How to get providers to arrive on time

[+ DrownedBoy]

I suppose I've been too lenient, because my regulars are arriving way too late (1 to 2 hours).

How can I politely, but firmly, make clear that I need them to be more punctual? Once, I reluctantly cancelled a provider after he was 90 minutes late, and he was so angry at being "rushed" that he blocked me.

 

If I kept making last minute changes with a provider, I'd be ashamed of myself. How do clients do it so easily? Punctuality is one trait I've never encountered. 

[+ nycman]

Make ground rules….and stick to them. 

“If you’re going to be more than 10 minutes late, I expect a text.
If I haven’t heard from you at the 10 minute mark, I will continue my evening without you."

”If you’re more than 30 minutes late or any reason, consider the meeting cancelled."

The provider is free to accept the appointment with the conditions, or not. 

[rdwyer78]

If a provider isn’t ready within 10 minutes of our scheduled start time with no excuse, then I walk out of the hotel lobby!

[Jamie21]

That’s extremely unprofessional. If they are that late without a reasonable excuse and an apology then don’t hire them again. 
Unfortunately this industry does have a lot of amateur providers who seem to treat it as a hobby and mess their clients around. 

[Kevin Slater]

Keep in mind if he's stuck on a subway, he may not be able to text.

Kevin Slater

[Guest leftbench23]

3 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

I suppose I've been too lenient, because my regulars are arriving way too late (1 to 2 hours).

How can I politely, but firmly, make clear that I need them to be more punctual? Once, I reluctantly cancelled a provider after he was 90 minutes late, and he was so angry at being "rushed" that he blocked me.

 

If I kept making last minute changes with a provider, I'd be ashamed of myself. How do clients do it so easily? Punctuality is one trait I've never encountered. 

You’re a better than I… I would have never waited around 90 minutes.

[+ DrownedBoy]

2 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

That’s extremely unprofessional. If they are that late without a reasonable excuse and an apology then don’t hire them again. 
Unfortunately this industry does have a lot of amateur providers who seem to treat it as a hobby and mess their clients around. 

That's what happened to me. Despite the fact I'd hired this guy 6 times before,  he just kept playing games and saying he "made a wrong turn" until I cut him off.

Late is one thing; making the provider think you're coming when you're not is another.

[jeezifonly]

Hire ones who host. 

[+ The Big Guy]

51 minutes ago, jeezifonly said:

Hire ones who host. 

I have had better luck with one’s who host as well.  My go to guy for massage always receives me promptly at his house but is usually very late when I am hosting.  

[BuffaloKyle]

Tell them to arrive an hour earlier than you actually want them so when they arrive they are on time then! 😁

But yeah it's always a good idea to not have anything planned too close after your appt where you need it to begin and end exactly when you plan. Always give yourself buffer time. But yeah I always seem to notice when I'm hosting and a guy says he's on his way and will be there in 30 min it tends to be an hour always. 

[Luv2play]

I have to say my guys are pretty punctual and when there are delays because of traffic or unavoidable issues they always text me about the problems and give accurate revised eta's. 

I attribute this to the fact I hire quality providers who are reliable and professional. I check their reviews before hiring which help me in my decision making.

[Shawn Monroe]

 

8 hours ago, nycman said:

Make ground rules….and stick to them. 

“If you’re going to be more than 10 minutes late, I expect a text.
If I haven’t heard from you at the 10 minute mark, I will continue my evening without you."

”If you’re more than 30 minutes late or any reason, consider the meeting cancelled."

The provider is free to accept the appointment with the conditions, or not. 

Completely agree with this. If you’re not going to get your providers on here and in other places, then hold them accountable. 

[maninsoma]

Throughout life in different settings, I've encountered many people who are punctual and some who are just almost always late.  That's been true in social settings, in work settings, and when hiring escorts and masseurs.  I don't know why some people simply seem to have an inability to show up on time for anything, or maybe even deliberately arrive late for some psychological reason, but there are certain people who just behave this way.  If it's an issue with a certain person, as others have said you can simply state your limit ahead of time and then enforce it.

