+ Twinkluvr Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) Had a great convo with a provider and realized if I was young and beautiful, I would totally want to cash in on it, but after hearing his experiences, I realized I do not have the capacity to do what he does. I don’t think I could ever fake well enough to have sex with someone I was not attracted to or even repulsed by. I suppose if I was desperate enough, I’d learn to smile and perform, but it would be really difficult. Hat tip to the great providers out there. Could you do it? (Of course, I’d sleep with me for free!) Edited March 10 by Twinkluvr Spiritualadvisor, + Just Sayin, marylander1940 and 1 other 3 1
Rudynate Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I believe providers have an enviable level of skill at managing their mindsets. + robear, + Pensant, pubic_assistance and 2 others 2 1 2
+ sync Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Any customer service profession having to deal with the general public all day and/or night, day in and day out is a bitch like none other. Lotus-eater, + Charlie, + Vegas_Millennial and 7 others 7 2 1
maninsoma Posted March 10 Posted March 10 5 hours ago, sync said: Any customer service profession having to deal with the general public all day and/or night, day in and day out is a bitch like none other. I agree. While it's true that different jobs require control of different responses (e.g., you don't need to be able to get an erection if you are a customer service agent working in a call center), escorting isn't the only job where one has to manage one's thoughts and emotions in order to perform the job well. + Charlie, pubic_assistance and Whippoorwill 1 1 1
marylander1940 Posted March 10 Posted March 10 6 hours ago, Twinkluvr said: Had a great convo with a provider and realized if I was young and beautiful, I would totally want to cash in on it, but after hearing his experiences, I realized I do not have the capacity to do what he does. I don’t think I could ever fake well enough to have sex with someone I was not attracted to or even repulsed by. I suppose if I was desperate enough, I’d learn to smile and perform, but it would be really difficult. Hat tip to the great providers out there. Could you do it? (Of course, I’d sleep with me for free!) Honest post! Thank you for sharing it! 6 hours ago, Rudynate said: I believe providers have an enviable level of skill at managing their mindsets. Exactly, not everyone is cut off for this job, is not only looks but state of mind, even with Viagra many just couldn't perform in a way that builds a clientele. pubic_assistance, + Charlie and + Just Sayin 2 1
sky Posted March 11 Posted March 11 10 hours ago, Twinkluvr said: Had a great convo with a provider and realized if I was young and beautiful, I would totally want to cash in on it, but after hearing his experiences, I realized I do not have the capacity to do what he does. I don’t think I could ever fake well enough to have sex with someone I was not attracted to or even repulsed by. I suppose if I was desperate enough, I’d learn to smile and perform, but it would be really difficult. Hat tip to the great providers out there. Could you do it? (Of course, I’d sleep with me for free!) Definitely couldn't do this job, beyond having to really perform I couldn't put myself through the risks they take. Beyond the sexual risks such as STDs there is also the risk of crazy clients. Also the fact that in their advertising they are typically leaving little to the imagination. I wouldn't want to put myself out there like that. pubic_assistance, marylander1940, ShortCutie7 and 2 others 1 2 2
+ Twinkluvr Posted March 11 Author Posted March 11 1 hour ago, sky said: Definitely couldn't do this job, beyond having to really perform I couldn't put myself through the risks they take. Beyond the sexual risks such as STDs there is also the risk of crazy clients. Also the fact that in their advertising they are typically leaving little to the imagination. I wouldn't want to put myself out there like that. Yeah, I suppose it’s like porn.. once ur out there on the internet, it’s there forever. + Charlie and + Pensant 1 1
sky Posted March 11 Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Twinkluvr said: Yeah, I suppose it’s like porn.. once ur out there on the internet, it’s there forever. It is porn, "live porn" that is. On the internet they are baring all or close to it and then when you see them typically there is engagement in some sort of sexual activity, whether they just strip for your enjoyment and you give them a handjob or more takes place. + Charlie 1
CuriousByNature Posted March 11 Posted March 11 In addition to the tremendous amount of focus and determination it must take to meet with clients who would not normally attract a provider, I also can't imagine how difficult it must be to meet up with someone you know nothing about. And to do this multiple times in a day or a week. The risk of disease can only be mitigated so far, and the risk to personal safety can probably increase quite suddenly with some clients. Then there's the societal stigma, the risk to interpersonal relationships with family and romantic partners, the stresses and costs of keeping oneself in tip-top condition, the expense of marketing oneself and travel, and the risk of income loss during unexpected crises like pandemics and recessions. I imagine the work is physically, emotionally, mentally and even spiritually draining. No work-place benefits or pensions, no protection through regulations in those places where the work is not legal or fully legal, and then there's also the relatively short term nature of this career path - given that everyone ages, and not everyone is able to navigate change and adapt and rebrand themselves accordingly. All in all, I can't think of many other careers that have the potential to bring so much happiness and fulfilment to the clients, and with such a high level of diverse risk for the providers. This is part of the reason why it really bothers me when providers are objectified and disrespected in this forum. Yes, there are those providers who evidently fall very short of the mark and it's good to warn others about them, but the number of people who are truly suited for this line of work is likely exceedingly small, and I would argue they should be seen and treated as the professionals they are. + sync, pubic_assistance, DGHou and 12 others 2 3 10
