Law enforcement?

[Alchemy]

Does anyone here -- clients or escorts -- ever worry about being stung by law enforcement? I'm guessing big cities with significant tourism and gay populations (NYC, LA, SF, etc.) are hands-off. But is it a worry for anyone or are those days past us?

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

Some similar discussion from 2020...

The instances of it happening are few and far between.

I'd be most concerned if working at or patronizing a massage parlor posing as a front for happy endings with illegal labor, as those employees are the most vulnerable group and public opinion frowns on taking advantage of these vulnerable groups of people for sex.

I'm less worried about hiring a man who advertises independently, as society is more apt to let two consenting adults do whatever they agree to. 

I mention societal acceptance, because that is important when it comes to how elected officials prioritize enforcement and how a jury may perceive your case.

 

Edited August 8 by Vegas_Millennial

[+ azdr0710]

Find someone you like on Rentmen and search here in the forum for chatter if it exists.  If not found, start a new thread inquiry here. You can also stick with well-reviewed providers already "approved" here in existing threads. Stings often occur only when the public complains about activity in public bathrooms (Larry Craig, George Michael were busted this way). Avoid money talk at a meeting and definitely do not associate acts with money (lock down the financials ahead of the meeting). You may want to host to avoid those classic scenes of undercover cops busting in from the neighboring connecting motel room after the trapping undercover dude gets you to agree to pay him "$100 for a blowjob" on tape and video!!

Edited August 8 by azdr0710

[+ KensingtonHomo]

No, I don't worry it at all. 

[dbar123]

The police have other priorities, like pardoning sex traffickers 

[+ Jamie21]

Hire in the UK. We’re a sensible country: you can safely discuss buying sex here. It’s legal, within certain parameters. 

[Alchemy]

Thanks for the helpful responses. I appreciate them.

[+ SirBillybob]

On the one hand, in Canada we have Montreal metro uniformed police dropping in to, say, Campus on their bar venue beats a few steps away from the private MSM dance area where paid for erections and orgasms abound. Appropriately live and let live. 

On the other hand, non-pimp 3rd party vehicle drivers of female sex workers to their appointments arrested and convicted for participating in what is ostensibly an added safety mechanism for the women’s occupational hazards. 

Edited August 9 by SirBillybob

[jeezifonly]

If you’re the only homosexual in Moosejaw, Idaho and you bring in a guy for an overnight from big city Boise, and there’s folks around who don’t approve of you and like to watch every coming and going and have the sheriff’s personal cellphone phone number, you might think twice. Otherwise I wouldn’t worry in major markets.

That said - 
Always be considerate of your host’s discretion requests, no matter which side of the bargain you’re on. 

[marylander1940]

On 8/7/2025 at 7:03 PM, Alchemy said:

Does anyone here -- clients or escorts -- ever worry about being stung by law enforcement? I'm guessing big cities with significant tourism and gay populations (NYC, LA, SF, etc.) are hands-off. But is it a worry for anyone or are those days past us?

Vegas, Miami, Oklahoma.

All the cities you mentioned are safe.

[marylander1940]

11 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

Hire in the UK. We’re a sensible country: you can safely discuss buying sex here. It’s legal, within certain parameters. 

We're backwards!

 

[Thelatin]

6 hours ago, jeezifonly said:

like to watch every coming and going

When I’m at work and my blink camera records my “friend” frolicking about my yard taking selfies lol.  The poor neighbor lady.

[+ SirBillybob]

6 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

We're backwards!

 

Want to simply enjoy & pay for doing ‘the reverse cowboy'? Busted. 

[DMonDude]

From what i've read/heard. In the U.S. at least, police are largely not concerned with this stuff unless it's tied to other crimes like drugs and human trafficking. It otherwise isn't worth their limited time and resources. Especially now days that it's moved online and isn't a provider on the street in public (which can tie to public indecency and what not) like it used to be back in the day. Unless there's some new Satanic Panic around sex work, there's not going to be enough public pressure for government/police to want to go after that many random individuals. Kinda the same as before Weed got legalized, they'd go after you if you were being stupid/obvious about it or were selling/buying alongside more illicit drugs but they never had the time or money to go after every random stoner/dealer who didn't do anything else wrong.

