Dear clients, don’t do these things. Unless you’re FOS

[JB_Studio38]

Going to jump right into it:
 

 

What the fuck is up with people? I asked a question and you pose another question completely different than I asked. Then it’s vague sentence, hours later. 
 

I have specific instructions all throughout my ad. One is, don’t email if looking for a same day appointment. Respond to the auto reply with the questions asked, directly to the number listed. 
 

I know the holidays tend to bring out the idiots in the business when it comes to inquiries, but some of these guys aren’t even trying to make anything happen. Like, why are you bothering me with bullshit? If you not going to book, get the fuck off of the site. It’s really ridiculous. You can’t actually be looking to meet if you’re doing the bare minimum. Then I reply, and they don’t reply back 🤦🏽‍♂️ 

And the other thing: why so many contact the day before they are planning to go to a different city? I post my ads in advance before going anywhere. Some will hit me up expecting a same day visit, yet if something comes up where the text or email isn’t received the same night: it ends up being a case of, “I’m not in town anymore or, I’m leaving town now”. Some of them have hit me up more than once.
 

It’s like bruh, if you KNOW that I come thru the area, why not just send a message ahead of time. You know my ad is running everyday for the past fucking 365 days a year, why not ask when I may be in the area or you want to meet when I’m in the area. 
 

I’m grateful for the good clients who follow directions and don’t give the run around, but too many out there make the process so much harder. 

Edited Saturday at 02:57 AM by JB_Studio38

[JB_Studio38]

And the other thing: stop asking “are you in (insert city). Didn’t you just see my ad in the city you’re asking about? If I wasn’t there, I wouldn’t be posting there. If you are wanting to know if or when I’m there: you should volunteer that you too are in the area and want to meet there. It’s almost like they second guess the idea that a person of color who’s a RentMan, could be in the town they are in 🤦🏽‍♂️ 
 

idk how some people lack basic introduction skills, but yet expect me to feel like we’re supposed to be a match in the same room together.

[pubic_assistance]

11 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

It’s almost like they second guess the idea that a person of color who’s a RentMan, could be in the town they are in 🤦🏽‍♂️ 

Yes.

I'm sure its because of the color of your skin 🙄🙄🙄

Do you ever go back and READ what you typed ? Because when I read your frequent ranting it always sounds ridiculous. 

[viewing ownly]

"You around this evening" reads to me that he'll come to you - that night. 

As I mentioned recently, when a cavalcade of cities are listed by providers, understanding knowing you, studio38, aren't like most providers, they aren't where they say they are. It isn't out of line for a prospective client to ask you just to be sure you're not "testing the waters" like so many others do.

I've had providers in the past no-show me, not answer their door when they looked through the peephole, and shorten my time with them. Race makes no difference when it comes to people being assholes to strangers. It happens to us all. 

[nate_sf]

14 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

Going to jump right into it:
 

 

I don’t understand the issue with this exchange. The client - at your prompting no less - is just asking if you’re available, and you respond by reading him the riot act. How about responding with something like “yes, when would you like to meet?”

[+ KensingtonHomo]

To give the devil his due, we’re looking in NC and many guys come into a filtered grid, only for us to see when we look at their profile that they’re actually in a different city. Like looking at Charlotte and they’re in Durham, which is 2-3 hours away. 

[nate_sf]

2 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

To give the devil his due, we’re looking in NC and many guys come into a filtered grid, only for us to see when we look at their profile that they’re actually in a different city. Like looking at Charlotte and they’re in Durham, which is 2-3 hours away. 

Yes, that's annoying.

One of the sites I was looking at (can't remember which one) allows filtering by "home city only" or something along those lines. RM doesn't seem to have that feature, but you can sort by distance, which might help.

[+ nycman]

[Mark_fl]

I'm sure clients could come up with a pretty good list of "don'ts" for providers as well. 😉

[+ PhileasFogg]

Not all ads are clear and articulate.  And many are static.   I can’t tell you how many times I’ve responded to one - in the manner instructed - only to find out that the provider “really didn’t mean it” or “wasn’t on top of maintaining the ad”

So, the criticism cuts both ways.

Now, as to calling a potential client an idiot, it might just be better to block them to try and connect dots that make no sense.  If they really are an idiot, do you really want to meet?