Jiminy Posted March 11 Posted March 11 I get carpal tunnel easily. I can barely use a broom. So no. That and.. I'm I'm not a fan of most people. Whippoorwill 1
+ Jamie21 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 11 hours ago, maninsoma said: e.g., you don't need to be able to get an erection if you are a customer service agent working in a call center) Although I’d imagine it helps to relieve the monotony? + Pensant, polythome, + sync and 5 others 8
Thelatin Posted March 11 Posted March 11 I’m sure some providers have things figured out, save for the future, are in school etc. But largely that has not been my experience. It’s sad how many have traveled and worked their tales off for years, with nothing to show for it. I’m not being rude, it’s honestly sad. It’s an extremely hard job, I don’t think I would survive the mental gymnastics. + DrownedBoy, + Pensant, pubic_assistance and 2 others 3 1 1
soloyo215 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 As a young man, I had opportunities and plenty of offers, but I declined. The reasons were several, ranging from the off-putting approach from some of the men who solicited me, to an immature sense of pride, feeling great about making it on my own without "shortcuts" (as I saw it then). I also used to have the belief that this profession is wrong and shouldn't exist. Today, I still believe that I made the right choice back then, but for different reasons. I also prefer to be on the side of the business where I am. I just want to enjoy the fruit of my decades of work, living and learning, maturing and prospering. pubic_assistance, Johnrom, marylander1940 and 1 other 2 2
ShortCutie7 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 I would never be able to do the job just due to the inherent danger on so many levels. That said, if I had the skill set (looks/body, assets, and ability to f*ck anything that moves), I would use it to get money differently- sleep my way to a great job, marry someone wealthy, etc. + Charlie, pubic_assistance and Johnrom 2 1
marylander1940 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 1 hour ago, soloyo215 said: As a young man, I had opportunities and plenty of offers, but I declined. The reasons were several, ranging from the off-putting approach from some of the men who solicited me, to an immature sense of pride, feeling great about making it on my own without "shortcuts" (as I saw it then). I also used to have the belief that this profession is wrong and shouldn't exist. Today, I still believe that I made the right choice back then, but for different reasons. I also prefer to be on the side of the business where I am. I just want to enjoy the fruit of my decades of work, living and learning, maturing and prospering. Which decade are we talking about? Do you ever regret not having taken at least some offers?
marylander1940 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 58 minutes ago, ShortCutie7 said: I would never be able to do the job just due to the inherent danger on so many levels. That said, if I had the skill set (looks/body, assets, and ability to f*ck anything that moves), I would use it to get money differently- sleep my way to a great job, marry someone wealthy, etc. becoming a "trophy husband" is a form of long term escorting. Danny-Darko, ShortCutie7, Simon Suraci and 3 others 1 2 1 2
Thelatin Posted March 11 Posted March 11 A guy I know became a trophy husband. After 30 years of not working. He is now, separated with no money, no work history and very expensive tastes… + Just Sayin, + sync, + DrownedBoy and 4 others 3 1 3
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted March 11 Posted March 11 2 hours ago, marylander1940 said: becoming a "trophy husband" is a form of long term escorting. But... Without the personal freedom + Charlie, pubic_assistance, ShortCutie7 and 2 others 1 3 1
Nightowl Posted March 11 Posted March 11 I used to think I could do it but quickly realized that there’s more to it than knowing your way around a penis. True therapeutic massage, which is what I would want to be able to do along with erotic, is physically grueling and the older I get, the less strength and stamina I have. Escorting would be out of the question since that would require a whole other set of social skills, including the ability to make scintillating conversation with men who may not be that interesting. + Charlie, pubic_assistance and Simon Suraci 2 1
