Tissue Paper

[Vulgarii]

If you noticed bits or full sheets of toilet paper stuck to a client's, or provider's, butt crack, what would you do? Politely joke about it and offer them a warm shower? 

This has happened to me too many times and usually with clients at hotels. They had plenty of time to just rinse off while I was on my way or told them I was looking for parking.

8 times out of 10 they will have that awful ripe, melted Hershey's milk chocolate smell, and 99.9% of them will hit on me and expect some erotic play.

Even if you wiped over and over without any trace, how do people not have any consideration and think that we can't smell what when on down there? But if I say something or have a problem then I'm difficult, I'm the b!tch.

 

With the pigplay and other gross fetishes becoming more popular these days, I'm starting to wonder if some men do it on purpose. One regular client literally wiped his ass with one of my towels. I was livid and raised Hell when I found out, and I got a box of towels delivered from Amazon later that day.

Edited April 7 by Vulgarii
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[cany10011]

One of my biggest pet peeves too. I usually insist on showering together for this reason. I don't feel I get my $ worth if the escort is not fully prepared for all the eventualities. 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

As a client, I would be SO horrified to be anything less than spotlessly hygienic and fresh-smelling. A provider is well within his right to suggest a client rinse off if that's false. 

Do you see a correlation between closeted or married men and the lack of hygiene? 

[Monarchy79]

I consider proper hygiene to be a moral, social and spiritual obligation. 

If anyone (client, provider, hookup), presents themselves to you in an extremely unhygienic manner, consider it an act of disrespect and end the encounter. No discussion, no suggestions to take a shower and no sensitivities about it. 

No grown man should be walking around with toilet paper stuck to his improperly-wiped butt crack. Nor should he have dingleberries or skids. He knows of his activities throughout the day and knows that he should take care of ALL of that before meeting up with anyone. This means that soap, suds and water must be scrubbed and rinsed thoroughly through your body before any and every encounter. 

Period.

 

 

[Simon Suraci]

Some clients are completely oblivious. I even wipe some of them, without saying anything. They still show up in similar condition the next time. I don’t do any butt play when that’s the case. Until they start complaining about a lack of attention down there, I see no need to make a big deal of it. I am embarrassed FOR them, but I know they are just completely out of touch with their bodies and how these things work. If they DO communicate they want attention there, I will bring it up.

[Monarchy79]

5 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said:

Some clients are completely oblivious. I even wipe some of them, without saying anything. 

Oblivious? Or just casually inconsiderate? 
 

[Monarchy79]

13 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said:

I am embarrassed FOR them, but I know they are just completely out of touch with their bodies and how these things work. 

These are men who have the means of paying hundreds of dollars for your time. They are definitely in touch with their bodies. They are also definitely in touch with their extreme social ineptitude. 
 

Ill bet you that if a provider decided not to wipe and put his toilet-tissue-stuffed butt in the clients’ face, not only would he be suddenly “aware” of such matters, but he’d complain about it vehemently too. 

This lack of social respect goes beyond this level of personal service too. I’ve seen numerous Reddit threads where professional waxers and doctors have encountered filthy people who know they are about to receive a service in very “personal” areas, and will show up disgustingly unclean. 
 

You owe people who present themselves like this no empathy. You don’t have to be rude, but you don’t have to coddle them or comfort them either. Please use your right to refuse service. 
 

 

Edited April 7 by Monarchy79

[Jamie21]

There’s really no excuse for it. Have a shower beforehand. In my experience though it’s rare. I can think of a few times clients haven’t been clean and I’ve simply not gone anywhere near their bum (even after discreetly wiping them). 

 

[ShortCutie7]

3 hours ago, Monarchy79 said:

These are men who have the means of paying hundreds of dollars for your time. They are definitely in touch with their bodies. They are also definitely in touch with their extreme social ineptitude. 
 

I agree with your sentiment, but I think you’re greatly overestimating the self-awareness of the average man.  There’s also no correlation between money and cleanliness (with the exception of obvious examples such as homeless people).

[TruHart1]

7 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

As a client, I would be SO horrified to be anything less than spotlessly hygienic and fresh-smelling. A provider is well within his right to suggest a client rinse off if that's false. 

Do you see a correlation between closeted or married men and the lack of hygiene? 

I went through a “closeted married man” period a number of years ago and to a man, none of them ever even had an inkling of how to clean up down there! I thought the idea of rimming was disgusting!

Fast forward a few years to my first escort hire and suddenly I found he not only was clean down there, but squeaky clean! I have found that to be true with nearly every escort I’ve met since, and have become addicted to “eating out,” now one of my favorite pastimes!!!

TruHart1 😎

[soloyo215]

The topic of hygiene has come up in the past. Like others have mentioned, I too make sure that I am at my best in terms of bein presentable for the provider. Not only do I care that the provider feels comfortable, but it's just basic to have good hygiene.

As I mentioned in other posts, the reality is that some men never learned to properly wipe their own butts. It's just reality. I remember in another post, was about massages, a client noticed that the provider had dude wipes available. I'm not a provider, but some of the ones I know have mentioned that some clients might not show up at their best in terms of cleanness, although that doesn't necessarily mean that they have poor hygiene.

12 hours ago, Vulgarii said:

With the pigplay and other gross fetishes becoming more popular these days, I'm starting to wonder if some men do it on purpose. One regular client literally wiped his ass with one of my towels. I was livid and raised Hell when I found out, and I got a box of towels delivered from Amazon later that day.

I do not think it's on purpose, at least I don't think doing that on purpose is the norm. I woundn't call fetishes "gross", at least the fetish people I know are the cleanest, neatest people I've ever known. Having a fetish doesn't mean that you run your house and maintain your body that way. I'd just call your client and asshole for doing that to your towel.