[d.anders]

LOL. This sounds like someone who should get as far away from customers as possible, and avoid having anything to do with a service job. Wow. Just when you think you've heard it all.

[jmichaeliii]

I live between NYC and Philadelphia and I cannot tell you how many times providers list my area as Near Travel with no intent to ever travel there.  Or they list your city in their future travels only to delete it after you inquire about setting something up.

The good ones work will have dialogue with you if a meet is possible.  The others ignore or act like you are imposing on them. 

[Jay17403]

Wow, planning is good and I like planning.  However sometimes especially when traveling for business I end up with an evening free that I did not expect to have and I start sending messages out to see who is available. If you don’t want the business just say so and I will move on. Someone having overly specific instructions in their ads is a reason for me to keep moving. I can’t remember when that worked out.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

14 minutes ago, Jay17403 said:

Someone having overly specific instructions in their ads is a reason for me to keep moving. I can’t remember when that worked out.

Same. It’s fine is someone prefers text or to book in advance. I won’t contact someone for a same day if that’s their preference. It’s just when it gets too complicated, it reads as fussy and difficult. 

Also not responding to direct questions especially regarding availability and rate. 

[mike carey]

4 hours ago, jmichaeliii said:

I live between NYC and Philadelphia and I cannot tell you how many times providers list my area as Near Travel with no intent to ever travel there. 

TBF, by 'Near Travel', they could mean, 'I'm near, so you can travel.'

[jeezifonly]

Oh no!

Jarrod wounded -  again?

 

[JB_Studio38]

15 hours ago, nate_sf said:

I don’t understand the issue with this exchange. The client - at your prompting no less - is just asking if you’re available, and you respond by reading him the riot act. How about responding with something like “yes, when would you like to meet?”

I have to respectfully disagree with you though. Maybe you misunderstood. The issue is: I asked him, are you looking to host or come to me. That’s important, wouldn’t you think? Also in my auto reply I say: 

(Auto Reply) Hey, I'm J. To reach me for a same/next day booking, please text me @ (xxx) xxx-xxxx and include:
-
Name/Profile
Host or Travel
City Wanted
-
For more details or to advance plan your visit, view my website www. 
 

Now if I may remind you: he did not answer a single question or follow a single direction I asked. He simply said dates he would be in town, but I still had no idea who this guy was, where in town, what he’s looking for, what time, NADA. And this is email. 
 

Also, I know some clients have this idea that we may be right next door to them and don’t mind twiddling thumbs. But I very often set my ad in the main city, where I can host and travel. However, I’m not always in that part of town waiting around for clients. And notice how many hours passed? I’ll take it a step further and show you the exchange. You can see he responded back 2 days later after reading the message, then is taking forever and a day and all I get is a sloppy message about if I’m around? Around where? 

And continues…

I was professional and thorough, he was not. I’m already answering on Christmas evening, so that alone is more than enough courtesy already. If someone wants an appointment, they need to be willing to do their part in following directions and not trying to be obscure.

Ignoring messages and expecting me to keep the same tone, is not going to happen. Once it gets past a certain time at night, I may no longer be open to do same day appointments. 

 

12 hours ago, PhileasFogg said:

Not all ads are clear and articulate.  And many are static.   I can’t tell you how many times I’ve responded to one - in the manner instructed - only to find out that the provider “really didn’t mean it” or “wasn’t on top of maintaining the ad”

So, the criticism cuts both ways.

Now, as to calling a potential client an idiot, it might just be better to block them to try and connect dots that make no sense.  If they really are an idiot, do you really want to meet?

It’s not that I’m calling clients idiots. I would never. Real clients help me to keep the profession afloat and do the right things to ensure a fun and safe experience.

It’s the ones who PRETEND they are clients, but don’t actually do the things that real clients do. Case in point, from someone else who contacted me: 

Edited yesterday at 08:25 AM by JB_Studio38

[JB_Studio38]

7 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Same. It’s fine is someone prefers text or to book in advance. I won’t contact someone for a same day if that’s their preference. It’s just when it gets too complicated, it reads as fussy and difficult. 

Also not responding to direct questions especially regarding availability and rate. 

 

7 hours ago, Jay17403 said:

Wow, planning is good and I like planning.  However sometimes especially when traveling for business I end up with an evening free that I did not expect to have and I start sending messages out to see who is available. If you don’t want the business just say so and I will move on. Someone having overly specific instructions in their ads is a reason for me to keep moving. I can’t remember when that worked out.