LaffingBear Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Nope, couldn't do it. And not only because of the interpersonal customer service, faking attraction, etc. Although that would be a challenge. I don't have that hustle mentality. Things may stabilize once established, generating overnight and longer appointments. I wouldn't have made it past the early days when multiple one-hour appointments in one day may be required. Accurate or not, one of the things I always did when I was active was to try and chat with the rentguys about things other than our specific interaction. And the things I heard - no way I could put up with much of it. I couldn't deal with the uncertainty. Making plans, traveling to another city, incurring the cost of lodging etc, and then not generating enough business to cover costs. Nope! Things I heard/learned... more often than we'd expect, advance plans with first timers fall through. Guys are thinking with their crotch. Or, guys are very tempted, have good intentions at 6pm, but at 9pm, they lose their nerve. The reliance on the internet means there are plenty of scammers out there, including people who just get their jollies jerking the providers around. I'm a skeptical guy. Always approached this with a caveat emptor mindset. Had my share of scammers. But as I listened to providers, i came to learn it's just as tentative for them. And I know myself. If I flew to NYC, checked into a hotel, made some appointments, and had a bad run of one then another cancel or flake - i'd be unsuitable company for any remaining clients. Nope, no way I could do the job. + Charlie, Simon Suraci and pubic_assistance 2 1
ShortCutie7 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 4 hours ago, marylander1940 said: becoming a "trophy husband" is a form of long term escorting. Oh, absolutely! I didn’t mean explicitly being a “trophy husband”; I meant that it would take away the attraction component in choosing a spouse, so there would be some guaranteed wealth along with the money I would otherwise be making. + Charlie and pubic_assistance 2
Simon Suraci Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Escorting (and masseur work) is difficult, and not without great personal and professional sacrifices. It takes a special person and a rare combination of qualities to handle himself well and succeed. Very few people are willing and able to do it. Even fewer are good at it, and even fewer still will stick with it for any considerable length of time. Sure, you have quite a few duds flooding the market charging the same fees as experienced pros, and it’s frustrating having to weed through the bs. The pros are worth every cent of what they charge. Treasure them when you find them and don’t take them for granted. Treat them well and they will treat you well. + Vegas_Millennial, + Charlie, MaybeMaybeNot and 7 others 3 7
marylander1940 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 5 hours ago, ShortCutie7 said: I would never be able to do the job just due to the inherent danger on so many levels. That said, if I had the skill set (looks/body, assets, and ability to f*ck anything that moves), I would use it to get money differently- sleep my way to a great job, marry someone wealthy, etc. 38 minutes ago, ShortCutie7 said: Oh, absolutely! I didn’t mean explicitly being a “trophy husband”; I meant that it would take away the attraction component in choosing a spouse, so there would be some guaranteed wealth along with the money I would otherwise be making. I don't know why I thought it was implied.
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted March 11 Posted March 11 The few times I got paid for sex I wasn't advertising. Older men simply found me attractive and offered me dinner or theater tickets. I wouldn't do them for free; but, I would accept the offer of a nice dinner to let them plow my hole first. I always enjoyed it. It helps that I'm a horny slut by nature, but also that I like to make others feel good... Which is a key element to escorting. Once I was at naked pool party and a couple that I wasn't attracted to kept asking me if I would sleep with them. I declined; but, they kept asking. Finally, someone else at the party said "Offer him some money, and I'll bet he'll do it" to which I immediately replied "yes, I would!". They didn't offer to pay, because so many men have a hangup about paying for sex. But honestly, I would have slept with them for as little as $20 ($10 each). I just wouldn't sleep with them for free, out of principle (even a slut has his standards). 56harrisond, + Jamie21, polythome and 7 others 3 1 6
+ Charlie Posted March 11 Posted March 11 True confession: when I was a 21 year old graduate school student with very little money, I discovered that rentboys hung around in Philadelphia City Hall courtyard. (The Internet, personal computers and smart phones hadn't been invented yet.) I decided to try my luck selling my wares there, too. I dressed in what I thought showed off my best qualities without being outrageously obvious, and went there to hang out. After twenty minutes of lounging on a bench and giving questioning looks to every male who glanced at me, an older man sat down next to me and started a conversation. After a few minutes, he asked how much I charged. It suddenly occurred to me that I had no idea what the going rates were, so I said what sounded like a reasonable rate to me, not too much and not too little: $30. He seemed to think that was OK, so he said he lived in West Philly, and he suggested we go to his place. When we got there, he told me to get undressed. I was surprised, because I thought that rentboys never did anything but get their cocks sucked, but I did as he said. Then he got undressed, too, and there was nothing about him that aroused me sexually. He grabbed me and kissed me, and then offered his ass to me, but I couldn't get hard, so he started to suck it. I closed my eyes, and my cock immediately came to life as I fantasized that I was somewhere else with someone else, and shot in his mouth, which surprised him. He was obviously disappointed, since I didn't lose any time getting dressed again. After a very perfunctory conversation, he shoved a couple of bills in my hand and showed me the door. When I was a little way down the street, I took the bills out of my pocket, and they were two tens. I didn't blame him. That experience was what taught me that I was not suitable for the profession of sexual provider. MikeThomas, + FreshFluff, + Vegas_Millennial and 8 others 11
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