I'll admit that my most regular hire was someone who was typically late.  It only worked for me because we always did overnights, so once I adjusted to the reality that he was almost always going to arrive a half hour later than planned it didn't bother me too much. For an hour appointment with someone I've never met before, not being ready on time or at least close to on time is a deal breaker.  If I go to someone and he's not ready within 10 minutes or so of our scheduled appointment time, I'll just text them that I'm leaving since they aren't available.  If a guy is coming to me I'll be a bit more patience, but even then I have my limits, particularly if the guy isn't texting me to say why he's running late.

[Jamie21]

I try hard to be on time. If someone hires me I figure that they’re probably doing something else afterwards so they expect me to be punctual otherwise things will be rushed…and no one wants that.

This discussion reminds me of a time I turned up an hour early to an appointment. The client had hired me to join his session with another guy he’d hired after they’d had an hour or so together….I was to be the extra ‘energy’ joining the session part way through. But I made a mistake with my reading of the clock and turned up an hour early! I waited in the hotel lobby until they were ready for me. I’m able to manage many things well (money, relationships, house etc) but managing time is the most challenging thing. So difficult!

[EastbayMike]

On 5/14/2022 at 9:24 AM, DrownedBoy said:

I suppose I've been too lenient, because my regulars are arriving way too late (1 to 2 hours).

How can I politely, but firmly, make clear that I need them to be more punctual? Once, I reluctantly cancelled a provider after he was 90 minutes late, and he was so angry at being "rushed" that he blocked me.

 

If I kept making last minute changes with a provider, I'd be ashamed of myself. How do clients do it so easily? Punctuality is one trait I've never encountered. 

If an escort I hired was routinely 1 to 2 hours late there is no way in hell they would be my "regular." That is just way too rude. 

[marylander1940]

On 5/14/2022 at 12:24 PM, DrownedBoy said:

I suppose I've been too lenient, because my regulars are arriving way too late (1 to 2 hours).

How can I politely, but firmly, make clear that I need them to be more punctual? Once, I reluctantly cancelled a provider after he was 90 minutes late, and he was so angry at being "rushed" that he blocked me.

 

If I kept making last minute changes with a provider, I'd be ashamed of myself. How do clients do it so easily? Punctuality is one trait I've never encountered. 

That's weird! Do they even text you telling you they're going to be late by an hour?

Do you live in a city or do they have to drive hours to you?

I have a feeling you're contacting the wrong kind of providers. Guys usually come to me on time they also walk to me, Uber or take the metro.

[marylander1940]

On 5/14/2022 at 12:42 PM, nycman said:

Make ground rules….and stick to them. 

“If you’re going to be more than 10 minutes late, I expect a text.
If I haven’t heard from you at the 10 minute mark, I will continue my evening without you."

”If you’re more than 30 minutes late or any reason, consider the meeting cancelled."

The provider is free to accept the appointment with the conditions, or not. 

The provider already has a lot in his mind getting ready and arriving as soon as possible. After a client canceled something for being half an hour late he'll learn to be on time hopefully. No need to post rules about what should be common sense

[+ nycman]

41 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

No need to post rules about what should be common sense

….and yet…..there obviously is a need. 

[+ purplekow]

I am chronically late in my own life, but I am almost always on time for an escort and when I am late, it is not more than 15 minutes or so and with a text to inform the escort.  

IF promptness is important to you, when you set up the appointment state that you have some activities an hour or so after the appointment is going to end and so you will not be able to keep the appointment if it starts much later than the appointed time.  

For me, I usually host at my home and I am happy if they show up the same day. Just last week, I had three escorts cancel on me day of.  Once, I called after an hour just to check that nothing was wrong.   I used to be distressed when escorts were late, but now, I just leave the rest of the evening or day empty and plan on doing some other things while I wait.   Late definitely is more common than on time.  

Edited May 15, 2022 by purplekow

[marylander1940]

29 minutes ago, nycman said:

….and yet…..there obviously is a need. 

90% of my hires are on time and if they're late all of them have the common sense to let me know. 

not the first time you seem to enjoy treating escorts with ultimatum style approach. 

Text me if something comes up you're late sounds a bit friendlier. 

