cany10011 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 7 hours ago, Storm4U said: When I did overnights, I was expected to spend the night, wake-up with them the next morning and give them one more "send off," and sometimes even have breakfast with them before I left. One of my best overnights was a Russian guy I met in Stockholm. He woke up before me, rinsed in the shower and gave me a wonderful morning "send off" instinctively... I didn't even know to ask for it, but he just did it. He's wonderful and I met up with him again last year in Warsaw. Luv2play, + claym, + ApexNomad and 6 others 7 2
Luv2play Posted February 28 Posted February 28 11 hours ago, Storm4U said: When I did overnights, I was expected to spend the night, wake-up with them the next morning and give them one more "send off," and sometimes even have breakfast with them before I left. Yes. And…..
MscleLovr Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Interesting thread overall. i always enjoyed the overnight dates I had. The relaxed times we had talking at a play or gallery visit and over dinner acted as foreplay to the intense erotic times we spent exploring each other. A big part of an overnight date for me was to have my guy fellate me in the morning. I’d wake up early and shower, and get back into bed to be sucked off to completion. The best times we’d cuddle afterwards and then eat breakfast. If ever I found a potential overnight date wasn’t keen to have morning sex, I’d only arrange 2-3 hours in the afternoon or evening with him. liubit, + Vegas_Millennial, Occasional and 1 other 2 1 1
Mo Mason Posted March 1 Posted March 1 On 2/2/2025 at 5:04 AM, Jamie21 said: Reality check: you hired a guy you really like for an overnight. 12 hours. The evening started well, a drink in the bar, some flirting, getting to know each other. He’s engaging, intriguing, sexy. He looks only at you as you talk, he touches your hand as it rests on your thigh, he squeezes it while he casually orders you another drink. Over dinner he listens to your stories, smiling, nodding, asking questions. All the while dropping you teasers about what will happen later, in the bedroom both on and off the bed…especially off the bed. You’re hard under the table, driven there by the anticipation he’s built up. As you eat dessert your excitement causes you to get some ice cream on your fingers. He reaches over, takes your creamy hand slowly lifts it to his face, and licks your fingers clean… all the while maintaining eye contact with you. The lift takes for ever to reach your floor, stopping at every floor to let people out. He’s holding your hand, standing so close to you that you’re sure he can feel your heart beating. Now there’s just the two of you plus a hotel employee, who must be going to your floor, because the only remaining floor button lit up is yours. The lift ascends and as it does he leans in and kisses you, cradling your head with his hand, his body pressing you against the lift wall. The hotel employee turns to face the doors, and she exits quickly as they open on your floor. You try to move towards the door but he’s pinned you to the wall, kissing you passionately, his hard cock pressed against yours. Finally he steps back and taking your hand he leads you out of the lift and then he pauses, realising he doesn’t know your room number. You look at each other and grin, but before you can do anything he pulls you in for another kiss, and as he does so he reaches around to your back pocket and pulls out your room card, reads the number and silently leads you to the room. It’s early hours of the morning. You awake at the glint of light peeking through the gap in the curtains. He’s asleep next to you, facing away from you. Your arm is around his body, your chest against his back, you feel his warmth and slow deep breathing. You recall the two, three, was it four rounds of passionate sex. The shower session, the bedroom floor, the chair. Now he sleeps. A thought pops into your head: I paid $2400 for this, that’s $200 an hour…am I being ripped off for the hours he’s asleep? No! Worth every penny! pubic_assistance and cany10011 1 1
Mo Mason Posted March 1 Posted March 1 On 9/18/2024 at 7:57 AM, SamRockdale said: To each their own, but evening to late morning allows for play, ample cuddles, and a good morning kiss on the forehead. You're into cuddles and kissing? I wouldn't guess that based on your rentmen profiles. "Toxic College Findom". Yikes. pubic_assistance 1
