Providers that screwed you over

[MCR]

Can we talk about this?  I've had providers take my money up front then leave or left after 10 minutes. Also had a provider who got my payment and refused to work with me or give me my mom merry back. 

 

What are your horror stories? I'd love it if you called them out and posted who it was so we can see if they're are repeating offenders. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

Just search the threads for stories like that. Happened to me too.

I do know that if it happens to me again,  I'm flagging him and his ad in a CoM thread. Escorts deserve respect; thieves do not.

[+ Axiom2001]

Sean Xavier failed to "screw me."  

He gave me the most mediocre massage (his choice not mine) and took my (at that time) $250 for services non-rendered.  He'd initially wanted $300, but apparently his week was slow at that time, so he reduced his requested fee.  He was also acutely rude and disrespectful as well.  After he had concluded the massage, he remained on the bed while I dressed.  He never got up to open the door for me, and if my memory serves me accurately, he failed to say Thank you.

In my looking back, I should have engaged the services of his "then partner," a hot, muscular, big-dicked man who was the rave at this site/forum during those times.

One well known escort had recommended him to me.  I should have honored his enticing recommendation. 

[marylander1940]

10 minutes ago, Axiom2001 said:

Sean Xavier failed to "screw me."  

He gave me the most mediocre massage (his choice not mine) and took my (at that time) $250 for services non-rendered.  He'd initially wanted $300, but apparently his week was slow at that time, so he reduced his requested fee.  He was also acutely rude and disrespectful as well.  After he had concluded the massage, he remained on the bed while I dressed.  He never got up to open the door for me, and if my memory serves me accurately, he failed to say Thank you.

In my looking back, I should have engaged the services of his "then partner," a hot, muscular, big-dicked man who was the rave at this site/forum during those times.

One well known escort had recommended him to me.  I should have honored his enticing recommendation. 

Many people had wonderful encounters with him at the beginning of his career. Later on he retired and came back multiple times because of getting engaged, getting his chemistry degree, breaking up with his fiancé, etc. and his services and attitude got worse... PNP? 

 

 

 

[Cliff]

1 hour ago, Axiom2001 said:

Sean Xavier failed to "screw me."  

He gave me the most mediocre massage (his choice not mine) and took my (at that time) $250 for services non-rendered.  He'd initially wanted $300, but apparently his week was slow at that time, so he reduced his requested fee.  He was also acutely rude and disrespectful as well.  After he had concluded the massage, he remained on the bed while I dressed.  He never got up to open the door for me, and if my memory serves me accurately, he failed to say Thank you.

In my looking back, I should have engaged the services of his "then partner," a hot, muscular, big-dicked man who was the rave at this site/forum during those times.

One well known escort had recommended him to me.  I should have honored his enticing recommendation. 

You’re speaking about Andrew Justice, a favorite escort of many. I saw him twice in years past. Lovely guy. Huge tool. Even bigger smile. Miss that guy!

[Cliff]

1 hour ago, Axiom2001 said:

Sean Xavier failed to "screw me."  

He gave me the most mediocre massage (his choice not mine) and took my (at that time) $250 for services non-rendered.  He'd initially wanted $300, but apparently his week was slow at that time, so he reduced his requested fee.  He was also acutely rude and disrespectful as well.  After he had concluded the massage, he remained on the bed while I dressed.  He never got up to open the door for me, and if my memory serves me accurately, he failed to say Thank you.

In my looking back, I should have engaged the services of his "then partner," a hot, muscular, big-dicked man who was the rave at this site/forum during those times.

One well known escort had recommended him to me.  I should have honored his enticing recommendation. 

Wow, there go my fantasies about Sean Xavier, right down the proverbial crapper ha ha 

[marylander1940]

18 minutes ago, Cliff said:

You’re speaking about Andrew Justice, a favorite escort of many. I saw him twice in years past. Lovely guy. Huge tool. Even bigger smile. Miss that guy!

He used to post on here, very nice guy!

[Becket]

No chance this thread turning nasty.

