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It makes me wonder like, who all is really booking? RentMen has been quieter than ever. I keep the ad up for my reviews and advertising travels: but a recent browse thru my nearest major city area, there’s 50 guys advertising (17x 3 rows on Rent.Men) with the World Cup matches in town. And this is a place that has historically never really been that consistent in terms of bookings. A few years ago, that number was probably only around 10 or less on most days. So how is 500% more escorts doing any favors? It’s a fucking joke 🃏 Across the board: I feel most men browsing for sex aren’t actively seeking the paid sites as much. And in case someone thinks “the more escorts the better for the clients”, well there’s a caveat to that. If there’s dozens of options, would it make it harder to find the right one? If a client can’t keep up with all the options and just wants to contact a bunch and play on the phone, that can easily earn a bad rep down the line. And on a site with multiple options but no rates, how many times are clients having to text around and ask for prices? And without leaving the topic of prices: I understand some have their budget, but I’m having to turn down some bookings simply because they want something that is only going to break me even or less. Like I stated above, doubling up on clients when it’s already fewer to go around is more speculation than reality. So setting up an in-call session in a city an hour away from me or where hotels are running $100/$200 a night: $200-300 isn’t always going to cover the bases. And in case there’s any doubt: I’ve done the lower rates, made exceptions, etc: it doesn’t always mean more visits or more regulars. Also I want the idea that every advertiser is seeing multiple clients in a day to be understood. That is mostly the reality for masseur guys who tend to welcome higher volume but also have prices that may reel more people in. I personally don’t have the desire to see 4-5-6 dudes in one day, or cum so much that it hurts. Nor do I want to “withhold” cumming every time, because I have more clients to see that day. I’m been working towards a lower volume, more streamlined experience.

In a different regard: I know this post isn’t talking about the monetary side of it but: Often times I mention I have a 90 minute/2 hour minimum for travels. This is regardless if the client lasts for 30 minutes or less. Too often clients will say, “I probably will only last 30 minutes”. Well: I’m not charging for how long the sex lasts. By the time I commute, chat, shower, maybe have a drink (maybe not in that order) it’s easy for an hour or more to go by.

Right. I’ve often had to turn down same day appointments, because I may have already had 1 person booked in advance for that day. People think getting clients is easy peasy but it’s not always. Often it can be a lot of waiting and sorting out schedules. Some may have easier access due to rates/location and take on more bookings. But having guys coming and going is becoming harder, especially with this new age of hookup apps where people like to spend time looking for hookups, but don’t want to make much effort to make it happen.

In this regard, that is the oft assumed idea. However not everybody is high volume or even takes on multiple clients. Also there’s no promise of picking a particular time that may be fewer or more clients than another. I simply list my available hours (3 pm to midnight for outcalls or Noon to Midnight for Outcalls) but it doesn’t mean I’m seeing clients back to back during that time. That’s just a window of time I’m available during, in which I often may only schedule 1 client in a day, sometimes 2. But I’m rarely taking 3-4 or more in a day.

It can be, but I’m very experienced/took DD a few times for driving. Usually in bad weather I pass people who have wound up in the ditch, wondering if they know you can’t drive 70/80 in the snow/heavy downpour. However the bigger problem with some travel visits, so many are on limited availability. I have had to update all my ads to 24 hours/Next day notice. Even that isn’t always enough notice for every city. Some visits I haven’t made plans to visit, but I’m open to coordinate something. But if they’re only in town for 1 night, it won’t leave room to make something happen I decided anywhere more than 30 min. to an hour drive, I’m just going to start adding from $50-$100 depending on how far. That may not fully cover the expenses, but with my current rates between $250-$450 it still makes a difference. I’m just trying not to be greedy because it’s already a lot of guys out there who don’t care: don’t want to send deposits, don’t want to pay more than $200, won’t give any extra tip for traveling etc. Like Tyger said, this is an intimate business YES: and people need to recognize in order for us to perform our best we need to also be getting paid fairly without animosity. These guys have 100s and thousands of dollars in their accounts, and be trying to get by with giving us $300. I desire to earn $500/$1,000+ sometimes.