[jmichaeliii]

7 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

As a client, I would be SO horrified to be anything less than spotlessly hygienic and fresh-smelling. A provider is well within his right to suggest a client rinse off if that's false. 

Do you see a correlation between closeted or married men and the lack of hygiene? 

I am so OCD about being clean for a provider.   It would be mortifying to me to be anything but.  And I am a closeted married man.

[Thelatin]

Oh my.  I always use my shower douche before meeting for a massage.  I have a couple of regular providers who know I'm always clean, so they don't have to worry about adding some prostate massage etc.  Well worth the extra effort.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

14 hours ago, jmichaeliii said:

I am so OCD about being clean for a provider.   It would be mortifying to me to be anything but.  And I am a closeted married man.

I'm sure lots of bi or closeted guys are squeaky clean, but there is at least a lot of cultural conversation about how "straight" men are not good at being clean in their butt. For me, I tend to avoid ass play with any guy who isn't vers or a bottom. Because I've seen even lifelong gay tops be bad at anal hygiene. 

[+ APPLE1]

I consider myself incredibly pragmatic. So:

1) I am very comfortable with the fact that the digestive system is one long tube, and whatever goes in the top comes out the bottom. 🤷🏻 

2) While I may not want to injest shit, or have it over flowing everywhere, I recognized long ago that if my sexual proclivities included the insides of assholes, at some point, shit will be present. 🤷🏻 

3) I learned long ago that sheets, towels, fingers, hands, and penises, along with many other things, are all washable. 🤷🏻 

4) I couldn't imagine being in a relationship and having to have he conversation, "hey hon, I am horney. Could you go clean out so a few hours from now we can have sex?" 🤷🏻 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Hasn't happened in awhile, but if a guy needs to shower, I tell them to shower. 

I'm not precious about it. 

That's the kind of shit a grown adult should know to do before meeting up. 

[yessiree48]

Holy hell as a younger guy that’s relatively new to this hobby, I can’t believe this is a thing with clients.  I guess because I always imagined escort clients to be the well-groomed executive types due to movies and pop culture.  I always make sure I’m trimmed and clean all over before any hookup, let alone massage/session

 

You providers have my sympathy

[+ APPLE1]

8 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

I'm not precious about it. 

Kudos to anyone here who exhibits non-precious behavior about anything!

[Monarchy79]

8 hours ago, yessiree48 said:

Holy hell as a younger guy that’s relatively new to this hobby, I can’t believe this is a thing with clients.  I guess because I always imagined escort clients to be the well-groomed executive types due to movies and pop culture.  I always make sure I’m trimmed and clean all over before any hookup, let alone massage/session

 

You providers have my sympathy

But it’s not just providers who experience this….

In the general dating world, hygiene is a major     topic of angst, in all genders, across the spectrum of sexual orientations. 
 

 

 

[Monarchy79]

16 hours ago, APPLE1 said:

I consider myself incredibly pragmatic. So:

1) I am very comfortable with the fact that the digestive system is one long tube, and whatever goes in the top comes out the bottom. 🤷🏻 

2) While I may not want to injest shit, or have it over flowing everywhere, I recognized long ago that if my sexual proclivities included the insides of assholes, at some point, shit will be present. 🤷🏻 

3) I learned long ago that sheets, towels, fingers, hands, and penises, along with many other things, are all washable. 🤷🏻 

4) I couldn't imagine being in a relationship and having to have he conversation, "hey hon, I am horney. Could you go clean out so a few hours from now we can have sex?" 🤷🏻 

I think that what  you’re referring to is not exactly the issue here. We’re not talking about the practices or judgments on douching before sex. We’re talking about some mens’ inability to wipe and wash their butts. We’re talkin’ base-level here…. 

In many cases, masseurs and massage therapists cannot give a thorough massage because the client has skids, tissue paper and dingleberries from his un-wiped butt. 
 

 

[+ APPLE1]

1 hour ago, Monarchy79 said:

I think that what  you’re referring to is not exactly the issue here. We’re not talking about the practices or judgments on douching before sex. We’re talking about some mens’ inability to wipe and wash their butts. We’re talkin’ base-level here…. 

In many cases, masseurs and massage therapists cannot give a thorough massage because the client has skids, tissue paper and dingleberries from his un-wiped butt. 
 

 

I certainly understand the difference between douching and wiping well. And I both practice and expect the thorough wipe!

I attempted to make that distinction when I referred to "insides of assholes." While I questioned if some comments were referring to exterior, or interior, or both, once the topic of douching was definitively introduced, I thought my comment definitely had  relevancy.

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[+ DrownedBoy]

I can't even imagine, as a EDIT client, being that unclean.

Before I see an escort, I always take a shower and specifically make sure my posterior is clean, even though I don't bottom for escorts. I also make sure to brush my teeth and use mouthwash when the provider arrives, and actually keep mouthwash out in case my mouth gets dry.

A person who doesn't keep themselves clean lacks self-respect and/or basic manners. I know some men (especially older men) can be careless about this. They probably figure that since they're paying, they don't need to be considerate to providers or masseurs.

Edited April 10 by DrownedBoy

[caramelsub]

I like to rim providers with nice butts. I’ve had to ask providers to shower before rimming them. Or sometimes they would tell me they need to shower first before getting rimmed. So I guess it goes both ways.

[+ Charlie]

If anyone decides this topic is worthy of a photo gallery, I won't be watching.

[Monarchy79]

2 minutes ago, Charlie said:

If anyone decides this topic is worthy of a photo gallery, I won't be watching.

That photo gallery would definitively belong in the “niche”, area of the Fetish Forum…. LOL