Outrageous donations for the company of providers

[maninsoma]

10 hours ago, harlow said:

He’s definitely one of the original Helix models from back in the day and he’s definitely not 26. More like early 30s which there’s honestly nothing wrong with that. He was wrapped up in all the Helix drama too

According to IAFD he's in his early thirties and began his porn career in 2011 (I scrolled through his list quickly but didn't notice anything prior to that year).

[Archangel]

On 5/18/2025 at 3:07 PM, BenjaminNicholas said:

Some people here microagressively post because they themselves don't have the bankroll for the company they'd like.

 

I find that assumption judgmental. Some of us have limits. It’s nothing to do with “bankrolling” anything. Some things, some experiences…simply aren’t worth it. That’s my take on it. I say the same thing about luxury alcohol, designer clothing, premium cabins on cruises. About the only thing I would be willing to pay more than it’s really worth is food…and even then it’s a stretch. I just can’t see paying for something overpriced simply because I can. I’m not going to stand in my backyard and light $100 bills on fire. Paying more for something than it’s worth is effectively doing that. I would call that sort of behavior out in anyone…

Also…what exactly is a microagressive post vs. an aggressive post vs. a macroaggressive post? I’ve heard of microagressions, but I can’t figure out what a “microaggressive post” is. 

[SirBillybob]

Whatever the level, an aggressive post example could be attributing bitter envy to a category of folks that object to the price tag of a commodity on grounds of affordability rather than subjective value appraisal. Tit for tat. Micro to start, macro signaling time for pizza. Or it could be micro is one ‘g’ and macro is two. 

Edited July 15 by SirBillybob

[+ Jamie21]

Just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder so the judge of value is the person paying. I don’t make any comment on someone’s definition of beauty nor do I pass opinion on someone’s choice when it comes to deciding what they value. It’s their decision. Sharing opinions on these things is otiose: it may be of amusement but isn’t helpful to anyone. 

[Archangel]

39 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

Sharing opinions on these things is otiose: it may be of amusement but isn’t helpful to anyone. 

Opinion-sharing on any number of issues is what this forum is about. The entire deli section is about opinions – some very much about “beauty.” Others about value. If sharing opinions isn’t valuable or desirable here, what exactly is the point of Company of Men? 

[+ DrownedBoy]

Some of us are just as happy with a decent hamburger as with a steak, even if we can afford it.

Edited July 15 by DrownedBoy

[Archangel]

26 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

Some of us are just as happy with a decent hamburger as with a steak, even if we can afford it.

Everything I’ve ever seen of wagyu, I don’t think I’d like it! 

[Archangel]

18 hours ago, Archangel said:

Everything I’ve ever seen of wagyu, I don’t think I’d like it! 

Reminds me once…

Took my parents to a nice restaurant specializing in Bison when they were visiting some years ago. My father doesn’t do different well. It’s partly a function of his age, but more just his personality. At any rate, I told him “Get anything you want but I would like if you got a bison steak.” What did he get? A beef hamburger and fries…He lives for hamburgers and hotdogs. To him, they’re worth looking forward to and salivating over. 

[+ nycman]

18 hours ago, Archangel said:

Everything I’ve ever seen of wagyu, I don’t think I’d like it! 

Thankfully, I have a severe dislike of Wagyu steak. 

I love steaks, but Wagyu is just mealy and weird to me. 

[Archangel]

45 minutes ago, nycman said:

Thankfully, I have a severe dislike of Wagyu steak. 

I love steaks, but Wagyu is just mealy and weird to me. 

And so it is. Good for you.

My favorite steak is chuck steak. Pretty damn cheap—but the best thing out there! 

[+ Jamie21]

22 hours ago, Archangel said:

Opinion-sharing on any number of issues is what this forum is about. The entire deli section is about opinions – some very much about “beauty.” Others about value. If sharing opinions isn’t valuable or desirable here, what exactly is the point of Company of Men? 

Amusement. Nothing wrong with that. Sometimes though opinions are expressed as facts, with no understanding or acceptance that opinions are personal. 

[Archangel]

30 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

Amusement. 

That’s your opinion 😜 

[+ Jamie21]

1 hour ago, Archangel said:

That’s your opinion 😜 

Very amusing 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

On 7/15/2025 at 2:47 PM, Archangel said:

Some of us have limits. It’s nothing to do with “bankrolling” anything. Some things, some experiences…simply aren’t worth it. That’s my take on it. I say the same thing about luxury alcohol, designer clothing, premium cabins on cruises.

I agree with you that some people assume personal limits on luxuries or recreational spending equal an inability to afford them. I've hired guys who were close to $1,000 and haven't felt the experience justified paying more than double the NYC rate (which is already high). I also don't watch a lot of porn and find OnlyFans to be a complete waste of money. So there are maybe two or three guys who do porn that I might pay a premium for. I met with one last fall, a very well-known performer, and he charged me $350 for an hour, which was closer to 90 minutes. I had a fantastic time. What I notice is that a lot of guys are willing to pay a lot of money to be with a porn or OF star. And that doesn't interest me. 

Now, I would pay more for a premium cabin or a more comfortable seat on a flight. I also haven't seen most of the big music tours lately because though I love Beyonce, I'm not paying $600 for a mediocre seat. 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

On 7/15/2025 at 1:30 PM, Archangel said:

If sharing opinions isn’t valuable or desirable here, what exactly is the point of Company of Men? 

