Condom and bareback discrepancy

[+ JamesB]

1 hour ago, blck37 said:

Had a provider who top me with condom but bottom for another provider raw, all during a 3s play. Now that was funny to say the least 🤣

 

Well, at least it seems to me that he's looking out for you.

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

2 hours ago, blck37 said:

Had a provider who top me with condom but bottom for another provider raw, all during a 3s play. Now that was funny to say the least 🤣

He may have been on Prep to stop HIV, but wanted to limit his chances of catching gonorrhea in his penis from the bacteria in a man's ass.  Catching gonorrhea in the ass or throat is often asymptomatic, but it is painful to catch in the penis.

[maninsoma]

1 hour ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

He may have been on Prep to stop HIV, but wanted to limit his chances of catching gonorrhea in his penis from the bacteria in a man's ass.  Catching gonorrhea in the ass or throat is often asymptomatic, but it is painful to catch in the penis.

It's also possible that he's super sensitive when topping so likes to wear a condom so he can last longer (I've know some guys like this).  Another possibility is that he prefers a condom when topping in case the bottom isn't thoroughly cleaned and he'd rather have an "accident" appear on a condom he's wearing than on his penis. 

[LookingAround]

Easiest solution: Apretude shot once every two months. 
As a regular Grindr user and sex club goer I can tell you 99% of gay guys don't use condoms that I encounter. The convo here sounds like convent discussions. 

Edited August 27, 2024 by LookingAround

[+ Jamie21]

5 hours ago, blck37 said:

Had a provider who top me with condom but bottom for another provider raw, all during a 3s play. Now that was funny to say the least 🤣

Possibly he knew and trusted the other provider. Also, sometimes if topping a client who might not be great a douching (perhaps it’s a new client or someone experimenting) there’s some er…mess. He might prefer to have a condom on just in case of that, especially if he’s large. Speaking from experience 😂. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

58 minutes ago, LookingAround said:

Easiest solution: Apertude shot once every two months. 
As a regular Grindr user and sex club goer I can tell you 99% of gay guys don't use condoms that I encounter. The convo here sounds like convent discussions. 

Agreed - I have a chronic condition that keeps me from taking oral prep, but Apertude gets around that.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

3 hours ago, LookingAround said:

Easiest solution: Apertude shot once every two months. 
As a regular Grindr user and sex club goer I can tell you 99% of gay guys don't use condoms that I encounter. The convo here sounds like convent discussions. 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

On 8/25/2024 at 10:27 AM, BenjaminNicholas said:

PrEP works when you take it as directed.  These people don't.  They're idiots.

The pills work well.  Cabenuva even better. 

The active ingredient has been in circulation long enough for us to know that.

Trusting science isn't the issue here.

Edit:  I don't want to give anyone wrong info when it comes to PrEP.

I said Cabenuva above and meant Apretude.  

Sorry about that guys.

[ShortCutie7]

3 hours ago, LookingAround said:

Easiest solution: Apertude shot once every two months. 
As a regular Grindr user and sex club goer I can tell you 99% of gay guys don't use condoms that I encounter. The convo here sounds like convent discussions. 

If being in a convent prevents me from getting an STI, you can call me Sister Mister.

[+ sniper]

11 hours ago, ShortCutie7 said:

That is one of my main reasons for not being on PreP and being a “condom n*zi”- I have the same doctor as my family, and my (very infrequent) sexual activity is nobody’s business.  I’m on one med (for an unrelated condition), and that’s one more med than I’d like to be taking.

Yeah when I was out of commission for a few months.after surgery, I debated "donating" my extra pills to a married friend who doesn't take it because he doesn't want his wife seeing it on the insurance.

[+ sniper]

Weird thing is they don't have sex anymore and she knows he's gay. But I guess their deal is don't talk and don't get caught.

[ShortCutie7]

44 minutes ago, sniper said:

Weird thing is they don't have sex anymore and she knows he's gay. But I guess their deal is don't talk and don't get caught.

That sucks for both of them!  The family I’m referring to in my post is both of my parents (who I take care of)… I’ve never actively pretended to be straight (never dated etc) but don’t need my doctor and parents to know that I like cock.

Edited August 27, 2024 by ShortCutie7
Clarified

[pubic_assistance]

12 hours ago, ShortCutie7 said:

don’t need my doctor and parents to know that I like cock.

You should find a new doctor who knows.

[marylander1940]

PrEP rules!

Let's stop being in denial!

[marylander1940]

On 8/26/2024 at 10:52 PM, sniper said:

Yeah when I was out of commission for a few months.after surgery, I debated "donating" my extra pills to a married friend who doesn't take it because he doesn't want his wife seeing it on the insurance.

Did you do it? 

He could also buy it from all day chemist. Go tell him!

 

 

Edited August 28, 2024 by marylander1940

[+ sniper]

He doesn't actually fuck much and is diligent with condoms so he doesn't feel the need for them. 

