Worst 2025 Experiences

[Venite]

What are your worst experiences in 2025 hiring-wise?

 

[mtaabq]

Hands down and without question, CodyWilson, as he’s currently known on RM, and whose current location is shown as Raleigh (NC). He was using a different screenname when I hired him in May 2025. (As near as I can tell he’s changed it several times.) BIG mistake on my part. In pre-meeting messages he agreed to everything I asked and then delivered nothing in person. Within 1 minute of walking through the door of his hotel room I knew he was a phony. His massage skills are non-existent. After 30 mins of a planned 90 minute meeting I ended things and left. 

[soloyo215]

Last year I went to Oaxaca, Mexico, with the expectation that the place is like the cities in the coast or Mexico city. It turned out to be quite conservative and, though interesting in terms of culture, architecture and things to do, gay life seemed more like an afterthought. The availability of providers in the area was limited and not the best quality, especially in terms of safety. The experiences weren't terrible, but they were the least satisfying of the year. Guys I hired there were not the best providers.

[+ RyanDean]

Set up appointments with promising & well-reviewed gents in Las Vegas, Providence, and Atlanta -- only to get ghosted on the day.
Every. Single. Time.
So tedious.
 

[Mark_fl]

Fortunately didn't really have any in 2025. Had two disappointing experiences in 2023, got more selective and had no hirings in 2024.

In 2025, I have had two escort and one massage experience, and none were negative to the point of listing them here.

[Dru10664629]

https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/28336/

This masseur gave me the worst experience so far. 

He charged me 200 for erotic massage. 

He only massaged me for 20 minutes with no pressure at all, feels like he was just putting some oil or lotion on my body, and he asked me to massage him.

He allowed mutual touch and release me at the end. Still, i feel shortchanged.

Edited Sunday at 07:02 PM by Dru10664629

[+ DrownedBoy]

A certain provider who shall remain anonymous took 2 doses of G during the session, and although I told him I don't do anal with providers, I ended pushing him away with my feet and grabbing the lube bottle from his hand.

He left the room immediately without me telling him, and was sitting, acting sad and apologizing afterwards. I told him he needed to stop using drugs and get help, then sent him away. I did not block him on RentMen, but his ad went down last fall. Hopefully he's taking a break from the G as well.

[NipLuvr212]

18 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

A certain provider who shall remain anonymous took 2 doses of G during the session, and although I told him I don't do anal with providers, I ended pushing him away with my feet and grabbing the lube bottle from his hand.

He left the room immediately without me telling him, and was sitting, acting sad and apologizing afterwards. I told him he needed to stop using drugs and get help, then sent him away. I did not block him on RentMen, but his ad went down last fall. Hopefully he's taking a break from the G as well.

Similar experience -- provider told me that he had been overnight at a nearby sauna and arrived high as a whatever - the best part was when he fell asleep during the session!

As  I posted elsewhere, dealing with someone with a substance use problem never ends well!

[VIdeo]

I was in Montreal and saw a provider online with a few good reviews so I reached out. We were suppose to meet at his place but when I got there he wasn’t there. He kept telling me he was on his way to wait for him. After 30 minutes he finally showed up, he kinda acted a bit odd.  I should’ve trusted my instincts and left but I wasn’t thinking with the right head. We got in the elevator and he whipped out his dick, asked for the money. Stupid me gave it to him and we walked to an apartment he started pounding on the door asking to be let in. He went in first, I heard yelling so I just ran off out of there. Pretty sure he just wanted to run off with the money. I tired to leave a bad review to warn others but rentmen told me since I didn’t message him on there site I can’t leave a negative review 😏. 

[+ PhileasFogg]

I prefer to focus on the 90%+ positive experiences - but I did have four that turned into very bad experiences:

- After a couple of good trips, one from Oklahoma City (KaidenFoxx) lied and ghosted me before a big trip before coming clean weeks later (and then disappearing from the internet)

- After three good trips, one from Chicago went histrionic because he didn't like the fact that I got along better with his boyfriend than him - I'll leave nameless out of respect for his boyfriend.

- One in New Orleans (SkylerDiamond) proved completely unreliable on every dimension - communication, timely, honesty, etc

- One in New Orleans proved very disappointing as we he fell off the detox wagon and reverted to addiction on his way to becoming like SkylerDiamond.

