Clients who almost exclusively seek straight providers.

[studchaser]

1 hour ago, Danny-Darko said:

Sorry, but I can't agree with you. To me it seems like you've over analyzed the issue. I get your point, but for me it's just something that has always come natural for me since my first sexual awakenings. I do like and have liked other gay men and have had sex and relationships and even been in love with other gay men. What I like about men is manliness because I am a homosexual. And for a straight man manliness and masculinity isn't a show, a costume nor a subculture he belongs to like in the LGBTQ+ "community". It's just who and what he is. 

Donny I have to agree with you. Its an unpopular opinion and I understand. Most men that think like you and I probably have learned to seal their lips about it though. 

 

If your thing is natural effortless masculinity you cant beat straight men. Wait outside a young college sports bar or titty bar. To my brain its 1 plus equals 2.  It just is. But i support everyone's freedom of choice.

[studchaser]

15 hours ago, Danny-Darko said:

Sorry, I don't follow your reasoning. Or I'm just "none of the above". I like what I like because I like men! I don't know how else to explain it. In no moment am I delusional to think that they are going to fall in love with me and ride off into the sunset with me! They are HIRES and simply that! And I'm a CLIENT and simply that to them. In another thread I explained how I came to realize that there is never (rarely?) a connection between escort/client other than financial and often a very temporary one because of their "needs" for the present moment. At least for the ones that are "straight". Yes, there are some career courtesans who are a cut above the rest and have taken their craft seriously and made it an art form that has been around since man has become civilized. There is a reason it's called the world's oldest profession. A few are even here on this forum! But not ALL are "professionals". And most aren't especially these younger generations that have very short-sighted goals. Sorry, I don't know how else to explain it, but I am none of the above you've mentioned! 

That was a reply to sync. 

[studchaser]

1 hour ago, ApexNomad said:

I hear you, and I’m not saying your attraction isn’t real or valid—people are drawn to what they’re drawn to. But I think it’s worth examining why masculinity is often seen as more “authentic” in straight men versus gay men. Masculinity isn’t something that only straight men inherently possess, nor is it something that gay men have to perform or belong to as part of a “subculture.” There are plenty of gay men who are naturally masculine without it being a “show.”

I think the bigger issue is how society conditions us to view certain traits as more desirable when they’re associated with straightness. But at the end of the day, attraction is personal, and as long as it’s not rooted in shame or invalidating others, people are free to have their preferences. I just think it’s important to question where those preferences come from sometimes.

Why can many gay men be identified by certain cues? Its the divergence from typical masculinity that identified them to others. Id say from what i have seen living in nyc about 80 percent of out gay men can be identified as gay within 30 seconds even if they are not being extravagantly flamboyant, there is something just different. It doesn't make them bad ppl. However if your fantasy is a gridiron warrior that type of man wont stimulate you. 

 Some gay men go after the same men that would attract heterosexual females who dont have a gay man fetish. Alot of lesbians are the same way thats why alot of straight women with kids are always in the mall with a bull dyke pushing the stroller.

[Danny-Darko]

27 minutes ago, FaustOust said:

I can certainly understand why being with a “straight” man would be psychologically appealing and have had sex with very straight-appearing or straight men in my life for all those reasons.  But ultimately, I have come to realize, that the sex is more enjoyable and better with someone who actually enjoys a male body, has had sexual experience with men, and isn’t afraid to do something with another man that is “too gay.”  Not that there haven’t been exceptions, but overall I have had much more fun with men who were — well, very, very gay.

True. A very valid point you make. BUT, hiring is not the same thing as dating or a gay trick pick-up. I'm not delusional to think that with my looks and at my age a man gay or otherwise will be attracted to me and enjoy my body. Escorting is a service business, and one pays to enjoy the person and feigned attentions, hopefully in a mutually peasant manner.  

[NYXboy]

all this talk and not even one provider suggested! 

[Danny-Darko]

5 minutes ago, NYXboy said:

all this talk and not even one provider suggested! 

I suggest you go to RM and in the search criteria mark Straight/Bi/Ask Me and pages of men will come up for anyone to sift through and make their choice. 😉 People like different things and no provider is a "one size fits all". 

[+ ApexNomad]

32 minutes ago, studchaser said:

Why can many gay men be identified by certain cues? Its the divergence from typical masculinity that identified them to others. Id say from what i have seen living in nyc about 80 percent of out gay men can be identified as gay within 30 seconds even if they are not being extravagantly flamboyant, there is something just different. It doesn't make them bad ppl. However if your fantasy is a gridiron warrior that type of man wont stimulate you. 

