Clients don’t know their schedule?!

[+ DrownedBoy]

I'm a client and work for a living.

I've had providers - including a rather famous one - completely ignore that and bother me at work, trying to get me to change my appointment to during work.

Some providers don't have day jobs, and they're the worst.  It's if they have no conception of what a workplace is like.

[Ethan Woods]

1 hour ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

This is (part of) why I have been charging deposit and consultation. If someone just wants to “inquire”, I have a $20 (is that a bargain or what?) consultation that is needed to discuss. However, if someone just sends the deposit, that’ll leave the option open to book me whenever they figure it out.

However, I don’t have time to do this; like one escort described:

Now, if RentMen ever decided to start paying us $20 an hour to reply to messages…like a call center does, maybe people wouldn’t mind as much. Until then, who has the patience for that nonsense 🤷🏾‍♂️ 

This seems universal everywhere I go. I assume some of these are other providers looking to undercut my rates (extremely common in my home market). I’m not good enough to get a consulting fee, but I definitely understand why you charge one.

[Ethan Woods]

1 minute ago, DrownedBoy said:

I'm a client and work for a living.

I've had providers - including a rather famous one - completely ignore that and bother me at work, trying to get me to change my appointment to during work.

Some providers don't have day jobs, and they're the worst.  It's if they have no conception of what a workplace is like.

Congratulations on your “real job” 🙄 providers are not mind readers, if you can’t be bothered to provide your availability, you can’t resent us for not knowing. 

[ShortCutie7]

22 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

I'm a client and work for a living.

I've had providers - including a rather famous one - completely ignore that and bother me at work, trying to get me to change my appointment to during work.

Some providers don't have day jobs, and they're the worst.  It's if they have no conception of what a workplace is like.

FWIW I have several family members and friends who are retired from regular jobs yet still try to call me while I’m at work.  It’s like they magically forgot that people generally can’t have full phone conversations while they’re at work… or maybe their work environments allowed for that.

[pubic_assistance]

4 hours ago, Ethan Woods said:

Suppose the client is a married man, who isn't quite sure when he can discreetly get away from her for a couple hours (or might not get the opportunity until just a couple hours beforehand). How would you recommend a client set up such an appointment? 

That client needs to STOP cheating on his partner.

My wife knows exactly what I'm doing and when.

Open relationships mean open dialogue.

[soloyo215]

6 hours ago, Ethan Woods said:

It comes across as flaky most of the time. If you know you want to see me, you also know your schedule and the times that work best for you. Please provide those and allow the provider to choose the one that’s best for them.

Got it. Never saw it that way before.

[TallMuscl37]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

That client needs to STOP cheating on his partner.

That’s like telling every bathhouse, hookup app and RM site to only allow SINGLES to meet and mingle. It would be a project 2025 for real, for real 🤣 

[Guest]

As a client, I don't have many problems with this because most providers can't host, so I have them meet me at my hotel room after 3 PM, the checkin time for most hotels. The rare providers who can host seem to prefer after 12 PM, which works well with my schedule.

[Monarchy79]

The client could be looking for you to provide slots for him to adhere to.

 

easy solution:

 

Just give him times you are available and let him pick one. 

[Guest]

While i'm pretty flexible myself on timing and understand life happens, I generally tend to assume that if someone is asking me "when I'm available" and not offering up a date/time after hearing I'm around whenever that it's a yellow flag. Not necessarily red, but it sends me the message that there's something else not discussed yet or something going on where they're just getting off on talking to me. It comes across as non committal if one isn't careful.

 

I def should try the approach I've seen people mentioning of switching from a generic answer to specific dates and times though. 

[Whippoorwill]

My schedule is very erratic...every day is different. I like to get appointments locked in several days in advance, and then stick to them. I also see a small stable of regulars. I want them to be successful and stay in the business. I understand that they all have lives, other clients, other obligations, and they want to schedule their time efficiently just as I do. Typically I will send out a session request on Sunday, giving my availability during the week, and ask them to pick. They pick. I confirm. We have a date that works for each of us. 

On very, very rare occasions, either a provider or I have had another possible appointment come up, and we ask to reschedule. Since we each respect each other and understand we each have busy lives, it has always worked out.

Works like a charm. 