 

Maturity, Intelligence, Sobriety - 2025 taught me what to focus on and it's AMAZING how elevated the experiences are!

 

[NipLuvr212]

15 minutes ago, VIdeo said:

I was in Montreal and saw a provider online with a few good reviews so I reached out. We were suppose to meet at his place but when I got there he wasn’t there. He kept telling me he was on his way to wait for him. After 30 minutes he finally showed up, he kinda acted a bit odd.  I should’ve trusted my instincts and left but I wasn’t thinking with the right head. We got in the elevator and he whipped out his dick, asked for the money. Stupid me gave it to him and we walked to an apartment he started pounding on the door asking to be let in. He went in first, I heard yelling so I just ran off out of there. Pretty sure he just wanted to run off with the money. I tired to leave a bad review to warn others but rentmen told me since I didn’t message him on there site I can’t leave a negative review 😏. 

As a frequent visiter to Montreal, would you be OK disclosing the name of this person - selfishly asking, haha (btw: to those concerned "haha" is a smirk similar to "hehe", showing a certain awareness of how bizarre all of this is....)

[VIdeo]

He went by jaydurci, but I think his doesn’t advertise anymore or created a new account. 

[Luv2play]

2025 was a pretty good year for me regarding providers. Most of my sessions were excellent. They were a mix of ones I had seen previously and a few new ones, maybe 5 or so. 
One was  a regular and we did mostly overnights. He is great and I will continue to see him. One I was ultimately disappointed in but maybe we weren’t a good fit so no recriminations. 

Of the newbies, they were all good but one I wouldn’t repeat. Just not a good fit.

In all I had a great year for a 77/78 yo. 

[savantsav]

I had a couple of worst.

One of them traveling to the USA and we started messaging here, then we started texting and set up time. We kept in touch. Messaged him the day before and he started hyping our meet "we're gonna have a fun time" "it's gonna be hot" etc. The day of in the morning I messaged "Hey did you make it?" aaaaaaand he ghosted me after all the hype. When I reached out again later in the evening past our appointment time wondering what happened.... they replied said they had been sick all day and couldn't text. They were so sick they didn't have their phone all day. Yet when I checked their very public Twitter he had been posting all day. Unprofessional liars.

Another one gave me a rate. Then when I showed up he started doing upselling "Kissing is extra" "bb is extra" "rimming is extra" "sucking you is extra". That was just awful.

[mtaabq]

59 minutes ago, savantsav said:

Another one gave me a rate. Then when I showed up he started doing upselling "Kissing is extra" "bb is extra" "rimming is extra" "sucking you is extra". That was just awful.

That sounds like my very first hire, which was probably 20 years ago. I didn’t know what to do or how to respond. Fortunately that’s only happened once or twice since, and it’s probably happened to a lot of us, and it stinks when it does. 

In 2025 I also had a provider fall asleep almost immediately after he shot his load. I had to laugh and I let him sleep. He woke up a little more than a half-hour later, asked for a soda, and then fell asleep again. After another 30 minute nap he woke up and asked me to drive him home. 

[Simon Suraci]

Flipping the script on this topic. Here’s my worst provider experience with a client in 2025. He likes to use G in his sessions. He is the reason I will no longer tolerate client drug use.

I saw him for two hour sessions about half a dozen times over several months, once with my provider friend Newell (MuscleGingerXL). He was nice enough. Long sad story about how he got clean and used to work for Goodwill inspiring others to get sober. Now he’s a junkie again, spending every last dime on providers and drugs. He always paid, until he started asking me to wait while he “moved money around” before sending it. Never a good sign.

The next session he asked if he could pay later that day. Red flag city. I should have cut the cord. Eventually he paid me days later after a lot of follow up. He may be sketchy but he always follows through. Until he didn’t.

I agreed to one more session, but I was not going to leave until he paid me. This time he had a visitor over in his bathroom showering…for over an hour. While we were in session. I didn’t care that the visitor was in the next room, but then the client asks if he can have his friend join us. He wanted to watch us play. I agreed. It took a while for him to get the guy out of the bathroom. Weird. Red flag.

