DWnyc Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 On 3/27/2024 at 2:28 PM, KensingtonHomo said: I'm sure they do see themselves as a luxury good. If they are traveling as a companion, they are also receiving a ton of free luxury goods and experiences. But I doubt many of the guys who live in Bushwick and do sex work to supplement their income as a dancer, artist, etc. see themselves that way. We often run into guys we hire at venues here in the city, and they're not living luxury lives. I’ve heard a recurring narrative from providers of how they once had a bumper year, thought it was going to last forever, and blew through everything and their luck changed (eg their benefactor left town or found someone else). + KensingtonHomo and + DrownedBoy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) On 3/30/2024 at 7:41 PM, Charlie said: Wow! I guess the days when I could get an in-call at a call-boy agency in Manhattan for $60 are gone for good. Did you adjust that for 50 years of inflation 😄 EDIT: Awww @Charlie just yanking your chain. Edited April 2 by DrownedBoy Luv2play, + Charlie and marylander1940 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 3/30/2024 at 7:41 PM, Charlie said: Wow! I guess the days when I could get an in-call at a call-boy agency in Manhattan for $60 are gone for good. When you look outside your window, do you still see Al Jolson dancing the charleston atop a flagpole? + DrownedBoy, Luv2play, MikeBiDude and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 13 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said: When you look outside your window, do you still see Al Jolson dancing the charleston atop a flagpole? Well the best providers will go to considerable lengths to ensure the client had the experience he craves … + BenjaminNicholas, + DrownedBoy, Your Man in Arlington and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 8 hours ago, DWnyc said: Well the best providers will go to considerable lengths to ensure the client had the experience he craves … marylander1940 and DWnyc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 On 3/30/2024 at 8:41 PM, Charlie said: Wow! I guess the days when I could get an in-call at a call-boy agency in Manhattan for $60 are gone for good. On 4/1/2024 at 8:03 PM, DrownedBoy said: Did you adjust that for 50 years of inflation 😄 EDIT: Awww @Charlie just yanking your chain. Inflation Rate between 1974-2024 | Inflation Calculator WWW.IN2013DOLLARS.COM $60 in 1974 is now equivalent to $377.68 in 2024. peter831, + Charlie, Luv2play and 2 others 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socurious Posted April 10 Author Share Posted April 10 (edited) On 3/30/2024 at 5:07 PM, topunderachiever said: How much are you charging? I believe you're a provider now, correct? 350 in the city since I'm a newbie with only one review in my profile. I don't consider that expensive. I've done 300 a few times but regretted it. I did 200 for 30 minutes one time but no anal involved. I only do travels. I'm not into into cheap customers honestly. If someone thinks 350-400 for a escort in New York City is a lot then hiring is not their thing. I hate when certain clients like to act entitled as if they have the right to tell others what's their value is. Unless the escort is scamming people no one has that right. If you think someone is expensive just move on and hire someone else. It's their bodies and minds at the end of the day. Edited April 10 by socurious pubic_assistance, + Charlie and + Vegas_Millennial 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 10 minutes ago, socurious said: 350 in the city since I'm a newbie with only one review in my profile. Thanks! For two hours, do you hold steady at $700, or do you offer a break? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socurious Posted April 10 Author Share Posted April 10 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said: Thanks! For two hours, do you hold steady at $700, or do you offer a break? I've done 500 a couple of times for 2 hours. But that’s outside NYC. In New York City nobody has hired for so long except for one guy (I charged him 550 for 2 hours). We didn't do anal. He was very nice and paid for my ubers. Do you think 500 is too little in NYC? My friend charges 700. I thought the point was to encourage people to hire you for longer. Edited April 10 by socurious + DrownedBoy and + Vegas_Millennial 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 27 minutes ago, socurious said: Do you think 500 is too little in NYC? My friend charges 700. I thought the point was to encourage people to hire you for longer. I agree that I seek a lower cost per hour when I hire for multiple hours. I'm not in the business, but I often thought that it would make sense to adjust your rates depending on how booked you are. If most days you are looking for more clients, then you may consider lowering your prices. If most days you are booked full (whatever "full" means to you) then you may consider raising your prices. "Full" can be whatever you want: from one session each evening after your day job, or three sessions each day. pubic_assistance and socurious 