On 5/14/2022 at 12:42 PM, nycman said:

Make ground rules….and stick to them. 

“If you’re going to be more than 10 minutes late, I expect a text.
If I haven’t heard from you at the 10 minute mark, I will continue my evening without you."

”If you’re more than 30 minutes late or any reason, consider the meeting cancelled."

The provider is free to accept the appointment with the conditions, or not. 

Metro here in DC runs every 20 mins. except the red line that runs every 10. www.wmata.com is no longer a reliable site and app and therefore if a provider misses a train by 1 min. he'd be late. 

@DrownedBoy 

Maybe you like Carrie Bradshaw you're picking the wrong kind of men (escorts in this case). 

 

 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

On 5/14/2022 at 11:42 AM, nycman said:

Make ground rules….and stick to them. 

“If you’re going to be more than 10 minutes late, I expect a text.
If I haven’t heard from you at the 10 minute mark, I will continue my evening without you."

”If you’re more than 30 minutes late or any reason, consider the meeting cancelled."

The provider is free to accept the appointment with the conditions, or not. 

Your intention sounds good, but this can come off a bit bitchy. Because: if I make these same sort of requests from clients, they don’t even respond at all. Also, “continue my evening without you” just automatically comes off like the escort is unimportant. And if you meant “more than 30 minutes late for any reason”, that’s very uncompromising. 

 

On 5/14/2022 at 7:08 PM, BuffaloKyle said:

Tell them to arrive an hour earlier than you actually want them so when they arrive they are on time then! 😁

But yeah it's always a good idea to not have anything planned too close after your appt where you need it to begin and end exactly when you plan. Always give yourself buffer time. But yeah I always seem to notice when I'm hosting and a guy says he's on his way and will be there in 30 min it tends to be an hour always. 

This is a good strategy. And yes, I’ve suggested to clients as well to leave buffer times when arranging appointments. Some people try to squeeze in bookings too close to other plans. 
 

I had a scenario last month in Seattle (one of the reasons I’ve implemented mandatory deposits for ALL new clients), where the client specifically said he’d be available “after 7 p.m.” on Friday evening in our original booking texts. However, he failed to inform me that he conveniently and without my knowledge “made plans” after our session, probably within 30 minutes of our 1 hour session. 
 

However, he decided to change it to meaning he said AT 7 p.m. Well, I was taking care of something that ran me past 7 pm. by about 45 minutes. He got up the ass attitude about it, and rudely cancelled on me. Fucker didn’t even give a deposit or cancellation fee. It was an outcall so, it wasn’t like he was waiting in my hotel lobby. 
 

If he had even a bit of integrity, he should have told me the moment he decided to add plans to his evening, and asked me if that would be okay. And if I had known, I would have better adjusted my schedule to ensure “after 7 p.m.” meant “at 7 p.m.” 
 

14 hours ago, maninsoma said:

Throughout life in different settings, I've encountered many people who are punctual and some who are just almost always late.  That's been true in social settings, in work settings, and when hiring escorts and masseurs.  I don't know why some people simply seem to have an inability to show up on time for anything, or maybe even deliberately arrive late for some psychological reason, but there are certain people who just behave this way.  If it's an issue with a certain person, as others have said you can simply state your limit ahead of time and then enforce it.

I'll admit that my most regular hire was someone who was typically late.  It only worked for me because we always did overnights, so once I adjusted to the reality that he was almost always going to arrive a half hour later than planned it didn't bother me too much. For an hour appointment with someone I've never met before, not being ready on time or at least close to on time is a deal breaker.  If I go to someone and he's not ready within 10 minutes or so of our scheduled appointment time, I'll just text them that I'm leaving since they aren't available.  If a guy is coming to me I'll be a bit more patience, but even then I have my limits, particularly if the guy isn't texting me to say why he's running late.

I’m one of those “occasional late” types, BUT the way people define late is often in a way that implies “my time is more important than yours, so don’t be late”. And that is where I have to draw the line.

It also depends on the context of being late. If an escort is traveling to a client, in some cases cross state or country commuting…there needs to be some buffer time as @BuffaloKyle stated. I’ve had times people book sessions with not ample notice, and expect timely arrival. Well…I didn’t really know said appointment was happening so, I may not have the necessary awareness that I need to adjust my time to coordinate.
 