Then in walks a guy I can best describe as a scraggly 20 something meth head Jesus. The client watched us play as he requested. I was weirded out because I noticed at some point Jesus had open sores on his body, and not of the stigmata variety. WTF. Not cool.

The client suddenly leaves the room and doesn’t come back after a while. Concerned, I go look for him but he is nowhere to be seen in the house. I ask his roommate the client’s whereabouts to no avail. I go back to the client’s room and chat with Jesus for a while. Jesus goes looking for him, can’t find him either. Time is coming to an end and I have something booked after I have to travel for. So I’m not sure what to do. The client went MIA.

Then the client suddenly emerged, teary eyed. Apparently he was hiding in a shed in his back yard, sobbing, really upset by something I apparently did. WTF. I explained that I had to get going and that he needs to pay me. He ran off and hid in the shed again. WTF. So I decided to leave.

The client later goes on a tirade blaming me for all his emotional distress. I try to calm him down and come back the next day while he is not on drugs to talk. We go through everything and he comes to agree with me that it was on him for taking so much G, and that he shouldn’t have brought a vagrant in off the street and involved him in our session. It was disrespectful to the vagrant and to me to use each of us in that way. But he says that I was into the vagrant (I wasn’t, believe me) and that I ignored him (I didn’t, I kept checking in asking if he was enjoying himself), and that I took advantage of him. After all that he reluctantly agrees to pay me, saying he will send it later that day. I leave.

I wasn’t holding my breath. After a lot of long, histrionic, barely intelligible texts from the client in the following days, the client decided not to pay me after all, and turns downright nasty. I finally concluded that I have to block him, cut my losses, and move on. I know where he lives. I could make his life a living hell, but I don’t have time for games or petty bullshit. And that’s not the kind of person I am.

Fast forward to this month. A provider I know in Las Vegas reached out asking if I knew [client] and I warned the provider to not see the client, that he was mentally unstable and on drugs. The provider decided to see him anyway. Apparently the client has alienated everyone in San Diego, so he is asking for sessions with men hundreds of miles away now. My provider friend tells me the client goes around flashing his gun in his trashy circus circus hotel room and is taking more drugs. Seriously unsafe, and unhinged. Eventually the client pays *part* of what he owes the provider, but it was with money he asked to borrow from a friend.

So sad. No more seeing clients who use. It’s unsafe, unreliable, and unnecessary.

You guys may have flaky provider experiences at times, but man, some of us providers really go through the wringer with these sketchy clients. All the more reason so many of us are guarded, jaded, and unwilling to put up with clients displaying any hint of red flag behavior. We have to protect ourselves.

[mtaabq]

@Simon Suraci

Damn. I mean, damn. That situation is really bleeping sad. Tragic, almost. I’m so sorry that happened to you and I’m happy that you emerged unscathed. I don’t mean to be either flip or fresh but your situation makes my “bad hire” feel like nothing more than a rainy afternoon at Disneyland in comparison. 

(Not to veer off-topic but in the interest of full disclosure, I have engaged Simon twice and he provided an outstanding experience both times.) 

Edited yesterday at 03:21 AM by mtaabq
Edited to provide context.

[savantsav]

Yikes @Simon Suraci that sucks. Fortunately this year while I did have some providers show up on substances none of them were too terrible other than not being able to perform. Glad to hear you're OK

[DMonDude]

Pretty sure i told this story on the guys review thread in this site i think, but i met up with a provider in 2025 who only spoke Spanish. I only speak English. This was not a problem, at first.

I was curious about a dick as big as his as i had never went that big before (10 inch and very thick). We spoke via text where he was using a translator app on his phone. It was here i said i never had a dick as big as his and that he needed to go slow at first and he said ok. Then in person we also spoke via passing his phone back and forth using the translator app. Once we were getting physical and got naked, and phones left in our pants pockets, i realized too late i had no way to communicate with him without our phones actively in our hands.