Reminds me of the Aretha song. People tend to tailor the lyrics to whatever it means to them: 🎶 ride your ass, on a pink 👅 Cadillac 🎶 lol

Right! Traveling 30 miles isn’t the type of driving I’m suggesting extra for. To me, that’s just the local area. Granted, traffic can make 30 miles take 2 hours in a place like D.C., San Francisco etc. but that can often be mitigated by planning meets after 7/8 p.m. The RentMen/Masseur sites let us post nearby travel cities up to 4 hours or 300 miles away. It’s great for getting exposure in other areas, especially if the city one lives is not active (and I hate running my ad solely in my local area, getting no hits for days after I just paid $100+ to post). It just has to be more widely and better understood, I can’t just keep doing it at my rate alone and not getting extra incentive added for the commutes.

Well the post did ask, “any horror stories?”. So while some were cyber-sexing with their tongue, it still is something to consider overall. That’s easier than someone coming on to say, “I couldn’t see in the dark, and got a mouthful of shit 🤣 “ And many “health experts” say that it’s better to rim the outside where it’s cleaner and less risk, than to go deeper in. I rather put my ☝and 🍌 deep, not my tongue 🤣 Of course and don’t get me wrong, I like to eat and get ate. I’m definitely no stranger to that 😝 It’s just all the reason more guys who are getting ate are conscious of the partner who’s going down on them. I do recall some years ago, one of my FWB/ex BFs went down to near Mexico, in Texas. I remember him saying something about him feeling off after eating some food down there, but not sick per se. Well he came to town and we “played around”, but then I got like actual sick for like 2 weeks and had to go to doctor twice. It didn’t bother him as much, but for me I wound up having to take 10 days of antibiotics. So it’s especially important if anyone is camping, sex parties, traveling overseas, etc. to double down on probiotics and gut cleansing. What may not bother 1 person may mean a trip to the doctor for another.

Well that’s the key points you made: RM sites don’t list those options. And going back to my pic above of the C&B site, notice that person has multiple rates shown (which I will say is probably more than what most of the M4M market are willing to spend). But just because they don’t give us that option, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be possible. At the end of the day, RM is just an advertising platform. They always say, “we’re not an agency so we can’t tell you what to charge/how to price yourself etc”. So it’s really up to us to figure it out. And that’s also why with minimum time lengths, it could help better offset versus just having extra for travel. But they have to be willing to do that, because if they only book an hour: Then I am going to feel compelled to add extra to the price, if my commute time is 2-3 hours. Also question for @Tygerscent: if someone reached out to you and said, “are you in available in Spokane or Yakima today/tomorrow”, how much you’d be charging for that? Would there a minimum session amount you’d ask? I know you mentioned locations that sounded like it’s within an hour away, but that’s different than what I’m referring to. The above is within the same general metro area. But something like the one below? You’re going outside of the area. Not to mention possible weather conditions/traffic etc. You wouldn’t ask extra or have a time minimum for that? The above you can probably do within a day, but if someone reaches and asks to go to Spokane, that’s likely an overnight stay: How long would you charge to do that trip, or would you go there, stay for a couple days and assume to book more clients? If it’s short notice, maybe you won’t have time to line people up. That’s where the tricky part can be. For me, I’ll normally only go to those further cities on my way to/from another area…Like when I did the drive to Seattle a few years ago: I stopped in Salt Lake and Idaho for a couple/few days each. And then I went from Seattle to San Fran and stopped in Portland and Redding California. Thankyou, glad you noticed. But I’ll tell you one thing, in my experience MOST clients never want to travel a few miles outside of their neighborhood. Let alone the next city/state over. Anytime I’ve asked a client to come to my area, it’s “too far”. I have one client who will travel from his town 2 hours away to the Capitol city where I stay when I visit, but that’s the furthest he’ll go and even that has to usually be on his timing. That’s why I said, don’t make it seem like I’m asking too much for extra $50-$100 to offset travel, when many clients won’t even go more than 1 county out of their way. Which is understandable, they don’t want to go out their comfort zone: but I don’t want to be underpaid in the process.

