real life when someone who calls isn't already in your contact list? New customers cannot be in my Contact List. You had to be a customer first before you got on the list. For many decades, I built my business from people I did not know having to call me first in order to consider hiring me. I had no choice but to sell my service to a complete stranger over the phone. Today, the internet helps with advertising, but, in certain businesses, it is no replacement for human contact. If you choose to end human contact in a service business, then you might as well say goodbye to the business. On 2/13/2025 at 9:15 PM, Oakman said: This business doesn’t work with telephone calls. That is a reality you’ll need to adjust yourself to. Adjust. We'll have to see about that. I'm now of the age when I no longer give a fuck. You want me to adjust, you insist I must adjust? I say go fuck yourself. (Hypothetically.) Sure, I don't need to talk to someone over the phone before hiring, but you better offer email, or I will never contact you for a hire. I don't own a smartphone. I may never own a smartphone. I can't text, period. You want to make me text in order to hire you? Not going to happen. 21 hours ago, ShortCutie7 said: I hate phone calls in general. I never hated a phone call from a prospective customer. Without the phone, I had no other way to build my business. The phone to me was equal to making a living. 10 hours ago, Oakman said: Sweetheart, you sound very entitled. No one takes calls. LOL. If anyone sounds entitled to me, it's calling a stranger "sweetheart," and a service provider who refuses to take calls. LOL. What the fuck is wrong with people's minds these days? 7 hours ago, Simon Suraci said: It’s just the one guy handling everything Does it have to be that way? Is this not an example of the business being cheap or lazy? If you don't care about your business, if you are not fully committed to making money, then I suppose some of this nonsense makes sense. But, for me, the idea of creating a business, or taking time, energy, and money to build one, the goal should be, might be, wanting success. If you have no interest in success, then why bother? It's obvious to me that many guys only want to dabble at making money. Tip the toe into the water as long as it suits me and my needs just fine. The minute I have to work too hard, then fuck it. Fuck the customer. Sorry guys, for the life of me, I don't see this as a road to success. Good luck with that. Edited February 15, 2025 by d.anders EastbayMike, massagefan320, + DrownedBoy and 3 others 1 1 2 2
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