 

I understand what the 2 of you are saying, however you have to also understand that without any rules or directions: my phone line would be going absolutely berserk with every inquiry, non of which I could actually take.

People will hit me up expecting me to host

Host in 20 minutes or NOW. 
 

How do you know there’s privacy at the place I’m hosting, at the moment you text and ask me? How would that client feel if I just asked to come to his place announced? 

Some fail to provide any real detail about themselves to let me know we’re a match.

I hear many stories from clients about bad experiences with escorts. But I have to sometimes wonder how quickly they ran out to meet that person, without actually making compatibility checks. 
 

Even if I say to a client, “yes I’m available NOW, come over my address is XXX”. How can that client know that I’m comfortable with HIM when he shows up? Y’all complain about escorts not getting hard, did you actual check to make sure the escort can perform for YOUR particular type? I ask every client nowadays, tell me something about yourself. It’s not to judge or be picky, it’s to ensure I know I can deliver. If they aren’t someone I feel I can get down with, I rather not take the money in exchange for a shitty experience.

Edited yesterday at 07:25 AM by JB_Studio38

[JB_Studio38]

11 hours ago, d.anders said:

LOL. This sounds like someone who should get as far away from customers as possible, and avoid having anything to do with a service job. Wow. Just when you think you've heard it all.

No: this sounds like someone, who has given so much to the RentMen/Masseur industry…time, money, energy: only to get people who don’t appreciate my effort. I have email after email after email on RentMasseur and RentMen from people who never end up giving any money. I’m polite, give ample info about myself and services, and yet can hardly get a full sentence from some people. Yet, I’m supposed to be ready and available for them at all times.

I think you need to not be condescending and try to cast shame: and see where things can improve. And it can start with you. Don’t come on here talking in a cocky tone, and trying to make like I’m just making up these things out of spite. 

Granted: I also admit I’m coming from a place of disadvantage: There are some cities out there, that are shitty markets. I used to think Indianapolis was the worse city to work in, until I based in Kansas City…which I already knew was bad from previous visits.

Sure there are good clients in every major metropolitan city, and I’ve met them. But certain cities: they make me work so much, for so little.

What I really am about to do and actually did before; is to STOP 🛑 all emails on RentMasseur and RentMen and just require text. It’s just becoming a waste of time. I like the auto reply feature, but not enough people bother to abide by it. And I don’t have the time and attention span to check emails every hour on the hour, nor do those email replies get sent to my phone except the RentMen app. 

Edited yesterday at 07:48 AM by JB_Studio38

[JB_Studio38]

15 hours ago, viewing ownly said:

"You around this evening" reads to me that he'll come to you - that night. 

As I mentioned recently, when a cavalcade of cities are listed by providers, understanding knowing you, studio38, aren't like most providers, they aren't where they say they are. It isn't out of line for a prospective client to ask you just to be sure you're not "testing the waters" like so many others do.

I've had providers in the past no-show me, not answer their door when they looked through the peephole, and shorten my time with them. Race makes no difference when it comes to people being assholes to strangers. It happens to us all. 

I appreciate the empathy, however definitely read the address I made to @nate_sf in that regard. It was not an innocent asking if I’m around tonight. Dude took 2 days to even respond back, and he Christmas treed (pun intended lol) over my client introduction form: and went straight to asking if I’m around tonight. On Christmas night 🤦🏽‍♂️ 

It’s like first of all: How I look taking a same day appointment on Christmas from someone who already took 2 days to get back to me? What kind of low self esteem, no life, thirsty person would I be to accept such a low effort invite? It’s fucking horrible. And he’s not the only one, I’ve already blacklisted 2 other clients this week too. 
 

This why I really don’t like to work around the holidays unless it’s with regulars, or someone new like the other day: who can send a deposit within moments of contacting to show they are serious without arguing with me about it. The toxicity of some of the inquiries that come thru, can really sour my mood. 

[DMonDude]

11 minutes ago, JB_Studio38 said:

It’s like first of all: How I look taking a same day appointment on Christmas from someone who already took 2 days to get back to me? What kind of low self esteem, no life, thirsty person would I be to accept such a low effort invite?