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronArtz Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 I live and hire in NYC. My sweet spot is 90 minutes for an erotic massage/interactive playtime combo. For that reason, I prefer working with guys who have both a masseur and an escort ad. For that, I am quoted rates between 240 and 300. I do tip well for good performance. After tip, a 90 minute session ends up being $300 - $400, which I find very reasonable. The guys seem happy with that and I have no problems getting repeat appointments. NJF, pubic_assistance, thomas and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socurious Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, BaronArtz said: I live and hire in NYC. My sweet spot is 90 minutes for an erotic massage/interactive playtime combo. For that reason, I prefer working with guys who have both a masseur and an escort ad. For that, I am quoted rates between 240 and 300. I do tip well for good performance. After tip, a 90 minute session ends up being $300 - $400, which I find very reasonable. The guys seem happy with that and I have no problems getting repeat appointments. That seems quite fair to me. pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 On 4/10/2024 at 6:17 PM, socurious said: Do you think 500 is too little in NYC? My friend charges 700. Depends who you are and what you’re offering I have rarely proactively sought more than 1 hr (unless things going really well and I don’t feel tricked into extendibg) - and I’m noticing more providers throwing in an incentive to book in the first place by offering discounted rates for the 2nd hour - and if been quoted as low as 350 or so. By those well reviewed on RM and here. Of course they might not have started with that if I started my inquiries at 2 hours. now I fully recognize there are those that charge 500+ for just one hour, but they wouldn’t be on my shortlist + DrownedBoy, pubic_assistance and + Vegas_Millennial 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Man in Arlington Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Was just quoted $300/hr or $550 for 2, lowest NYC rate I've seen in about a year. marylander1940 and + Vegas_Millennial 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 7 hours ago, Your Man in Arlington said: Was just quoted $300/hr or $550 for 2, lowest NYC rate I've seen in about a year. Similarly, I'm finding better and better hotel rates in Manhattan this year as well. I like to visit late May or early June. In 2018 the best I could find was a crammed 150sq ft Queen Room for $350/night in Hell's Kitchen. In 2022 I paid $400/night for a better rooms in Tribeca and Midtown. This year, I booked a 300sq ft King Room in Chelsea for under $250/night. I'll be in NYC for 13 nights. I already have 2 well-reviewed escorts lined up. One advertises $300/hr, and the other told me $250/hr and he's "not a clockwatcher". If I can find more at that rate, I'll be hiring every other night! Edited April 19 by Vegas_Millennial thomas, Your Man in Arlington, mike carey and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 4/10/2024 at 5:59 PM, socurious said: hate when certain clients like to act entitled as if they have the right to tell others what's their value is. Unless the escort is scamming people no one has that right. If you think someone is expensive just move on and hire someone else. It's their bodies and minds at the end of the day. Works both ways of course. Ultimately most clients won’t engage someone they think isn’t worth it and often that isn’t only about the dollars. + APPLE1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BOZO T CLOWN Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 What's the standard price in New York for 2 hours right now? That's like asking what's the standard price in New York for a new car right now. It all depends on the model. You don't pay the same price for a new BMW as you would for an '86 beaten up Chevy. Correct? What does the model look like? Young or old? Well-built/Muscular or skinny/flabby? Handsome or unattractive/average? Tattooed or ink-free? Also, how interactive is the guy? Then we all have our personal preferences/dislikes for which we would be willing to pay more fore or pay less, i.e. hairy/smooth, cut/uncut, tall/short, Black/White/Latin, etc. There are some guys Bozo sees on Rentmen that he wouldn't pay $20 bucks to be with, and others for whom Bozo would empty out his bank account to be with. BTC pubic_assistance, DWnyc, + Vegas_Millennial and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 One thing folks don’t think about so much (I assume) is how flexible are the rates in different cities. I know the cultural bias in this forum is “no negotiating! So unclassy!” But that’s not how the world works. So another aspect is how flexible are prices from the initial quote. I find NYC can seem higher than other cities at the start of a conversation but can become equalized or even lower given the huge range of options here. “Take it or leave it” and “I know my value” type positions are fine in theory and in sales training classes but don’t often work in practice. “Value” is what the