He started slow on insertion like i asked. After putting it in and waiting till he felt me relax, I handled the thickness better than either of us thought, so he thought he was good to start thrusting. I however, was not fully prepared for the length. So when he went too deep too soon, he hit the wall and i didn't anticipate how that'd feel (it hurt). He didn't realize he was hurting me and i didn't know how to tell him to slow down/stop. He was a much larger guy and was on top of me, so i wasn't fully in positional control to take it out/stop. Eventually i think the sounds i was making tipped him off and he stopped. We ended the session there. We cleaned up, he gave me a goodbye hug, spank, and a kiss, and i left.

He didn't know he was hurting me at first and he wasn't doing so on purpose and he stopped when he did realize. So i don't hold it against him nor feel like anything happened to me against my will in a way he was aware of or anything of that nature. It just was pure language barrier/miscommunication and learning the hard way that i was not ready for that size yet lol. I was sore for a couple hours but was fine after i woke up the next day.

Lesson learned, no hard feelings. If you're going to be inexperienced and hook up with a big dicked guy who doesn't speak your language, make sure you memorize a couple important phrases that make sense for that situation in his language. Keep the phone with translator app open next to you in the bed or just make sure you know you can handle that size so you don't need to say slow down/stop to begin with lol.

I'd honestly see him again once i knew i could handle that size or if came prepared with a little Spanish memorized. He's hot as hell and it felt great, till he hit that wall lol.

Edited yesterday at 07:42 AM by DMonDude

[+ SirBillybob]

I watched two hot studs flip fcuk and only had time and choreographic creativity for one in the threelipede to blow me while railed. 

[+ Pensant]

I had a semi-dud in Vancouver one year ago, but he was pleasant. The next night was with a hot blond twink, so the trip was a success. Otherwise, the few newbies I engaged were great, although a few have already “retired”. Sessions with long-time regulars continued to evolve into more role play and fantasy which has been enormously erotic and satisfying. Looking forward to 2026.

[Obsidian]

11 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

Flipping the script on this topic. Here’s my worst provider experience with a client in 2025. He likes to use G in his sessions. He is the reason I will no longer tolerate client drug use.

I saw him for two hour sessions about half a dozen times over several months, once with my provider friend Newell (MuscleGingerXL). He was nice enough. Long sad story about how he got clean and used to work for Goodwill inspiring others to get sober. Now he’s a junkie again, spending every last dime on providers and drugs. He always paid, until he started asking me to wait while he “moved money around” before sending it. Never a good sign.

The next session he asked if he could pay later that day. Red flag city. I should have cut the cord. Eventually he paid me days later after a lot of follow up. He may be sketchy but he always follows through. Until he didn’t.

I agreed to one more session, but I was not going to leave until he paid me. This time he had a visitor over in his bathroom showering…for over an hour. While we were in session. I didn’t care that the visitor was in the next room, but then the client asks if he can have his friend join us. He wanted to watch us play. I agreed. It took a while for him to get the guy out of the bathroom. Weird. Red flag.

Then in walks a guy I can best describe as a scraggly 20 something meth head Jesus. The client watched us play as he requested. I was weirded out because I noticed at some point Jesus had open sores on his body, and not of the stigmata variety. WTF. Not cool.

The client suddenly leaves the room and doesn’t come back after a while. Concerned, I go look for him but he is nowhere to be seen in the house. I ask his roommate the client’s whereabouts to no avail. I go back to the client’s room and chat with Jesus for a while. Jesus goes looking for him, can’t find him either. Time is coming to an end and I have something booked after I have to travel for. So I’m not sure what to do. The client went MIA.

Then the client suddenly emerged, teary eyed. Apparently he was hiding in a shed in his back yard, sobbing, really upset by something I apparently did. WTF. I explained that I had to get going and that he needs to pay me. He ran off and hid in the shed again. WTF. So I decided to leave.

The client later goes on a tirade blaming me for all his emotional distress. I try to calm him down and come back the next day while he is not on drugs to talk. We go through everything and he comes to agree with me that it was on him for taking so much G, and that he shouldn’t have brought a vagrant in off the street and involved him in our session. It was disrespectful to the vagrant and to me to use each of us in that way. But he says that I was into the vagrant (I wasn’t, believe me) and that I ignored him (I didn’t, I kept checking in asking if he was enjoying himself), and that I took advantage of him. After all that he reluctantly agrees to pay me, saying he will send it later that day. I leave.