Literally no one would ever give a shit about how you being available to work would look. That's what a prospective client would hope for! They're the one thirsty for you! This is such an absurd and vain thing to be concerned about. Holy crap you need to chill man.

[JB_Studio38]

23 minutes ago, DMonDude said:

Literally no one would ever give a shit about how you being available to work would look. That's what a prospective client would hope for! They're the one thirsty for you! This is such an absurd and vain thing to be concerned about. Holy crap you need to chill man.

The principle 🛫 just flew over you. It’s not about being or not being available for bookings. Yes, sometimes I am available on those days and don’t mind. That’s not the desperate part.

It’s the other stuff behind it. Again: dude left me on read for 2 days. Never included a photo. Never included what hotel he was. Or area of town. Or if he wanted to host or come to me. Never included what he was looking for. Never included any mention of viewing my site. Never included how long of a visit he wanted. Never even bothered to text, as politely as I instructed.

But somehow, I should be available to this Mr. Nobody on Christmas night, because if I “am around”, I might as well right? Yes I’m taking this one email personally: but people on the RM sites do this often, and it’s inconsiderate. Just plain inconsiderate. It’s not Grindr. And I hate that app too, because it’s the epitome of a cesspool for timewasting ass dudes who just want jerk off material and free attention, knowing damn well they are not intent to actually make something happen. And RentMen and RentMasseur have almost become the same fucking thing. But it’s not a game, this is someone’s paycheck.

Edited yesterday at 08:46 AM by JB_Studio38

[DMonDude]

4 minutes ago, JB_Studio38 said:

The principle 🛫 just flew over you. It’s not about being or not being available for bookings. Yes, sometimes I am available on those days and don’t mind. That’s not the desperate part.

It’s the other stuff behind it. Again: dude left me on read for 2 days. Never included a photo. Never included what hotel he was. Or area of town. Or if he wanted to host or come to me. Never included what he was looking for. Never included any mention of viewing my site. Never included how long of a visit he wanted. Never even bothered to text, as politely as I instructed.

But somehow, I should be available to this Mr. Nobody on Christmas night, because if I “am around”, I might as well right? Yes I’m taking this one email personally: but people do this often, and it’s inconsiderate. Just plain inconsiderate. 

The principle didn't fly over me, I'm just not a psycho who cares this much about reply times or the optics of saying yes to a job. You sound crazy in all of your replies here.

Edited yesterday at 08:45 AM by DMonDude

[JB_Studio38]

2 minutes ago, DMonDude said:

The principle didn't fly over me, I'm just not a psycho who cares this much about reply times or the optics of saying yes to a job. You sound crazy in all of your replies here.

If this person wanted my time on a holiday or ANY day: he should have made the effort to do that days ago, when my reply went to him. 

You claim it sounds crazy, but you wouldn’t want someone to do that to you. You’d feel the same way. Does that sound like a person who’s “thirsty” for me? He’s lucky I even replied at all because many times I don’t say anything more after that auto reply goes out. Either they follow the directions, or I’m out. 

[DMonDude]

1 minute ago, JB_Studio38 said:

If this person wanted my time on a holiday or ANY day: he should have made the effort to do that days ago, when my reply went to him. 

You claim it sounds crazy, but you wouldn’t want someone to do that to you. You’d feel the same way. Does that sound like a person who’s “thirsty” for me? He’s lucky I even replied at all because many times I don’t say anything more after that auto reply goes out. Either they follow the directions, or I’m out. 

I get that you wished they replied to you sooner but you are GROSSLY overreacting to the fact he didn't. It's not as big of a deal as you are making it out to be. You sound like the stereotype of the crazy woman who gets mad when someone she's dating doesn't reply in 5 minutes. Obviously this isn't the same time frames, but you are coming at a situation that doesn't actually matter with the energy of a situation that is highly important or like he wronged you personally. It's just an RM DM, it is objectively not this serious.

Most of us here do not feel the same way as you are feeling, you are having a HUGE over reaction over what is basically nothing. And yes the dude was thirsty, he asked if you were around that night. He wanted you now, and you freaked out and came here to bitch to us instead of making your money or just trying to schedule a different night with him.

5 minutes ago, JB_Studio38 said:

He’s lucky I even replied at all because many times I don’t say anything more after that auto reply goes out.

Jesus christ, just do that from now on and save yourself the frustration and crazy ranting.