 Some gay men go after the same men that would attract heterosexual females who dont have a gay man fetish. Alot of lesbians are the same way thats why alot of straight women with kids are always in the mall with a bull dyke pushing the stroller.

There’s a lot of assumption here about what masculinity is and how it “belongs”to straight men. The idea that most gay men can be “identified” within 30 seconds relies on stereotypes that don’t account for the diversity within the community. Sure, some gay men might have mannerisms or traits that people associate with queerness, but many don’t—it’s not a rule, just social perception shaped by exposure and bias.

And attraction isn’t just about some rigid idea of masculinity. Plenty of gay men are attracted to other gay men, whether they’re rugged, soft-spoken, muscular, or nerdy. Same goes for lesbians—reducing them to “bull dykes pushing strollers” ignores the full spectrum of their identities.

At the end of the day, people are complex, and sexuality isn’t just a game of mimicking straight people’s preferences. Everyone’s into what they’re into, but it’s good to ask—are those preferences shaped by personal experience, or by societal messaging about what’s “real” masculinity and femininity?

[jeezifonly]

Advertisers are permitted to self-identify as pretty much anything. The right man, presenting as hetero “looking for his first gay adventure” is bound to generate interest on that alone.
“I only top, I won’t let you anywhere near my ass and no kissing” 

Once the session is over though, is there really a difference between how clients might feel having been with a “straight guy” and how they might feel having been with a gay man who’s just sorta lazy and disinterested? 

[+ DrownedBoy]

I suspect that gay clients who only hire "straight" providers are the same guys who are "straight-acting" and who will only associate with "straight-acting" gay people.

You can call that what you want....

[studchaser]

3 hours ago, ApexNomad said:

There’s a lot of assumption here about what masculinity is and how it “belongs”to straight men. The idea that most gay men can be “identified” within 30 seconds relies on stereotypes that don’t account for the diversity within the community. Sure, some gay men might have mannerisms or traits that people associate with queerness, but many don’t—it’s not a rule, just social perception shaped by exposure and bias.

And attraction isn’t just about some rigid idea of masculinity. Plenty of gay men are attracted to other gay men, whether they’re rugged, soft-spoken, muscular, or nerdy. Same goes for lesbians—reducing them to “bull dykes pushing strollers” ignores the full spectrum of their identities.

At the end of the day, people are complex, and sexuality isn’t just a game of mimicking straight people’s preferences. Everyone’s into what they’re into, but it’s good to ask—are those preferences shaped by personal experience, or by societal messaging about what’s “real” masculinity and femininity?

I repect your opinion. You always give a high brow intellectual take. Sometimes that's not how it works out in these streets. 

[studchaser]

3 hours ago, jeezifonly said:

Advertisers are permitted to self-identify as pretty much anything. The right man, presenting as hetero “looking for his first gay adventure” is bound to generate interest on that alone.
“I only top, I won’t let you anywhere near my ass and no kissing” 

Once the session is over though, is there really a difference between how clients might feel having been with a “straight guy” and how they might feel having been with a gay man who’s just sorta lazy and disinterested?

Authenticity is very important to ppl with this fantasy and they usually know simply seeing the declaration of the sexual orientation is not the only thing to go by. 

Edited February 21 by studchaser

[studchaser]

10 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

I suspect that gay clients who only hire "straight" providers are the same guys who are "straight-acting" and who will only associate with "straight-acting" gay people.

You can call that what you want....

Def not true. There are ppl like those you deacribed that are super closeted. Maybe men who are downlow and married themself. However i know flaming types who only want straight men at the extreme end you have crossdressers and trans who will usually only have sex with straight men . 

[studchaser]

4 hours ago, FaustOust said:

I can certainly understand why being with a “straight” man would be psychologically appealing and have had sex with very straight-appearing or straight men in my life for all those reasons.  But ultimately, I have come to realize, that the sex is more enjoyable and better with someone who actually enjoys a male body, has had sexual experience with men, and isn’t afraid to do something with another man that is “too gay.”  Not that there haven’t been exceptions, but overall I have had much more fun with men who were — well, very, very gay.

For some ppl sex has more of a physical component for others it has more of a mental component. For some what you do in the bedroom is the most important. For some who you get into your bedroom is most important.

[+ ApexNomad]

1 hour ago, studchaser said:

I repect your opinion. You always give a high brow intellectual take. Sometimes that's not how it works out in these streets. 

I don’t share your view, but I respect your opinion too. 