market allows both sides to settle on after they take some time to see what is really out there. + APPLE1, + BOZO T CLOWN and + Charlie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Suraci Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 On 4/20/2024 at 11:25 AM, DWnyc said: I know the cultural bias in this forum is “no negotiating! So unclassy!” But that’s not how the world works. ^This is your opinion. It doesn’t apply to all providers. Maybe some, sure. Many of us take the no negotiating stance and stick to it. It costs me business to operate this way, but then again, I want clients who value me as much as I do. That’s a net positive in my book. Good for you when you find mutually beneficial arrangements through negotiation, but I wouldn’t characterize this approach as the way the world of hiring works. It’s mixed. + Charlie, mike carey and + BOZO T CLOWN 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 On 4/19/2024 at 4:20 PM, Vegas_Millennial said: Similarly, I'm finding better and better hotel rates in Manhattan this year as well. I like to visit late May or early June. In 2018 the best I could find was a crammed 150sq ft Queen Room for $350/night in Hell's Kitchen. In 2022 I paid $400/night for a better rooms in Tribeca and Midtown. This year, I booked a 300sq ft King Room in Chelsea for under $250/night. I'll be in NYC for 13 nights. I already have 2 well-reviewed escorts lined up. One advertises $300/hr, and the other told me $250/hr and he's "not a clockwatcher". If I can find more at that rate, I'll be hiring every other night! Congratulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 On 3/27/2024 at 12:42 AM, socurious said: In New York City? Ummm That used to be the standard before the pandemic. It's been almost five years since 2019. Plus don't forget the inflation. I think 300 for an hour should be the standard for cities like Dallas, Atlanta, Houston, Tampa, etc. What about 2 hours? Inflation Rate between 2019-2024 | Inflation Calculator WWW.IN2013DOLLARS.COM $300 in 2019 is now equivalent to $366.50 in 2024. socurious, + Charlie and pubic_assistance 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Inflation Rate between 2019-2024 | Inflation Calculator WWW.IN2013DOLLARS.COM $300 in 2019 is now equivalent to $366.50 in 2024. So today's $300 is the same as $ 246 in 2019 ($4 less than the old standard rate of $250). $200 to $250 was a normal ask for particularly good looking providers, pre-pandemic. liubit, + Vegas_Millennial and marylander1940 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 On 4/22/2024 at 5:06 AM, Simon Suraci said: ^This is your opinion. It doesn’t apply to all providers. Maybe some, sure. Many of us take the no negotiating stance and stick to it. It costs me business to operate this way, but then again, I want clients who value me as much as I do. That’s a net positive in my book. Good for you when you find mutually beneficial arrangements through negotiation, but I wouldn’t characterize this approach as the way the world of hiring works. It’s mixed. I actually don’t negotiate with providers -. at most I’ve accepted revised terms after their persistent efforts while doing nothing myself. And that’s not just my opinion, it’s my experience in multiple instances with providers well regarded on here and elsewhere, and the experience of many I know personally. And to be clear: my non negotiation position is not because I put providers on some pedestal. I don’t respect or disrespect a provider arguing they know their value and won’t budge from that - it’s irrelevant as what I care about is if the terms work for me. I’d rather move on to someone else if the terms don’t work for me as initially stated, and I wouldn’t want to be literally exposed with someone resentful at the circumstances of being there even if they accept them voluntarily. When I say that’s not how the world works (negotiation does in fact occur) I’m not saying it’s the case for 100% of providers or interactions. So you can have your position on this, and the world can still work a different way for a significant number of people / experiences. What I’m saying is it’s not 0% (no negotiations) and occurs frequently enough to be considered normal. + APPLE1 and socurious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medin Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 On 3/27/2024 at 1:00 PM, topunderachiever said: Interesting that we pay $600-$700 for a couple hours of attention. It's a very expensive orgasm. Agreed....and I do consider that a luxury. Not too many other services we purchase that cost $300+/hour. Luv2play 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortCutie7 Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, DWnyc said: I wouldn’t want to be literally exposed with someone resentful at the circumstances of being there even if they accept them voluntarily. Exactly, that’s why I wouldn’t attempt to negotiate on my end…. it cheapens the experience and is not worth the risk of marring the time eventually spent together. Your Man in Arlington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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