[kaboom35]

I had a threeway with Andrew and Sean.  It was really good time.    Since then I have been interested in seeing Sean solo since Andrew retired but all the recent reviews have given me pause.    

[SERVICESRENDERED]

It is funny how the creator of this debate invites people to be specific, "love it if you called them out and posted who it was' and yet he was very ambiguous about his horror stories. 

[Michael PhD]

4 hours ago, Cliff said:

You’re speaking about Andrew Justice, a favorite escort of many. I saw him twice in years past. Lovely guy. Huge tool. Even bigger smile. Miss that guy!

 

Agree. He was a lot of fun. 

[Guest]

12 hours ago, MCR said:

... or give me my mom merry back...

I don't know what you're trying to say. That being said, I high-tail it if the provider wants the money up-front. It's a pretty reliable sign of a shyster. 

[NyGold]

The problem is that providers who screw in the non biblical sense can often come after you in other ways. Deposits, electronic trail with ID and other info etc.

My policy now is no deposit, and I’ll show a provider an envelope containing their donation if it seems they’re uneasy when we meet (after all they have bad experiences with clients too) but payment upon full receipt of goods. 

My bad experiences come under the following categories:

- financial: deposit, upfront payment etc then they disappear or change terms (something @Jarrod_Uncut can’t understand is a common experience) 

- service: they can’t get physically ready for what is expected and discussed prior to accepting the appointment, and don’t offer compensation (if already paid) or discount (if yet to be paid) or even apologize (personally even if out the whole donation I’d likely be ok with an attempt at even faking being sorry). One provider said he was really straight and doing this as he was totally broke hence being unable to perform - my response to him as I walked out and he was threatening to track me down and make my life miserable (in whispers as he was nervous about his neighbors) was he should find another way to figure out his identity issues and if the issue was he wasn’t “in to me” he shouldn’t be in this profession, or should have screened me beforehand. 

- misrepresenting themselves or set-up: outdated photos, claiming they can host then demanding a hotel fee right before the apt (in one case the provider met me in the lobby of a hotel which I assumed was for his comfort, but was actually because he hadn’t checked in yet), having roommate who is present (in one case in  a studio apt, in another in a hotel room at 2am with “nowhere for him to go”, being in the living room of a friend the provider was crashing with and being unable to use the bathroom as “my friend doesn’t like strangers using it”’etc)

- threatening behavior: it can turn nasty, one can feel unsafe either physically there in the moment (when you are literally naked and most vulnerable) or more generally (passive aggressive comments showing they’ve researched you based on ID etc). In one case the provider made reference to something and I was surprised as I hadn’t discussed that about myself (and wouldn’t) and he himself revealed he had my car license plates checked from the time I arrived and his friend (doing the check) had sent info to his phone. In another I left my wallet in someone’s hotel room; I realized as soon as I was in the lobby. He wouldn’t let me come up to get it but said he would bring it down but asked me to meet at Dunkin Donuts across the street. He arrived 40 mins later (originally saying he would be right down), gave me my wallet and didn’t say a word and left, I checked for my license, credit cards, cash etc and everything seemed ok but later found a note saying “you will never be free of me” with the date of the encounter. 

- manipulation that makes you want to be screwed: sob stories, typically of domestic abuse from a partner, sickness either theirs or a close relative, can’t pay rent etc 

These are all with providers having great reviews. Yes they can have off days, they can have difficult times, we are all human. But the legality requiring donations for time doesn’t mask the reality of what is understood to be the purpose. 

As with dating I’ve incorporated all this into my equation of what might be out there and am prepared to endure this for the (more likely) better encounters. But eyes wide open. 