[Wolfer]

On 8/26/2024 at 11:48 PM, LookingAround said:

As a regular Grindr user and sex club goer I can tell you 99% of gay guys don't use condoms that I encounter. 

That's been my experience too which is why I find it puzzling that, especially in Europe, so many escorts are condom only. I've seen an escort get run through bareback by a line of random guys at a party once, yet contacting him he'll say condom only. (I assume he was at the party in his free time)

Or now that a number of guys have their Twitter and Onlyfans linked, you'll see them getting barebacked left and right but their ad will say safe only.

[+ Jamie21]

30 minutes ago, Wolfer said:

That's been my experience too which is why I find it puzzling that, especially in Europe, so many escorts are condom only. I've seen an escort get run through bareback by a line of random guys at a party once, yet contacting him he'll say condom only. (I assume he was at the party in his free time)

Or now that a number of guys have their Twitter and Onlyfans linked, you'll see them getting barebacked left and right but their ad will say safe only.

If you’re making porn no one uses condoms in that. 99% of the guys I film with are bb. If you put out a condom film it bombs so it just doesn’t happen. Also you can trust that guys who make content are getting tested regularly (if it’s your work you test regularly because if you catch something you’re out of work for a couple of weeks).

If you’re at a party usually those are bareback only these days although in my experience the parties are where it’s most likely you might catch something (along with sex clubs). Also, if you’re being hired by clients and you’re not confident they test regularly and many guys who hire intermittently don’t seem to test regularly then it’s just simpler to ask them to use a condom and be on the safe side. 

[misterhumphries]

17 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

If you’re making porn no one uses condoms in that. 99% of the guys I film with are bb. If you put out a condom film it bombs so it just doesn’t happen. Also you can trust that guys who make content are getting tested regularly (if it’s your work you test regularly because if you catch something you’re out of work for a couple of weeks).

If you’re at a party usually those are bareback only these days although in my experience the parties are where it’s most likely you might catch something (along with sex clubs). Also, if you’re being hired by clients and you’re not confident they test regularly and many guys who hire intermittently don’t seem to test regularly then it’s just simpler to ask them to use a condom and be on the safe side. 

Too many conditionals! If this,... if that...if the other...

Put on a condom! I've never understood the aversion to them. It takes me five seconds to put on a condom.. then I'm off to the races.

The PREP drugs -- pills or shots -- do not protect against all STDs. This apparent tunnel vision about Prep is part of the reason why drug-resistant syphilis and gonorrhea cases are on the rise. 

[+ Jamie21]

6 hours ago, misterhumphries said:

Too many conditionals! If this,... if that...if the other...

Put on a condom! I've never understood the aversion to them. It takes me five seconds to put on a condom.. then I'm off to the races.

The PREP drugs -- pills or shots -- do not protect against all STDs. This apparent tunnel vision about Prep is part of the reason why drug-resistant syphilis and gonorrhea cases are on the rise. 

I know Prep doesn’t protect me against other sexually transmitted infections (by the way…STI is the term used now). I understand the risks and make a personal decision (as with anything). People should be able to take informed choices about this. I choose not to use condoms when I top (and if the person I’m with doesn’t choose that then we don’t go ahead). It’s always got to be a personal choice. 

Similarly I choose not to smoke for example or to drink alcohol. Those are my choices made on health grounds. I’m always surprised by those who are censorious about people not using condoms but who smoke and drink both of which have serious health consequences for both themselves and others. Why the focus on sexual activity and not on other lifestyle choices? 

[HockeyMan]

Providers only bb for clients who are attractive enough or good in bed.

[+ ApexNomad]

11 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

I know Prep doesn’t protect me against other sexually transmitted infections (by the way…STI is the term used now). I understand the risks and make a personal decision (as with anything). People should be able to take informed choices about this. I choose not to use condoms when I top (and if the person I’m with doesn’t choose that then we don’t go ahead). It’s always got to be a personal choice. 

Similarly I choose not to smoke for example or to drink alcohol. Those are my choices made on health grounds. I’m always surprised by those who are censorious about people not using condoms but who smoke and drink both of which have serious health consequences for both themselves and others. Why the focus on sexual activity and not on other lifestyle choices? 

You choose not to wear condoms when you top.  Am I understanding your next sentence correctly that if your client asks you to wear a condom before topping them, then it doesn’t go ahead? Raw is the law? 

[+ Jamie21]

36 minutes ago, ApexNomad said:

You choose not to wear condoms when you top.  Am I understanding your next sentence correctly that if your client asks you to wear a condom before topping them, then it doesn’t go ahead? Raw is the law? 

Yes that’s correct, it doesn’t go ahead. 

[+ ApexNomad]

28 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

Yes that’s correct, it doesn’t go ahead. 

Got it.

[LookingAround]

No need to be preachy about it. It's a personal decision. This isn't the Temperance Society.