The other thing too is: When you spend a lot of time running around on a daily basis, it’s hard to stay organized and on time. I know people who are on time to everything, but their organizational skills are in chaos. They’re busy being on time for everyone else, but neglect their own self responsibilities.
 

Some people have to understand that when you’re trying to do multiple things at once in a different element, it’s not always going to be on the dot time. I also periodically require some time throughout the day to routinely “decompress” especially if I’m switching between activities or have commute to a client. Even a 1 hour session with a client, can actually take up 3 hours of the day when you factor in getting ready, driving there, driving back, stopping at the store, getting gas etc. 

I also have had friends, especially GAY friends who do things very spontaneous. Or, they had plans for it first, and then run it by me after the fact and expect me to be able to make it happen as soon as they can. No, that’s not fair. They get a head start in the activity, because they planned it already. If I’m truly supposed to be on time, inform me at the same time the idea for the plans is being coordinated so I can have a say in the planning. Not AFTER the plans are already made.

[Jamie21]

3 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

I had a scenario last month in Seattle (one of the reasons I’ve implemented mandatory deposits for ALL new clients), where the client specifically said he’d be available “after 7 p.m.” on Friday evening in our original booking texts.

That seems too vague for me. “After 7” could mean anytime after 7. I would have said “ok I’ll turn up at 7:30 is that ok?”. I always book clients for a specific time. 

I’m finding that clients like promptness and clarity around arrangements and this is good. I have many demands on my life, I do other work, so having my day planned is important (even though I like dong things spontaneously). 

I find the worst culprits for flakiness and not committing to plans are models who I film porn with. Clients are easy to deal with in comparison to filming partners. 

I have one of those ‘fans only sites’ (justforfans) for my massage porn. I need to shoot regular content because the fans expect a new movie every couple of weeks. Arranging the sessions is even more difficult than dealing with flaky clients. I have to coordinate a location (hotel or studio), my filming/lighting guy, the model who will perform with me, agree with them what we will shoot etc. A few models are very professional and we get it done easily but most just seem to film content randomly at the last minute on their phone…it looks rubbish. 

I now think that unfortunately many people in the sex work industry take a very casual view of it - hirers, sex workers, and those providing other services. There’s probably 20% of those involved taking a professional attitude as is more often seen in other areas of business and 80% viewing it as trivial and amateur. For me it’s my work, I like to take a serious approach and do it right. It’s actually much more fun and enjoyable work when it’s done well. 

 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

8 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

I now think that unfortunately many people in the sex work industry take a very casual view of it - hirers, sex workers, and those providing other services. There’s probably 20% of those involved taking a professional attitude as is more often seen in other areas of business and 80% viewing it as trivial and amateur. For me it’s my work, I like to take a serious approach and do it right. It’s actually much more fun and enjoyable work when it’s done well. 

 

That’s probably facts. However, I do also take my work seriously. Though I do believe scheduling a time “window” can be less pressure than “if you’re not here sharp at xx:xx, you’re cancelled”. That doesn’t mean not taking it seriously. I recently had my windshield replaced, where the guys come to my place and do it. They didn’t give a specific time, but rather a sort of time window. That’s perhaps how some guys should go by…when it comes to outcalls. Especially in big cities where traffic and getting places can take longer. I’ve even gotten my hotel accommodations close to where my outcall of the evening will be hosting, just so I don’t have to worry about being delayed. I do agree slightly when I am hosting, it’s easier for me to be on time when I’m already wherever I need to be. 

Edited May 16, 2022 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jamie21]

Oh I’m sure that you take the work very seriously @Jarrod_Uncut. I wasn’t including you in the 80% 🙂. Though I do argue that “after 7:30” is too vague…”between 7:30 and 8” is better.

Most of the issues between mismatched expectations arise from wrong assumptions made by either party so I try to reduce the risk of those happening. 
 

 

[italianboyph]

I think if a provider is running late he should always notify, but 1 to 1 hours late is a bit much. I'd def give him a warning especially if you're on a time.