[TallMuscl37]

On 11/22/2024 at 4:36 PM, Whippoorwill said:

My schedule is very erratic...every day is different. I like to get appointments locked in several days in advance, and then stick to them.

 

Bravo.

I also just want to add: for clients WHO DO know their schedule, please make the effort to let the provider know within the first couple messages if you have anything else going on that time of day. Many people reach out on same day notice, which can be hard to get somewhere on a specific time frame. But even people who book ahead, often don’t mention other stuff they have planned.

2 people, who don’t know see each other often or even for the first time: usually have separate lives and may not even live in the same neighborhood: Communication about timing is key. Some clients tend to schedule other stuff too close to escort appointments. And I used to rush around and drop my plans to accommodate, but now: I don’t have that option because distance is a factor. I can drop what I’m doing, but I can’t lessen the amount of time it takes to drive 60-90 minutes away. And one $375 speeding ticket was enough (wasn’t client related, but still).
 

Sometimes it’s not an issue when I’m in “booking mode”, but everyday is not booking mode. Some days are get personal shit done in my life. And if I don’t know what to expect ahead, it’s just chancing a mutually good time and it ends up wasting both party’s expectations.

Edited November 24, 2024 by Jarrod_Uncut

[SometimesBi]

On 11/21/2024 at 3:36 PM, pubic_assistance said:

That client needs to STOP cheating on his partner.

My wife knows exactly what I'm doing and when.

Open relationships mean open dialogue.

But, the female partner cannot provide the anal (and prostate) stimulation in the way that the man enjoys. And sorry, no, a strap-on is not the same. So don't go there. 

[Ali Gator]

On 11/20/2024 at 8:57 PM, Ethan Woods said:

the issue is that I asked an open-ended question on purpose and they deflected. it’s THEIR appointment, that THEY should set according to THEIR preference. 

Would you call up a restaurant looking for a reservation “anytime” or do you throw out some options since you’re the customer?

When I call to make an appointment for a haircut (like I did yesterday), or call to make a doctor / dentist appointment, vet appointment, groomer appointment, or an appointment to service my car, they tell me what their next available appointment is - they never ask me what day / time I'm looking for, since it doesn't make a difference running their business. My availability really doesn't matter to them if they're booked.

I called yesterday for a haircut (same place I've been going for four years, same woman). I was hoping to get in before the holiday weekend and I admit it's my fault for calling later than I should. The woman who cuts my hair said (very professionally, which others may call curtly), "My next available is next Saturday at 11 am." I muttered something about hoping to get in before Thanksgiving, and she said "I'm all booked. Do you want next Saturday at 11 ? Otherwise I have the following Wednesday at 5..." 

I had to choose between those two, or I could start calling around looking for a new place to go, hoping they could accommodate me, check their pricing, etc. My availability and preferences had no importance to her - she was booked. So I took next Saturday. 

Same with providers - they should tell me their availability and if it works with my schedule, I'll book. If not, and I need a massage that week - I have two options:  Make their availability work into my schedule, or I'll check out other guys who may have been my alternate choices . My availability should be of no importance to the provider. 

[+ ApexNomad]

2 hours ago, Ali Gator said:

When I call to make an appointment for a haircut (like I did yesterday), or call to make a doctor / dentist appointment, vet appointment, groomer appointment, or an appointment to service my car, they tell me what their next available appointment is - they never ask me what day / time I'm looking for, since it doesn't make a difference running their business. My availability really doesn't matter to them if they're booked.

I called yesterday for a haircut (same place I've been going for four years, same woman). I was hoping to get in before the holiday weekend and I admit it's my fault for calling later than I should. The woman who cuts my hair said (very professionally, which others may call curtly), "My next available is next Saturday at 11 am." I muttered something about hoping to get in before Thanksgiving, and she said "I'm all booked. Do you want next Saturday at 11 ? Otherwise I have the following Wednesday at 5..." 

I had to choose between those two, or I could start calling around looking for a new place to go, hoping they could accommodate me, check their pricing, etc. My availability and preferences had no importance to her - she was booked. So I took next Saturday. 