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted March 2 Posted March 2 20 hours ago, Mo Mason said: You're into cuddles and kissing? I wouldn't guess that based on your rentmen profiles. "Toxic College Findom". Yikes. Even Sears had a softer side rvwnsd, PoundMeOnaPlane, + DrownedBoy and 4 others 7
TheBossBabyback Posted March 19 Posted March 19 On 2/28/2025 at 3:34 AM, Gar1eth said: In my previous hiring career, I did lots of overnights. ( I don't hire anymore-for one thing I have no money. And even if I did, my libido is mostly in the 'toilet'. My urologist on seeing how low my testosterone level was recently said, "I'm surprised you're awake.") They were usually around 12 to 14 hours. But I made a night of it. I didn't usually have a lot of friends, so often if the timing worked we'd have dinner and go to a show of some type. It didn't always work out-but that was what I preferred. As for the 'playtime' when we finally made it back to the hotel-well let's just say that Carol Hall had me in mind when she wrote, "lots of goodwill and maybe one small thrill. But there's nothing dirty going on". So it's not like my playtime lasted that long or would be considered overly strenuous by most experienced providers. I'm a bit of a night owl-ok-a lot of a night owl. So after a show-and maybe dessert -we might not get back to bed until 1 AM or later to play. Now of course in most cases, I'd discuss the plan of events with the guy to make sure he was ok with that. As for snoring-I have sleep apnea-and use a bipap machine. I always tried to remember to tell the escort to make sure they could get to sleep with me wearing it. If the escort told me they were a light sleeper, I knew, it wouldn't work out. At least one escort had his own. So we had dueling machines overnight. In one case I forgot to mention me using a machine. When I told the escort-before we met- he acted like I was trying to pull something over on him. And I canceled the meeting. I think he may still be advertising. In two particular cases that I can remember the guys didn't stay all night (probably happened more than that. But these two episodes stick in my mind. ) In another case one guy didn't even last thru the musical and left at intermission-but that's another story). These two episode were not planned that way (or at least not by me)-one guy David (hasn't escorted in 20 years as far as I can tell so don't mind using his escort nom de plume) claimed he had bad back problems. It had been a pretty good meeting up to that point. I think we had eaten- and then gone to see a traveling production of Wicked in Miami or Ft. Lauderdale. The escort was nice enough and secure enough that he even allowed a bit of public affection (I'm not talking anything overboard. I think my hand was occasionally on his knee during the performance and vice versa). I think I remember being mildly out of sorts when he left. But again the night had been very nice -so I wasn't horribly put out. The other main time I remember. The escort's initials were AW. He doesn't have a great reputation on here. He was fairly decent to me-seemed a bit stuck on himself. Of course if I had looked like him very possibly -what do I mean possibly-I'd probably be worse. Turns out he was from Texas originally. So that was nice. (Some people on here might remember him) We had gone to a show on broadway. Hugh Jackman was in something called 'The River'. Neither of us was that impressed by the play. After the play we went to The Palms steakhouse. (I wasn't that impressed by The Palms either. I don't know what it is. At a lot of these fancy steak restaurants-I wonder if they grill the steak with butter. Maybe that's not it. But the steaks often taste a bit sour to me.) In any case after the show and dinner, we went back to the hotel. By this time it was very late. We played a bit. I'll have to admit that 'Junior' was a bit over anxious, and I came too soon. He said he had dogs he had to care for and ended leaving probably around 3 AM. It was a bit disappointing. But on the other hand-often after I had cum I wasn't that interested in continuing (in other cases I was wanting to cuddle), so I don't think I felt awful-also if I'm recalling right, he wasn't the best kisser. As for morning play-seems to me that didn't happen often. But as I said, we often didn't get to sleep until around 3 AM. So the escorts may have taken that into consideration. Oh and let me just state for the record-I wasn't into PNP-I'm just naturally a night owl. It's more difficult now that I'm in my 60's. But it's still the way my body time clock skews. coming home from a play and dinner at 1 or 3 am? You were keeping gilded age all nighter hours. But considering they got to keep their clothes on, it sounds like a good deal.
