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I know it’s 2026, but I still try to avoid electronic / traceable payment methods at all costs, especially when it comes to this hobby.  I always put the Benjamins in a sealed envelope and hand it to the providers at the end before I leave.

However, I notice that over 95% of the time, they signal me to just leave the envelope on the coffee table / nightstand / bed / sofa / massage table, evidently and intentionally dodging physical contact with the envelope even when I ask them to open it to make sure the amount is correct.  All of them, without fail, decline and say something along the lines of “it’s OK, I trust you.”  I am quite puzzled by this.  So for those who prefer cash transactions:

·       Do you have similar experiences?

·       Are they afraid I’m some kind of undercover operations and they will be caught red-handed if they accept and open the envelope with their hands?

·       Do they really trust that I am putting the right amount inside?  It could be a stack of monopoly money, you know.

·       Do you have any other ways to make cash payments (e.g. just the bills without the envelope)?

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I've been enjoying this hobby for twenty years and I've never paid in any way other than by handing over a stack of bills (no envelope).  The money has only ever been refused by Asian (not Asian-American) escorts.  Some of them will accept the cash if I offer it with two hands (which I do regularly now in that situation) while others ask me to put it on the nightstand or a table rather than receive it directly.  I am also puzzled by the OP's experience.

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I prefer not to count the cash when the client is present. I also prefer that they don’t hand it to me, not because I’m worried about some kind of law enforcement ‘trap’ (because it’s not illegal here to be paid for sex) but because it just feels a bit ‘off’ to take the cash by hand. I try to play down the transactional aspect of the experience. It’s much better for me if they just leave the cash somewhere visible for me. I’ll count it after they leave. It’s only been short once (by quite a lot!) so I messaged the client and he came back and was very apologetic because he had miscounted. 
Somehow if they pay by card it doesn’t have the same ‘off’ feeling about the transaction. I don’t know why!! 

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Sadly, there appears to be no legal difference in NYC. It mostly comes down to what a provider prefers. My former partner accepted a lot of cash payments for his hair services, and many thought he was very expensive. He did not enjoy dealing with the money exchange. He did not want to endure that action between himself and his customer. Even when he worked out of our home, he hired someone to handle the customers.

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I usually bring the cash in an envelope, pull it out at the end and hand it to them.  I have never had anyone not take it.  Sometimes I ask them to count it and tell them that I want them to because I could have made a mistake.  This is a little awkward but less awkward than them discovering afterwards that it is short and wondering if I did it on purpose.  It also preempts any later claim that it was short even though it wasn't.  Since I pay afterwards, they aren't going to worry about an undercover sting.

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I used to hand cash to the provider/masseur but that started to feel weird so I started putting it on a table.  Since most guys don’t leave the room when I get dressed, they see me put it there so it’s clear what it’s for.  No one has ever counted it in front of me but many will text a thank you after I leave.  

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The very 1st provider I hired (20+ years ago) instructed me to have cash where it can be easily seen upon entering my hotel room. I was also instructed not to refer to it and neither would he. Upon entering I noticed he glanced at the bills, presumably to ascertain I had the correct amount. After we finished he simply collected his fee and walked out the door. This method has served me well. Only once do I recall a provider who stopped to count before exiting. One provider had to ask for his fee as he had set his duffel bag on top of it. (I clearly remember him; he was the most handsome man I ever hired.) On those rare occasions when I see providers incall I always have the bills ready in my pocket and set them out in plain sight in front of the provider after entering the room. This method is normally greeted with a “thank you”. 

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3 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

I prefer not to count the cash when the client is present. I also prefer that they don’t hand it to me, not because I’m worried about some kind of law enforcement ‘trap’ (because it’s not illegal here to be paid for sex) but because it just feels a bit ‘off’ to take the cash by hand. I try to play down the transactional aspect of the experience. It’s much better for me if they just leave the cash somewhere visible for me. I’ll count it after they leave. It’s only been short once (by quite a lot!) so I messaged the client and he came back and was very apologetic because he had miscounted. 
Somehow if they pay by card it doesn’t have the same ‘off’ feeling about the transaction. I don’t know why!! 

This is the vibe that I get when the provider asks me to leave the cash on the table. I've never seen anything wrong with it. Not something I pay much attention to.

Posted

I used to place the envelope on a table and subtly point it out to them.

Several providers actually didn't notice it and I had to point it out to them when they asked for an app payment.

So I switched to Zelle. Besides, withdrawing cash draws more scrutiny and attention lately.

Posted

I agree with @Jamie21 and @SecretProvider, I think the intent is to minimize the transactional nature and just focus on the quality of the experience overall. I'd say that's especially true in the context of a BFE date.

Most will either leave the cash somewhere visible (either in an envelope or exposed), or discreetly place it into my hand or pocket. I get the sense the client also wants to keep it discreet, so I just say thank you and wait until later to count it. Some clients will count it out, or ask for me to count it out, but that's rare. And I can't remember the last time (or any time?) I've been shorted.

The rise of the payment apps makes it more transactional though if the payment is made during the appointment. There is the need to ask for the payment handle, or provide the QR code, and most clients want to see confirmation that the payment has gone through. I'm fine with all that, but that's quite different than the discreet handover of cash. It is a transaction after all, one all of us here feel is fair and without shame, so in respects that's a positive thing that we can just be open and up front about it. I have one regular client who sends the electronic payment right before the appointment, which is nice since then it's all sorted and done so the appointment can end without the transactional aspect. Of course that requires trust, but since we're regulars it works. 

Posted

I prefer to pay in cash the first time I meet a provider. I like to make sure he sees me put the money on the table then excuse myself to the bathroom. This allows him to count it or not while I'm out of the room. I do take notice if he takes the money. Once a provider miscounted/undercounted the amount and asked about it when I returned to the room, awkward.

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21 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

I try to play down the transactional aspect of the experience.

 

21 hours ago, SecretProvider said:

I feel counting it in front of the client highlights the transactional nature and we are trying to minimize that so your experience is better.

 

54 minutes ago, nate_sf said:

I think the intent is to minimize the transactional nature and just focus on the quality of the experience overall. I'd say that's especially true in the context of a BFE date.

Thank you guys for offering this perspective, which I have never thought of before.

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19 hours ago, Nightowl said:

I used to hand cash to the provider/masseur but that started to feel weird so I started putting it on a table.

 

20 hours ago, rickster said:

This is a little awkward

No matter how many times I do it in various different ways, it still feels very weird and awkward to me.  I even told them directly this was one of the most uncomfortable aspects of the whole encounter.  They just laughed and shrugged it off.  I am probably the one who needs some attitude adjustments.

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