 

 

 

[KrisParr]

A fairly well-known provider from about 10 years ago (no longer in the business) “got” me for a few hundred bucks. I had the posh hotel room ready, a nice bottle of wine (he selected in advance) chilled and anxious for a great time. At the exact moment he was due, I received a text that he couldn’t make it and immediately blocked me. Of course I submitted a review to the now defunct Rentboy site, but the $$ loss was painful. I even tried to book another provider but no one was available. He continued to receive positive reviews for a couple of years. Still befuddles me to this day. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

8 hours ago, NyGold said:

- financial: deposit, upfront payment etc then they disappear or change terms (something @Jarrod_Uncut can’t understand is a common experience) 

 

It’s not that I don’t understand. It’s just:

Jokes aside, I always say: I can’t speak on what another escort did or didn’t do. That’s not to dilute your experience by any means but, everyone has a way of doing things that suits their needs. I know I don’t disappear or change my terms. That can happen whether there’s a deposit or not. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

9 hours ago, NyGold said:

- service: they can’t get physically ready for what is expected and discussed prior to accepting the appointment, and don’t offer compensation (if already paid) or discount (if yet to be paid) or even apologize (personally even if out the whole donation I’d likely be ok with an attempt at even faking being sorry). One provider said he was really straight and doing this as he was totally broke hence being unable to perform - my response to him as I walked out and he was threatening to track me down and make my life miserable (in whispers as he was nervous about his neighbors) was he should find another way to figure out his identity issues and if the issue was he wasn’t “in to me” he shouldn’t be in this profession, or should have screened me beforehand. 

- misrepresenting themselves or set-up: outdated photos, claiming they can host then demanding a hotel fee right before the apt (in one case the provider met me in the lobby of a hotel which I assumed was for his comfort, but was actually because he hadn’t checked in yet), having roommate who is present (in one case in  a studio apt, in another in a hotel room at 2am with “nowhere for him to go”, being in the living room of a friend the provider was crashing with and being unable to use the bathroom as “my friend doesn’t like strangers using it”’etc)

- threatening behavior: it can turn nasty, one can feel unsafe either physically there in the moment (when you are literally naked and most vulnerable) or more generally (passive aggressive comments showing they’ve researched you based on ID etc). In one case the provider made reference to something and I was surprised as I hadn’t discussed that about myself (and wouldn’t) and he himself revealed he had my car license plates checked from the time I arrived and his friend (doing the check) had sent info to his phone. In another I left my wallet in someone’s hotel room; I realized as soon as I was in the lobby. He wouldn’t let me come up to get it but said he would bring it down but asked me to meet at Dunkin Donuts across the street. He arrived 40 mins later (originally saying he would be right down), gave me my wallet and didn’t say a word and left, I checked for my license, credit cards, cash etc and everything seemed ok but later found a note saying “you will never be free of me” with the date of the encounter. 

- manipulation that makes you want to be screwed: sob stories, typically of domestic abuse from a partner, sickness either theirs or a close relative, can’t pay rent etc 

These are all with providers having great reviews. Yes they can have off days, they can have difficult times, we are all human. But the legality requiring donations for time doesn’t mask the reality of what is understood to be the purpose. 

As with dating I’ve incorporated all this into my equation of what might be out there and am prepared to endure this for the (more likely) better encounters. But eyes wide open. 

 

 

 

claiming they can host then demanding a hotel fee right before the apt (in one case the provider met me in the lobby of a hotel which I assumed was for his comfort

Well I already addressed the above, in another thread. I do think providers should be upfront about their situation with hosting if it’s not necessarily readily available. In that case, a deposit to cover at least a portion of the room, would be better than just having the client show up and not be checked in. That’s why I do it…And I think it’s a low drama way of doing biz. Client sends deposit, I can book the room, and all is well. 
 

Versus the drama of:  A) booking room before I substantiate the client is serious about an appointment, only to be told “I didn’t book an appointment”. Or B) waiting for client to show up and then meeting outside for hotel and collecting payment (which is tacky and doesn’t give me time to get my ambience situated).

Everything else you mentioned, it does sound ratchet. But again, you might be picking the wrong guys or tighten up your filters. Especially when you say you “left your wallet” in someone’s hotel room. And again you say you walked out of another hotel room. And then a 3rd time you mentioned going to someone’s studio apartment.