Rod Hagen Posted March 19 Posted March 19 On 2/27/2025 at 10:17 PM, Storm4U said: When I did overnights, I was expected to spend the night, wake-up with them the next morning and give them one more "send off," and sometimes even have breakfast with them before I left. Always breakfast . I loved breakfast in the morning with clients. First blowjobs in bed with roomservice coffee. Later they roll in the Table (pot of coffee, two doppio espressos, carafe of fresh squeezed orange juice or Watermelon Juice, bread and bakery basket, one dish of eggs and hash or eggs and bacon and one dish of waffle with vanilla and maple sauce, or Lemon Ricotta pancakes (I didn't know that was pedestrian when I was young, I only knew it was delicious), or French Toast and berries, also a bowl of berries) and if possible we ask to have it set up on the balcony, and if no balcony that's ok, because then it's safer for additional blowjobs under the tablecloth. pubic_assistance, TheBossBabyback, Simon Suraci and 2 others 3 2
Storm4U Posted March 19 Posted March 19 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Rod Hagen said: Always breakfast . I loved breakfast in the morning with clients. First blowjobs in bed with roomservice coffee. Later they roll in the Table (pot of coffee, two doppio espressos, carafe of fresh squeezed orange juice or Watermelon Juice, bread and bakery basket, one dish of eggs and hash or eggs and bacon and one dish of waffle with vanilla and maple sauce, or Lemon Ricotta pancakes (I didn't know that was pedestrian when I was young, I only knew it was delicious), or French Toast and berries, also a bowl of berries) and if possible we ask to have it set up on the balcony, and if no balcony that's ok, because then it's safer for additional blowjobs under the tablecloth. Me too! When I think about the parts of the business that I miss… that is one of the things I miss the most! Edited March 19 by Storm4U TheBossBabyback, Rod Hagen and pubic_assistance 1 1 1
Pepper Young Posted June 4 Posted June 4 Even though I pursued this hobby for years now, I've never met a provider I'd seriously consider an overnight with. But I finally met one. (I did hire one guy for 5 - 6 hours and it was OK. Never saw him again and he stopped advertising. Just as well.) Since this was new territory for me I had the usual questions. What is considered "overnight"? To me it's 12 hours. Cost? Just ask him. (My rule of thumb is not to negotiate with these guys. What's worth having is worth paying for. However, I'm not a fool.) Activities? Besides sex, they include dinner, drinks at a downtown bar or club, talk (I love hearing these guy's stories), cuddles. I pay for all extras. Coffee in bed the next morning sounds like heaven. Thanks for answering a lot of my questions! BonVivant 1
Luv2play Posted June 4 Posted June 4 You’re going in the right direction. The only thing I don’t do is coffee in bed in the morning. I like to get up, clean myself up, and head down for breakfast with the escort if in a hotel or down to my kitchen where I make breakfast.
Guest Posted June 17 Posted June 17 Overnight is 12 hours. It's always been for at least the last 2 decades for me. But definitely ask for the provider's perspective beforehand. I don't do pnp with escorts, I just really like the sleeping together part. Literal sleeping. So I would hope that the provider is comfortable with that.
Player1Ready Posted June 21 Posted June 21 On 5/30/2024 at 7:24 PM, Muscleking said: Hey guys I have a question.. I’m going on a work trip next week, and was chatting with a guy I hire from time to time and he proposed an overnight, I assumed for overnight means you stay with the escort all night have some fun then sleep together and wake up together etc, he explained to me that over night just means spending the whole night together not sleeping together so usually like 5/6 hours of fun then he goes home. I’ve never done an overnight so wasn’t sure how it works? Any advices ? Breakfast in bed is a must for me.
Alchemy Posted Tuesday at 10:31 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:31 PM (edited) Tangential: I've had a couple guys who arrived for two-hour sessions and then asked if they could spend the night. (No, they weren't homeless.) I agreed because I enjoyed their company. Even though it resulted in more sex, I did let them sleep. Heck, I needed the sleep, too. ... Personally, I find travel rates preferable to overnight rates. Just my preference but I'd rather spread the sex over a few days and enjoy their company in other ways: meals out, shows, museums, whatever. Edited Tuesday at 10:31 PM by Alchemy Simon Suraci and + Vegas_Millennial 2
+ ApexNomad Posted Wednesday at 02:12 AM Posted Wednesday at 02:12 AM 3 hours ago, Alchemy said: Even though it resulted in more sex… Bummer. Tom C. Sinclair, mike carey and Alchemy 3
Tom C. Sinclair Posted Wednesday at 03:29 AM Posted Wednesday at 03:29 AM Overnight means…overnight. What is all this ambiguity we seem to have about simple words. In any other context where someone would say “I’m going to stay overnight in London on my way to Budapest,” or “I have an overnight flight,” we know exactly what that means. It’s overnight. From tonight to tomorrow. This isn’t hard, people. An overnight for me has always meant the guy stays, sleeps with me, and we part ways the next day. It’s really straightforward.