[soloyo215]

I'm most certainly not in that category, but have known (way too) many gay men who prefer "straight" men. What I notice is (a) a forbidden fruit type of curiosity/desire, (b) low self-image, thinking that straight means better, (c) the ultimate masculine fantasy, they love masculinity.

I personally prefer gay men for one simple reason: why on Earth am I going to pursue a person who, by the very definition of who/what they are, doesn't like me?

[d.anders]

Many straight guys are very cool to be around, especially in a city like NY. I've always had cool straight friends, going back to my teen years. Beginning with puberty, I've been lucky to experience curious straight guys, with lots of fond sexual exploration memories. They may not want to kiss, but they're happy to let you give a great BJ. A lot of women don't enjoy giving a man oral. Many women will not rim ass. It is so fun to do these things to an inexperienced straight guy, who can't easily experience these sensations anywhere else.

[Monarchy79]

To each his own, but I just don’t see the appeal with straight men. I’ve been around them (more than I’d like to), and all I can think of is terrible hygiene, disheveled homes, and dumb conversations ( usually focused on sports  & pussy). 

The ones who have surpassed the trapping of living the life of an adult crusty teenage boy, are the ones who found wives to rear them and keep them in order. 
And their wives complain about them too.

So if you are an escort and want to appeal to gay men who seek the attention of a straight man…. Become straight…. 😎

Skip a few showers & shaves, purchase a video gaming console and put it in your sparsely furnished living room, get some flannel shirts and non-descript jeans from the thrift store, throw away the fancy briefs and get some Hanes old-school boxers, and post up…

You’ll making a killing for less work… people will pay you top dollar just for you to sit back while they suck your 🍆

 

Easy money. 

Edited February 22 by Monarchy79

[pubic_assistance]

On 2/21/2025 at 6:03 PM, studchaser said:

i know flaming types who only want straight men at the extreme end you have crossdressers and trans who will usually only have sex with straight men . 

Isn't that the whole point of being a cross dresser ? Knowing the men you like don't DO other men ..so you offer them a degree of deniability to get past their homophobia ?

 

Edited February 23 by pubic_assistance
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[SirBillybob]

1 hour ago, Monarchy79 said:

The ones who have surpassed the trapping of living the life of an adult crusty teenage boy, are the ones who found wives to rear them and keep them in order. 

Tee hee. I’ll rear them without bossing them in terms of other habits.

Edited February 22 by SirBillybob

[Monarchy79]

9 minutes ago, SirBillybob said:

Tee hee. I’ll rear them without bossing them in terms of other habits.

Well be careful with “rearing” them…. You’ll more than likely encounter skid marks & dingleberries….. two of the true essences of “straight manliness” ….

[Danny-Darko]

Some of us just like what we like without overanalyzing it. Call it what you will. Like any other fetish, you either get it or you don't. 

[SirBillybob]

2 hours ago, Monarchy79 said:

Well be careful with “rearing” them…. You’ll more than likely encounter skid marks & dingleberries….. two of the true essences of “straight manliness” ….

Funny you should say this because the chaps that I hire that turn out to be straight have extremely diligent genital and anal hygiene, holes fresh enough for sit-ins. That’s also my face’s opinion when standing in as assstool where stool undetectable. No wipes or cootie-cull scissors required. My latest gay hire left skid marks, apologetically mind you, all over the single set of Airbnb sheets, linens that were to last the stay duration. 

Edited February 22 by SirBillybob

[studchaser]

3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Isn't that the whole point of being a cross dresser ? Knowing the men you like don't DO other men ..so you offer them a degree of deniability to get past their homobobia ?

 

I dont even think there is that much awareness on the part of the straight men. If you are wearing things like cheerleader/catholic school skirts, lingerie and over the top feminine attire most women would maybe feel is "too much" you will turn on straight men(who are not homophobic ) on the visual subconcious level. Men into trans are rarely struggling with anything internally. They are usually heterosexua,maybe slightly bi ,and i mean real bi not fake rentmen "bisexual" but are just very expansive in their view of the "women" they like.A trans would never scratch the itch of someone who wants a square jawed stud.

[studchaser]

1 hour ago, Danny-Darko said:

Some of us just like what we like without overanalyzing it. Call it what you will. Like any other fetish, you either get it or you don't. 

Lol this is so perfect!!!

[Archangel]

On 2/21/2025 at 12:23 PM, ApexNomad said:

Masculinity isn’t something that only straight men inherently posses

👏🏻 👏🏻 

@Danny-Darko makes a huuuuuuge generalization if he truly believes that gay men are putting on a show or costume if they’re masculine…or vice versa. I know effeminate straight men and masculine gay men. It’s personality…