 

I think I know what the issue is: Maybe you need to stop going to guy’s place, and just host yourself? You wanna know something: in my personal hookup life, I learned to stop going to guy’s places for first meetups. I kept having shitty experiences too. Now, when I’m on the road or have my privacy at a hotel…I either make guys come to me, or I bring them back to my hotel. I only “travel out” for paid clients. Every once in awhile, I’ll have a couple guys that I go to their place who I can trust. But even then, there’s been guys I went to, and had to stop going because they turned disrespectful. Why am I going to waste my gas and energy visiting someone like that?
 

I almost feel some people get off on being a dick and having guys come and go, back to back. I don’t do that shit anymore

This is why I encourage clients to not RELY on the escort to host. We’re both adults. You can be ready to host just as much as I need to be expected to host. Even if you’re married. There’s hotels. Some accept cash, most will accept a re-loadable type of card. Call ahead. Perhaps wait until the escort arrives, before booking the room. If he doesn’t, you’re not at a loss. Now there’s even dayuse if you can’t stay the night. If I have to host and I’m not doing it from a place I already live in, there’s going to be a deposit.  

 

Edited July 31, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[italianboyph]

I'd never screw someone over like that, especially since clients do it often to me. I've gone to homes and they don't answer the phone,  sat in hotels lobbies and was giving wrong room numbers with no answer, not paid several times. I think if and this goes for both providers and clients, if you're not serious and looking to screw people over then you shouldn't bother.

Edited July 31, 2023 by italianboyph

[Bucky]

10 hours ago, NyGold said:

... gave me my wallet and didn’t say a word and left, I checked for my license, credit cards, cash etc and everything seemed ok but later found a note saying “you will never be free of me” with the date of the encounter. 

And??   🫢

[mike carey]

1 hour ago, italianboyph said:

I'd never screw someone over like that, especially since clients do it often to me. I've gone to homes and they don't answer the phone,  sat in hotels lobbies and was giving wrong room numbers with no answer, not paid several times. I think if and this goes for both providers and clients, if you're not serious and looking to screw people over then you shouldn't bother.

I'm sorry this has happened to you. You're upfront and a great guy. My ass, your dick works for me.

[italianboyph]

26 minutes ago, mike carey said:

I'm sorry this has happened to you. You're upfront and a great guy. My ass, your dick works for me.

Thank you.  Unfortunately it happens  

[+ FrankR]

I am usually at fault too, by allowing my little head to think for me, ignoring my better judgment and therefore allowing the provider to take advantage of me. I call it stupid tax. 🙈

[CuriousByNature]

8 hours ago, arnemgreeves said:

A few spring to mind. 

I arranged with a person to meet at a stated time, and at their usual address. When I got there, I texted them to say I was in the vicinity, and they said they were "overbooked" and "a lot of people come in". OK, so there wasn't a text exchange where I didn't state the exact time to meet? go f yourself. Why even respond if you didn't want to meet?

I saw an escort who after payment, proceeded to preach to me about some spiritual nonsense. look, I paid you to fuck not get converted. leave me be and fuck off, and don't assume I'm that easily led. 

 

 

Sadly, there seems to be a lot of disrespectful people out there and a general lack of decency at times.  It's unfortunate both those experiences turned out that way. 

[Guest]

8 hours ago, arnemgreeves said:

...spring to mind...

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by Unicorn

[Archangel]

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Edited August 1, 2023 by Archangel

[italianboyph]

On 7/31/2023 at 2:20 PM, arnemgreeves said:

A few spring to mind. 

I arranged with a person to meet at a stated time, and at their usual address. When I got there, I texted them to say I was in the vicinity, and they said they were "overbooked" and "a lot of people come in". OK, so there wasn't a text exchange where I didn't state the exact time to meet? go f yourself. Why even respond if you didn't want to meet?

I saw an escort who after payment, proceeded to preach to me about some spiritual nonsense. look, I paid you to fuck not get converted. leave me be and fuck off, and don't assume I'm that easily led. 

 

 

People like that know exactly what they're doing especially since you already gave a time for the booking.