Bargara Leatherboy Posted Wednesday at 04:50 AM Posted Wednesday at 04:50 AM I have enjoyed overnights..... but the KEY here is communication. I wrote on here some years ago - that I had a goal to hire 3 well known escorts in this fourm. One of them messaged me, saying he had seen my add and that we should make it happen. I live in Australia, he was living in Bali. I had a trip to Bali booked - so we worked out some details. After some messenger chat - he suggested we talk on messenger and set up a time that suited both of us. We talked for over 1 hour, about what I wanted in the session, and he upsold me to a overnight. He was in Ubud, I was going to be in Nusa Dua. He suggested I spend a night in Ubud, as that would cut down his travel time - which he charged for. So I looked around found a great 1 bedroom villa, with lap pool, outdoor kitchen and terrace. I sent him the links and he approved. During our conversations and on his profile he mentioned his liking for a cigar and a single malt. I am partial to both - so I grabbed some good single malt and some cigars at duty free. We talked about a 14 hour time period of which he said he would want to sleep for around 6 hours. The night arrived, I had had a swim and a relax in the sun, showered. He arrived and we started with a very long hug. We chatted, had a drink, got to know each other,I was presented with a choice of underwear that he would wear for foreplay, ordered dinner, had some intro play, dinner arrived, we ate, drank some single malt, and then the main course arrived. He was a great kisser, we had some relaxed but hot play, we had a shower, we sat outside on the terrace watched the full moon, ( his naked body pressed up against mine) smoked a cigar, drank some single malt, he relaxed on a lounger by the pool, smoking a cigar while I smoked his cigar .... Back to bed for some more fun Slept Relaxed morning, I made coffee after we had dealt with morning wood - he had a shower, I gave him what was left of the cigars and single malt, and of course paid his $1400USD donation with a tip. It was worth every penny pubic_assistance, + Just Sayin, Alchemy and 3 others 4 1 1
savantsav Posted Wednesday at 04:06 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:06 PM (edited) So I just had my first overnight ever and in part I felt taken advantage of but then again I was the one who agreed to it. I met this guy in NY earlier this year and we had a fun time for 3hrs, we kept chatting and I agreed to fly him to LA and put him in a hotel and have an overnight, he quoted to me 4k for 10-8AM. We met around 8:30, had dinner at a nearby restaurant, went back to the suite and had fun until about 12:30 where we went to sleep... I woke up around 6:30am, rinsed/showered and waited for him to wake up... which he did around 7:30, we cuddled a bit, tried to get frisky and he said "good luck if you can get it up, I'm not a morning horny person", so we got room service breakfast, we ate and I left almost at 9. There was no 'fun' in the morning just in the evening. So afterwards he texts me asking if everything is OK and I mentioned that I was expecting some fun in the morning which didn't happen and he apologized profusely and asked if I could come over to the hotel later that day so he could make it up to me, I did, we played for a couple of hours and then I left so in a sense he did make up for it but at the same time I felt like I should've done a better job setting expectations. He has reached out about trying to do another one and I haven't replied yet but I am definitely going to tell him that I expect some sexy play time in the evening (2hrs) and sexy time in the morning (2hrs) and that I don't see a good return for me to pay 2k for the sexy time and 2k for sleeping 6 hours together. Any insight I could have? Yes, caveat emptor and I don't regret it because it's a life experience. Edited Wednesday at 04:09 PM by savantsav
Tom C. Sinclair Posted Wednesday at 04:41 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:41 PM @savantsav, communicate is all I can say. Although I would also say that length of time for an overnight is also on the short end. I typically hire for multiple days if the guy is staying overnight though. I don’t like worrying about time when it’s an overnight and it seems that many guys just want to reduce their hourly rate and go multiples of that per the number of hours they’re with you if you do only one night. If you do multiple nights, it becomes less stressful as far as the clock becomes everyone realizes this is an extended duration. I hate time haggling as much as money haggling. Both seem opportunistic. This is supposed to be enjoyable, not cutthroat.
savantsav Posted Wednesday at 06:01 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:01 PM That’s what I’m thinking of saying that having two sessions of 3hrs in two different days is half the rate of an overnight that only has one block of play.
+ ApexNomad Posted Wednesday at 06:23 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:23 PM 2 hours ago, savantsav said: So I just had my first overnight ever and in part I felt taken advantage of but then again I was the one who agreed to it. I met this guy in NY earlier this year and we had a fun time for 3hrs, we kept chatting and I agreed to fly him to LA and put him in a hotel and have an overnight, he quoted to me 4k for 10-8AM. We met around 8:30, had dinner at a nearby restaurant, went back to the suite and had fun until about 12:30 where we went to sleep... I woke up around 6:30am, rinsed/showered and waited for him to wake up... which he did around 7:30, we cuddled a bit, tried to get frisky and he said "good luck if you can get it up, I'm not a morning horny person", so we got room service breakfast, we ate and I left almost at 9. There was no 'fun' in the morning just in the evening. So afterwards he texts me asking if everything is OK and I mentioned that I was expecting some fun in the morning which didn't happen and he apologized profusely and asked if I could come over to the hotel later that day so he could make it up to me, I did, we played for a couple of hours and then I left so in a sense he did make up for it but at the same time I felt like I should've done a better job setting expectations. He has reached out about trying to do another one and I haven't replied yet but I am definitely going to tell him that I expect some sexy play time in the evening (2hrs) and sexy time in the morning (2hrs) and that I don't see a good return for me to pay 2k for the sexy time and 2k for sleeping 6 hours together. Any insight I could have? Yes, caveat emptor and I don't regret it because it's a life experience. First off, thanks for sharing your experience. I’m sorry it didn’t unfold the way you’d hoped. Honestly, for me it’s the attitude that stings more than anything else. $4K is no small amount, and on top of that you flew him out and presumably covered dinner too. Sure, expectations could have been clarified upfront, but this was your first overnight, that alone takes things up a level. You deserved to feel special and appreciated the whole time, not like you were just paying for someone to sleep beside you. “Good luck getting it up”? Absolutely not. Where’s the incentive to spend that kind of money again if he isn’t making your fantasies a priority? Making YOU a priority! It’s nice that he checked in after, but at the end of the day, you paid a lot for more than being shut down.