Son, it’s 2026. I have been in the industry for long enough to realize it takes boundaries, and a willingness to turn down some requests. Everybody isn’t going to say yes. And not everybody is worth saying yes to. And traveling for 3-4 hours and not getting an extra $50/$100, doesn’t sound like a yes always. Admit it, you wouldn’t want to do it either if it was you. And don’t lie, because I already know. I’ve spent a lot of my earlier years, traveling for sessions that weren’t even $300. However the difference then was it was a bit more possible to fit in 2-3 clients a day, from Craigslist, adam4adam, Backpage, Men4Rent, Rentboy, RentMen, HourBoy, maybe even Gay.com. So $250 seemed fine when I knew I could get several folks showing up. Now: we have like 2-3 main sites. Many cities on the site are becoming saturated with providers, or on the contrary: some of these guys don’t even know where to find us. I have to occasionally run mock ads on hookup apps in some cities, simply because I don’t get enough hits from my main paid sites. And the RentMen non logged in version just looks like another version of Grindr. People go to waste time, they have no information or understanding about prices. I have needed to create my own website and domain name, just to advocate for fair rates and to get away from the one price assumption. And you think I’m being too extra? Cowboys4Angels (for the straight women) are asking way more than $50-$100 for travel: And whether it’s “real” or not is irrelevant, but it goes to show this 1 hour rate “default” should cover everything including travel and booking hotels to host clients, needs to die and get out of gay escort vocabulary. I’m tired of putting big effort for small returns.

I can recognize that perspective, and I’ve also done the travel thing for awhile as well. However I think it’s more of personal preference that you may be comfortable doing. I’ve been out to Seattle and Oregon myself, so I know how it is. But considering gas out there tends to consistently run $5/Gal: I would definitely feel compelled. Albeit, when I was out there, I wasn’t charging extra either but I also wasn’t having to drive more than an hour away. I know often times with talking with other providers, there’s a lot of personal differences in risk/overhead discussions. Some people will say, “go take that risk”, whereas others will say “don’t sell yourself short” (not verbatim but of that difference). At end of the day it is what it is for each individual. However, I get the intimacy part: But I don’t think that’s an excuse for everyone to not have at-least some kind of agreement for travels over an hour, or over 2 hours. Also take into account, not all clients treat escorts the same. I won’t yet go down the rabbit hole of factors that involves, but I’ll give an example of something I did last month: that I ended up kinda feeling unappreciated on: I drove out to a town known for recreation/Springs. I met my client there, everything was cool. But it took over 6 hours to get to his place from where I reside. Now: I did have aspirations to take clients in the nearby major city, but he only gave me my donation for the session. He offered to have me stay the night, but then the next morning 8 a.m., he had to be on his way, and so did I. So it’s like damn, I did all that only to be inconvenienced and rushed out the next morning? What made it so bad was, he was only going to be away for a couple hours. It’s that kind of cumulative disregard for the effort that is driving me to stop doing these travels for no extra money. Sure I stayed in town and took other clients, but I stayed for 2 nights and only had 2 more clients in the area. I would have had a 3rd, but his schedule was so limited, and he wanted me to provide the accommodations to host at time too early to check in.

Hate to break up the “fun” but, although no horror stories per se: I have come across some where I’m just like, ah no…I’m not putting my mouth let alone tongue, down there. I usually do a finger test first, and if there’s any hint of 🫏, it’s a no go 🤣 Also people should keep in mind; Infections you might contract via the fecal-oral route include:23 Amoebiasis E. coli Cryptosporidiosis Shigellosis Giardiasis Helminths (intestinal worms) Hepatitis A Hepatitis B Hepatitis E Molluscum contagiosum Salmonella Bacterial and viral STIs can also be passed through rimming. Some are transmitted through the fecal-oral route, while others are passed through open sores or simple skin-to-skin contact. https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-is-rimming-5085084 But of course, don’t let it scare ya lol. However, if anyone is out eating ass on the regular or even occasional: all need to ensure to have some kind of anti-parasite extract and probiotics on hand that includes ingredients like: I personally don’t go down on everybody I meet. I’ve had situations where the next day after rimming, I’ve felt sick and had to take the above supplement and/or something in addition. If and when I do, the ass regime has to be on point 🧼 🚿