Same with providers - they should tell me their availability and if it works with my schedule, I'll book. If not, and I need a massage that week - I have two options:  Make their availability work into my schedule, or I'll check out other guys who may have been my alternate choices . My availability should be of no importance to the provider. 

Well said! That’s absolutely true when dealing with someone new. For a new provider, I don’t expect my availability to matter—they’re running a business, and I either make their schedule work or I look elsewhere. But with regulars, it’s a different story. My regulars always work around my schedule—they make the time, no matter what. I don’t expect it, but they just do. That kind of consideration is one of the reasons I stay loyal to them. Always.

[Ali Gator]

4 minutes ago, ApexNomad said:

Well said! That’s absolutely true when dealing with someone new. For a new provider, I don’t expect my availability to matter—they’re running a business, and I either make their schedule work or I look elsewhere. But with regulars, it’s a different story. My regulars always work around my schedule—they make the time, no matter what. I don’t expect it, but they just do. That kind of consideration is one of the reasons I stay loyal to them. Always.

With regulars, I still ask what's best for them. If they work around my schedule, I appreciate. I also let the regulars know if they need to move me (especially the visiting guys), I can be flexible - I know they're probably trying to book 90 and 120 minute appointments as well as my one hour appointment, and I wouldn't want them to lose out.

[+ ApexNomad]

11 minutes ago, Ali Gator said:

With regulars, I still ask what's best for them. If they work around my schedule, I appreciate. I also let the regulars know if they need to move me (especially the visiting guys), I can be flexible - I know they're probably trying to book 90 and 120 minute appointments as well as my one hour appointment, and I wouldn't want them to lose out.

Yes, same. To clarify, I never expect my regulars to accommodate my schedule—ever. It’s quite the opposite. I’ll still ask what works best for them, but they insist on knowing what works for me. My schedule is all over the place. I’ll share my availability for the day I’m looking at, and they just make it happen.

[Ali Gator]

Just now, ApexNomad said:

Yes, same. To clarify, I never expect my regulars to accommodate my schedule—ever. It’s quite the opposite. I’ll still ask what works best for them, but they insist on knowing what works for me. My schedule is all over the place. I’ll share my availability for the day I’m looking at, and they just make it happen.

You sound like a smart business man, and run this as a business (as you should). Too many guys - especially the new ones - run it as a 'hobby'. Hard to build a clientele that way. 

[+ ApexNomad]

6 hours ago, Ali Gator said:

You sound like a smart business man, and run this as a business (as you should). Too many guys - especially the new ones - run it as a 'hobby'. Hard to build a clientele that way. 

I’m the client! I’m not a provider. But to your point, similarly, I view my transactions with providers strictly as a business. Keeps everything professional.

[ReynST]

I want say get a scheduling portal. But I have one and I still get regular availability inquiries 🤷🏾‍♂️

[Simon Suraci]

Welcome @Ethan Woods. Would you mind posting a link to your ad(s) in your signature? I’m sure everyone is eager to get to know you, especially @TallMuscl37 Something tells me your home market is a lot closer to his than anyone realizes just yet. Perhaps you will change hearts and minds together.

On 11/21/2024 at 11:05 AM, Ethan Woods said:

This seems universal everywhere I go. I assume some of these are other providers looking to undercut my rates (extremely common in my home market). I’m not good enough to get a consulting fee, but I definitely understand why you charge one.

Heads up to help everyone avoid confusion: @Jarrod_Uncut updated his handle to @TallMuscl37

Edited November 24, 2024 by Simon Suraci

[Vin Marco]

I know this is about scheduling but would someone please enlighten me on what in the heck a "consultation fee" is?  This and deposits,  It seems to me would be nothing short of KRYPTONITE to the actual point of sale 😬🫠

Edited November 24, 2024 by Vin Marco

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

2 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

Heads up to help everyone avoid confusion: @Jarrod_Uncut updated his handle to @TallMuscl37

Well, yes -- Since Doctor Dillamond had his own way of pronouncing my name, in solidarity, and to express my... uh... outrage... I will henceforward be known-- no longer as “Ga” linda... but as simply: “Glinda.”

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

On 11/21/2024 at 8:41 AM, SometimesBi said:

Suppose the client is a married man, who isn't quite sure when he can discreetly get away from her for a couple hours (or might not get the opportunity until just a couple hours beforehand). How would you recommend a client set up such an appointment? 