savantsav Posted Wednesday at 07:02 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:02 PM (edited) 39 minutes ago, ApexNomad said: First off, thanks for sharing your experience. I’m sorry it didn’t unfold the way you’d hoped. Honestly, for me it’s the attitude that stings more than anything else. $4K is no small amount, and on top of that you flew him out and presumably covered dinner too. Sure, expectations could have been clarified upfront, but this was your first overnight, that alone takes things up a level. You deserved to feel special and appreciated the whole time, not like you were just paying for someone to sleep beside you. “Good luck getting it up”? Absolutely not. Where’s the incentive to spend that kind of money again if he isn’t making your fantasies a priority? Making YOU a priority! It’s nice that he checked in after, but at the end of the day, you paid a lot for more than being shut down. Thank you for your words and yes, I flew him business NY-LA and put him in a suite in Beverly Hills for 4 days. I am exploring and trying to find a good match for something like this and TBH the quality of the guys in LA leaves a lot to be desired and when we met in NY I felt that connection that I've not been able to feel with anyone here in LA. Having said that, yes, I expected more time and considering his 3hr rate is 1450, asking 4k for 3hrs + 6hrs of sleep to be too steep, I don't mind paying it for something where I can get much more in return but I guess we learn every day. We are meeting next week for 3hrs as he'll be back in LA and after our meet I plan to send him a long message explaining what my expectations are moving forward and if he can great and if he can't then I'll move on. Edited Wednesday at 07:03 PM by savantsav cany10011 1
BoyGeorgeandMarilyn Posted Wednesday at 07:28 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:28 PM On 3/19/2025 at 11:50 PM, Storm4U said: Me too! When I think about the parts of the business that I miss… that is one of the things I miss the most! To be honest , Most of clients do not book overnights only 1 hour or 2 for a good shag
56harrisond Posted Wednesday at 07:40 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:40 PM 35 minutes ago, savantsav said: Thank you for your words and yes, I flew him business NY-LA and put him in a suite in Beverly Hills for 4 days. You had one short overnight session, what did he do the other days when he wasn't with you?
+ ApexNomad Posted Wednesday at 07:46 PM Posted Wednesday at 07:46 PM 42 minutes ago, savantsav said: Thank you for your words and yes, I flew him business NY-LA and put him in a suite in Beverly Hills for 4 days. I am exploring and trying to find a good match for something like this and TBH the quality of the guys in LA leaves a lot to be desired and when we met in NY I felt that connection that I've not been able to feel with anyone here in LA. Having said that, yes, I expected more time and considering his 3hr rate is 1450, asking 4k for 3hrs + 6hrs of sleep to be too steep, I don't mind paying it for something where I can get much more in return but I guess we learn every day. We are meeting next week for 3hrs as he'll be back in LA and after our meet I plan to send him a long message explaining what my expectations are moving forward and if he can great and if he can't then I'll move on. I really think you’re right to pause and reflect here. To be blunt, it does feel like there was some taking advantage and definitely a lack of appreciation. You flew him business class, put him up in a Beverly Hills suite for four days, that’s not just generous, that’s extraordinary. Was there ever a conversation about whether you’d see him during the rest of that trip? Because my guess is he structured those extra days at your expense so he could line up other clients. That’s a hard pill to swallow when you were the one footing the bill. What really strikes me is the level of care you showed: the airfare, the accommodations, the effort. That’s the kind of generosity that deserves to be matched with attentiveness, effort, and respect on his part. Instead, you got a dismissive comment in the morning and a make-up session only after you voiced disappointment. Honestly, the follow-up was the bare minimum given what you invested. I’ve seen guys give so much more for a lot less. Communication is absolutely key going forward, but the bigger point here is you have every right to expect not just the physical time, but the energy, attentiveness, and appreciation that reflects what you put in. Anything less is just taking. liubit, pubic_assistance and + Just Sayin 1 1 1
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