From Company of Men (emphasis added): 

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About Company of Men

OUR GOAL

The primary goal of this site is to provide information to the gay male massage community including providers and clients.  Information found on this site is designed to ensure that those who are involved in these activities can have the best massage experiences possible, avoid violence, remain healthy, find community services, and have access to a supportive community.

There's a difference between sharing information and sharing opinion.  Information is a provider's price range, is a thief or not, is reliable or not, looks his posted age or not, matches the height/weight/size represented in his advertisement or not, accommodates requests or not, wears a condom when asked, requires a deposit, etc.

I believe @Jamie21 stated it perfectly: 

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... Sometimes though opinions are expressed as facts, with no understanding or acceptance that opinions are personal. 

 

Edited July 16 by Vegas_Millennial

[rvwnsd]

Moderator's Note: Please get back to the topic of providers charging exorbitant rates. If there's nothing more to say about that topic, then let's walk away silently.

PS: We are close to calling Lou Malnati's. Only those who remained on-topic will get any, though. 

PPS: For our newer members, back in the day when Guy Fawkes/Daddy (may he rest in peace) ran the site, "time to order pizza" was code for "we are counting down the seconds before we close the thread." Sometimes, Guy/Daddy would say it, other times members would suggest it. 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

I prefer not to use the phrases "I can't afford that" or "It's not worth that", and instead use the phrase "That's not my priority".  I will prioritize spending thousands of dollars for Business or First Class when I travel, but will not pay that much for an overnight escort, even if both the escort and the flight  last a similar length of time.

Some prioritize a model with zero fat.  Others prioritize a big dick.  Yet others prioritize kissing.  There are so many comments from men who will not hire a guy who doesn't kiss, but that's not a priority for me.  I'll pay a premium for other aspects of the man which are my priority.

Edited July 17 by Vegas_Millennial
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[Chien Andalou]

On 5/18/2025 at 4:52 PM, Jamie21 said:

It is supply and demand but be aware this is an industry where the seller has more power. The clients that won’t pay more than 300 don’t get the provider. There’s low barrier to entry into this business and low to zero fixed costs. Providers can decide their rate because if no one buys at their minimum rate they’re prepared to work for then they simply leave the market and do something else. If the market rate is say $300 and the minimum I want is $400 then I will turn away the $300 guys, I don’t drop my rate to $300. If I get no buyers well then I’m not in the business am I? If the market rate rises to $400 perhaps because there’s higher demand or lower supply then I’ll enter the market and get $400. 

I suspect there’s a lot of frustration from those who can’t afford to hire the guys they want. It seems to come out by blaming providers for being greedy. 
 

 

Yes and no. It’s not that I’m unwilling to pay $300 or more for a fuck. I’m just unwilling to pay that much to fuck someone so very average. I look at what’s on offer and how much they’re asking, and I’m floored. Sometimes I want to tell them to look in the mirror and answer the question again. But I don’t. I simply thank them and move on. 

[+ Jamie21]

10 hours ago, Chien Andalou said:

Yes and no. It’s not that I’m unwilling to pay $300 or more for a fuck. I’m just unwilling to pay that much to fuck someone so very average. I look at what’s on offer and how much they’re asking, and I’m floored. Sometimes I want to tell them to look in the mirror and answer the question again. But I don’t. I simply thank them and move on. 

Yet there’s other clients who will not define that provider as ‘average’ (because it’s all subjective) and will complain at having to pay $300 to hire him. Too bad, they can’t afford it. Like you, they move on but they are irritated by the provider’s rate unlike you who are simply bemused by it. Everyone’s perception of value is different. 

[pubic_assistance]

2 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

. Everyone’s perception of value is different. 

Clearly. if we are talking about $300 as an "outrageous" fee for someone's time. My lawyer charges $500/hr. My Plumber charges $300/hr. Neither one of them ever brought me to orgasm.....😉

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

4 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Clearly. if we are talking about $300 as an "outrageous" fee for someone's time. My lawyer charges $500/hr. My Plumber charges $300/hr. Neither one of them ever brought me to orgasm.....😉

I think we need an additional section besides the Deli and Spa.  We need a section to recommend lawyers and plumbers who provide this service to customers.  Why waste a good Plumber's Crack?

[+ Jamie21]

14 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Clearly. if we are talking about $300 as an "outrageous" fee for someone's time. My lawyer charges $500/hr. My Plumber charges $300/hr. Neither one of them ever brought me to orgasm.....😉

My lawyer fucked me, but don’t they all? 

[+ José Soplanucas]

Perhaps US escorts should follow Sister Hong's lead and accept groceries as payment.

However, I am sure they would become abusive anyways and dare to demand two dozens of eggs. 

[marylander1940]

As said by others already... an escort can ask whatever he wants for his time, is up to us to accept it or move on to someone who has a lower rate.

 

[pubic_assistance]

4 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

As said by others already... an escort can ask whatever he wants for his time, is up to us to accept it or move on to someone who has a lower rate.

 

Exactly.

The hair salon on my street charges $600 for cut and color. Don't like that? / Don't go there. Can you get that done for half ? Probably. Will it be as good ? Probably not. We cant all afford the best. But some can. That hair salon is busy every day.