[pubic_assistance]

On 8/7/2025 at 7:03 PM, Alchemy said:

Does anyone here -- clients or escorts -- ever worry about being stung by law enforcement?

I dont' agree with some of the cavalier opinions above.

You never know when the law enforcement climate will change in your area. This is especially true in some parts of the US during election season. So for MY part, I NEVER put too much incriminating information in writing when reaching out to a provider. My standard approach is to book a massage ..see how that goes, and then if I enjoy their company, I may discuss IN PERSON for more and meet up again.

[DMonDude]

28 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

I dont' agree with some of the cavalier opinions above.

You never know when the law enforcement climate will change in your area. This is especially true in some parts of the US during election season. So for MY part, I NEVER put too much incriminating information in writing when reaching out to a provider. My standard approach is to book a massage ..see how that goes, and then if I enjoy their company, I may discuss IN PERSON for more and meet up again.

The opinions above aren't really "cavalier", just realistic based on knowing how police have to prioritize who they go after. You're not wrong that political climate is a factor as some of us have said. But your method isn't really any safer, sting operations wait till you make a deal verbally in person because they have to actually catch you red handed. So you're not actually lowering your chances much.

[mtaabq]

On 8/8/2025 at 10:21 PM, marylander1940 said:

Vegas, Miami, Oklahoma.

All the cities you mentioned are safe.

I’m genuinely interested in the 3 areas you mention. Are you saying we have to be more careful in those areas? Why is that? What should we be watching for?  I’ve never had an issue in Vegas, but I am using the internet and staying in hotels considered a bit more “upscale” and secure. What is it specifically that we need to be aware of in Oklahoma? Thanks for anything that you can add. 

[marylander1940]

3 minutes ago, mtaabq said:

I’m genuinely interested in the 3 areas you mention. Are you saying we have to be more careful in those areas? Why is that? What should we be watching for?  I’ve never had an issue in Vegas, but I am using the internet and staying in hotels considered a bit more “upscale” and secure. What is it specifically that we need to be aware of in Oklahoma? Thanks for anything that you can add. 

I know plenty of folks who got arrested in Vegas!

in your place I simply wouldn't hire in those cities. 

 

[mtaabq]

15 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

I know plenty of folks who got arrested in Vegas!

in your place I simply wouldn't hire in those cities. 

 

All right. Well, that’s good to know. Thank you. 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

33 minutes ago, mtaabq said:

I’ve never had an issue in Vegas

Same here

[marylander1940]

20 minutes ago, mtaabq said:

All right. Well, that’s good to know. Thank you. 

an escort who contributes on here got arrested for prostitution in 2004. I know of other cases. 

 

7 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

Same here

It might be safe(r)for clients. I guess they usually arrest escorts. 

 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

On 8/7/2025 at 4:03 PM, Alchemy said:

But is it a worry for anyone...

From this thread:

 

Quote

"When you or he shows up for the appointment, immediately start with a long passionate kiss when the door is first opened. That SHOULD be enough to guarantee that the other person is not an undercover cop."

 

Edited August 11 by Vegas_Millennial

[mtaabq]

12 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

an escort who contributes on here got arrested for prostitution in 2004. I know of other cases. 

 

It might be safe(r)for clients. I guess they usually arrest escorts. 

 

Certainly, one has to be careful wherever one is planning to hire. My reason for asking about Vegas, Miami and Oklahoma was to learn if law enforcement was cracking down in those locations or if there was something with law enforcement specific to those locations of which we need to be aware. I agree with the member who suggested giving a passionate kiss when the provider arrives at your room; I’ve had providers reach for me and do just that. I probably haven’t been as careful as I should be so I’m trying to educate myself. 

[pubic_assistance]

2 hours ago, DMonDude said:

But your method isn't really any safer, sting operations wait till you make a deal verbally in person because they have to actually catch you red handed. So you're not actually lowering your chances much.

SO you think a detective is going to give me a massage and jerk me off, waiting to see if I discuss prostitution later ? 🤔

Edited August 11 by pubic_assistance
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