Here’s the thing: many people don’t even read the full ad to begin with. So even when I do specify certain differences, it doesn’t always get noticed. I had a client today get dismissive over my deposit asking; meanwhile it’s plain and clear in both my RentMasseur ad and website about my deposit requirements. I’ve also written to RentMasseur stating; despite having several options for massage types; there’s only incall and outcall fee. But “outcall” may only include the local metro area. Not a city in the 4 hour “nearby travel city range” away, or even other travel cities that are further than that. Also as I’ve mentioned; traveling isn’t just a convenient or “fun” thing to do. Even if I’m willing, at times it’s a necessity. Many big cities escort markets, are becoming more ran thru than a GoodWill clothing aisle. They are fucked to oblivion. I went to Orlando couple months ago: I only met new clients in other surrounding towns. It was only 1 person visiting me regularly. The World Cup in Kansas City hasn’t even brought me any new interest in the area. It’s still the same people, doing the same shit. I do like the traveling to other towns and cities but, I can’t just keep doing it for 1 hour sessions with no extra. (Like I’m sure pilots “like” to fly, but they also enjoy the $80,000+). And to do these type of trips, I’m often setting aside whole afternoons and evenings at minimum. Often a 4 hour trip, amounts to 2 days of packing/traveling/staying/and unpacking when I get home. I visit a client in Wichita occasionally: I usually have to set aside 2 days because it’s too far to go there and back in the same day. So I often end up being away from home for a night or 2 at least. That sounds great, but I hate to say it that these guys: even though they are paying, lot of them don’t have the inclination to pay much more than what the rate is. They see an outcall price, or see an in-call price and think “that’s it”. And trust me, I’ve tried to push longer sessions but it doesn’t always get agreed to. So I’m like fuck it. If people don’t want to book me for longer sessions, I’m just going to have to start adding travel/out of town pricing. I’ve raised my rates by $75-$100 since the end of Covid. That has helped cover a bit more of the overheads I incur, but I’m doing travel to some areas that are 5-6-8 hours away and not always getting extra to cover travel. Sure I can go and take on more clients to build up more funds, but even that takes more money to do. Extra money to host, book a hotel for a couple days etc. Some people may have lower prices and take on more volume but: I’m also not trying to over exert myself in the process. What torture do you imply? Also you may have been a salaried employee. Maybe not but you had an income that was fairly consistent as it sounds? So I don’t get the fuss and disagreement about a provider who is offering the convenience of traveling to clients, it’s not designed to be torture. Just recognition that “shipping and handling” does apply to us in the same way any other product would.

Right, just wish I knew before it involved a trip to Best Buy clear across town lol.

The tactic is annoying as fuck. The only way I found to avoid it: don’t post your phone number as “public”, and only do for registered users. The system will usually filter out fake bot accounts before they can actually contact you directly. The caveat to that is, less clients may be able to reach you because not everybody is signed up as a client to see phone numbers. I’ve gone back to leaving my number public because I have 2 phones to help. But it’s annoying everytime it happens. Another example of why there needs to be a better system in place. This does remind me of couple months ago when I was in Florida, I saved a client from a $2,000 scam in which the “executive chief officer” of APPLE/CHASE BANK claimed to call him, along with the FBI, saying his account was hacked and that he needed to go to Best Buy (poor company, being the target of scams lol) with his laptop to have them clear the lock. I drove him to Best Buy 20 minutes away, and he got there and they asked for 4 separate $2,000 gift cards. He tried to buy it, but Best Buy said there was a limit. When he came out and told me that (all the while on the phone with the scammers, who sounded like from India): I told him HANG UP THE PHONE NOW. And let’s go to Chase Bank to speak to someone. They were trying to get him to not tell me all the details, but had I known I would have immediately told him hangup, block the number and contact the # of the customer service for Apple and Chase. (it was one of those fake, “your account is hacked emails from “Apple” and he opening it, called them etc etc) Turns out, his account was never hacked. But he almost brought and sent $2,000 of gift cards. I took him to Chase Bank because he was recently in an accident with his regular car (But in Florida a golf cart is kinda like a car lol). He ended up thanking me with dinner, a bottle of wine and an evening session. I was like damn, sometimes we can really do good for people that they don’t know we can do.