The problem here is "discreetly get away".  That's not a marriage, that's a prison sentence.  Sounds like this man should not be married if he has to lie to his partner.  Solution: Start the divorce proceedings first, then contact the provider with an available time between court hearings or after the divorce is final.

@pubic_assistance called it out perfectly.  You can be bisexual and married; but, you still owe it to your partner to be honest that you're having sex outside the relationship.

Edited November 24, 2024 by Vegas_Millennial

[TallMuscl37]

3 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

Welcome @Ethan Woods. Would you mind posting a link to your ad(s) in your signature? I’m sure everyone is eager to get to know you, especially @TallMuscl37 Something tells me your home market is a lot closer to his than anyone realizes just yet. Perhaps you will change hearts and minds together.

Heads up to help everyone avoid confusion: @Jarrod_Uncut updated his handle to @TallMuscl37

Thanks for acknowledging something I could have brung up myself. It’s not like I was trying to hide or cover anything up, otherwise I would have taken down my signature already. I have the option to change my screenname if I want to, for whatever reason I want to.

And who are you calling a sneaky little fucker? You need to check yourself because, because you’re going to end up on the wrong side of me: and that’s the bad side you don’t want to get on. So don’t even try it, Mister.

If you don’t like what I have to say here, go on about your business. I’m not here to have squabbles with other escorts. I was not addressing you anywhere here, so don’t try to bait me into a conflict that’s not needed. You’ve already did it once in another one of my threads, so please…do you.

 

1 hour ago, Vin Marco said:

I know this is about scheduling but would someone please enlighten me on what in the heck a "consultation fee" is?  This and deposits,  It seems to me would be nothing short of KRYPTONITE to the actual point of sale 😬🫠

Okay…

I’m going to say this in all fairness. I understand if you may have different ways of working or doing biz with people. However, when you use words like “kryptonite” to imply a person is harming themselves simply by having boundaries: that’s a bit problematic. 

And know, I’m not trying to disagree in a combative way. I’m just clarifying what you are asking. 
 

I’m just going to copy the same thing I posted in another thread…Becauae I addressed this with someone else, and I think your question falls into the same category: 

 

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3rd: I am not going to put aside my boundaries and screening, whether I’m fully booked or not. Some of the biggest mistakes I’ve made in the biz, have been when I was overly eager and accommodating to get a booking. I was dashing out booking hotels without deposits, doing trips without deposits: And then losing money on people who didn’t do the slightest bit of confirmation to ASSURE they were coming. I stopped being that stupid escort long time ago. Even though things aren’t as busy: a lot of other escorts are dealing with the same. Not everyone is fully booked, with SERIOUS clients. It doesn’t have a anything to do with being “restrictive”.

I’ve said before: the industry now has way more escorts than when I started in 2008. Yet there’s fewer good websites than there were. Because of that, things changed and I have had to adapt to sustain.
 

I’ve also stated before; the last draw for me was couple years ago in St. Louis: I went and booked a hotel room at the Sheraton, had TWO clients who contacted for same day notice. Neither one showed up. One cancelled the other ghosted. I couldn’t get my money back from the hotel, and I didn’t have anyone else lined up. 

And I’ll even add: the above story didn’t JUST happen in St. Louis. It happened in a handful of other cities, OVER THE YEARS as well. I was continuing to do things without deposits, however after Covid things seemed to have really got out of line and I had to just stop.

Regarding consultation fee? That’s easy one. I don’t do unannounced/cold phone calls or endless texts anymore. Escorts have mentioned this on their ad for years. I used to answer phone calls, talk to people over text back and forth and have nothing to show. And just like this story I posted from another person on another website:

Did that person get paid for any of those texts? No. But let’s say each of those people paid a $20 consultation fee. 50 x $20 = $1,000, theoretically. If the websites took the opportunity to normalize it, versus leaving us to filter all the inquiries. But that’s Kryptonite to you, how?

No, what’s kryptonite: is responding to all those texts, not getting paid, being constantly distracted from friends, work and family, and not having a thing to show for it: except another $80 to spend on a monthly gold membership. THAT: is kryptonite.

Edited November 24, 2024 by TallMuscl37