I wasn’t holding my breath. After a lot of long, histrionic, barely intelligible texts from the client in the following days, the client decided not to pay me after all, and turns downright nasty. I finally concluded that I have to block him, cut my losses, and move on. I know where he lives. I could make his life a living hell, but I don’t have time for games or petty bullshit. And that’s not the kind of person I am.

Fast forward to this month. A provider I know in Las Vegas reached out asking if I knew [client] and I warned the provider to not see the client, that he was mentally unstable and on drugs. The provider decided to see him anyway. Apparently the client has alienated everyone in San Diego, so he is asking for sessions with men hundreds of miles away now. My provider friend tells me the client goes around flashing his gun in his trashy circus circus hotel room and is taking more drugs. Seriously unsafe, and unhinged. Eventually the client pays *part* of what he owes the provider, but it was with money he asked to borrow from a friend.

So sad. No more seeing clients who use. It’s unsafe, unreliable, and unnecessary.

You guys may have flaky provider experiences at times, but man, some of us providers really go through the wringer with these sketchy clients. All the more reason so many of us are guarded, jaded, and unwilling to put up with clients displaying any hint of red flag behavior. We have to protect ourselves.

I appreciate you painting the picture of "the other side". Decency and respect are obligations of BOTH parties, however we mostly only hear about one. 

[big-n-tall]

Honestly, (knock on wood) I haven't had a bad experience with a provider/masseur in many years. I mainly stick to regulars with an occasional new hire here and there. Maybe I just have gotten really good at determining who I might click with but all the new guys have been outstanding.

I guess the closest things to a bad experience is having a few new potential hires cancel on me abruptly. The only other thing I can think of is a masseur/escort I hired previously, forgot that our next meeting was going to be full service. So we just did an erotic massage instead. He was very apologetic about not being prepared. I haven't hired since, but that's more about not really having the time to see him when I visit his area.

[CuriousByNature]

11 hours ago, DMonDude said:

Pretty sure i told this story on the guys review thread in this site i think, but i met up with a provider in 2025 who only spoke Spanish. I only speak English. This was not a problem, at first.

I was curious about a dick as big as his as i had never went that big before (10 inch and very thick). We spoke via text where he was using a translator app on his phone. It was here i said i never had a dick as big as his and that he needed to go slow at first and he said ok. Then in person we also spoke via passing his phone back and forth using the translator app. Once we were getting physical and got naked, and phones left in our pants pockets, i realized too late i had no way to communicate with him without our phones actively in our hands.

He started slow on insertion like i asked. After putting it in and waiting till he felt me relax, I handled the thickness better than either of us thought, so he thought he was good to start thrusting. I however, was not fully prepared for the length. So when he went too deep too soon, he hit the wall and i didn't anticipate how that'd feel (it hurt). He didn't realize he was hurting me and i didn't know how to tell him to slow down/stop. He was a much larger guy and was on top of me, so i wasn't fully in positional control to take it out/stop. Eventually i think the sounds i was making tipped him off and he stopped. We ended the session there. We cleaned up, he gave me a goodbye hug, spank, and a kiss, and i left.

He didn't know he was hurting me at first and he wasn't doing so on purpose and he stopped when he did realize. So i don't hold it against him nor feel like anything happened to me against my will in a way he was aware of or anything of that nature. It just was pure language barrier/miscommunication and learning the hard way that i was not ready for that size yet lol. I was sore for a couple hours but was fine after i woke up the next day.

Lesson learned, no hard feelings. If you're going to be inexperienced and hook up with a big dicked guy who doesn't speak your language, make sure you memorize a couple important phrases that make sense for that situation in his language. Keep the phone with translator app open next to you in the bed or just make sure you know you can handle that size so you don't need to say slow down/stop to begin with lol.

I'd honestly see him again once i knew i could handle that size or if came prepared with a little Spanish memorized. He's hot as hell and it felt great, till he hit that wall lol.

Would you mind sharing who this person is?  

[DMonDude]

1 hour ago, CuriousByNature said:

Would you mind sharing who this person is?  

Yeah sure haha. He's Houston, Texas based i believe, but travels all around. I saw him in L.A., but as of this comment he's in Seattle. https://rent.men/Eleizertop