newdad Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) How common is it for providers to use that when the client is a bottom? Edited January 2 by newdad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot4latin Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 How would you even know? 🤔 liubit, EastbayMike, pubic_assistance and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liubit Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I couldn’t care less if they are using Viagra, Cialis, Trimix, or any other drug for ED. If that is what they need to perform, it is none of my business. soloyo215, MikeBiDude, + Pensant and 17 others 6 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DynamicUno Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I don't see why I would need to feel any kind of way as long as using the ED drug isn't affecting the session. Moke, Simon Suraci, pubic_assistance and 7 others 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blck37 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 3 hours ago, Hot4latin said: How would you even know? 🤔 This comment. one do wonder indeed, how? And why would a client care? Surely client should be under no illusion that said provider want to fck him out of sheer physical attraction? Yes I know there be some connection there but if we were to take $$$ out of the equation, is there any providers out there who would invalountary (for free and not as a matter of 'appreciating long term client' or 'business strategy') hv sex with their client? Being friendly (as in hang outs or texting) is very possible, but to hv sex........? And I am not talking down 'clients' here, just being rationale. Danny-Darko, MikeBiDude, + Pensant and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becket Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Suits me just fine. I appreciate the provider making the effort for me of being more sure of his ability to perform. Besides, chemistry between two guys is always a big issue. Perhaps he's really not into me and needs a little extra help to make my experience better. Great, no problem. Doesn't hurt my feelings and really shouldn't hurt yours. Danny-Darko, TruHart1, liubit and 6 others 2 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Even if he was into me I’d assume if he had other clients that day or with any life issues that can get in the way he may have difficulty performing. That would suck (and I wouldn’t be able to) if on my dime. And with generics now seemingly available from every corner deli, I would assume a real life boyfriend experience would include him taking one anyway Becket 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ robear Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Have to agree with the "how would you know"s, except perhaps a Trimix injection would happen at the time of the meet. In any case, it would say to me the gentleman of the hour is thoughtful and deliberate about providing his best experience to me as a client. I'd count that very much a plus, this site abounds with stories of indifferent providers just looking for quick cash. + José Soplanucas, liubit, Dolman and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soloyo215 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 9 hours ago, newdad said: How common is it for providers to use that when the client is a bottom? No different than clients who do the same. What's wrong with using Viagra (I'm asking for a friend)? Simon Suraci and liubit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 9 hours ago, newdad said: How common is it for providers to use that when the client is a bottom? Considering most providers wouldn't fuck you if you weren't paying them, it's a good assumption that more than a few need some help keeping it up. That said....no one could possibly know how many as no one is going to announce their performamce limitations. liubit, Danny-Darko, BaronArtz and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookingAround Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 It’s such a “who cares?” Issue that I can’t help but ask what’s behind the question? That is, why are you even asking? What’s motivating you to ask? Simon Suraci, blck37, Danny-Darko and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokomaru Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Maybe OP wants to feel loved. “He can get hard with me naturally, no need for help.” 😂 I strongly prefer that any top I’m with use ED drugs. The difference between mostly hard and 100% rock hard is like night and day, in terms of how it feels for the bottom. MikeBiDude, traveling, Dolman and 3 others 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloKyle Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Would you rather have a provider show up with a limp dick? As long as it's hard that's all that matters. TorontoDrew, MikeBiDude, JourneysEnd and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Bokomaru said: Maybe OP wants to feel loved. “He can get hard with me naturally, no need for help. agree. this seems to be the continuing self-inflicted mindfuck that some clients appear to be fixated on. They want to feel “desired” by the provider, whom they are paying for their company. Thus, the comments here & there “I don’t need to pay for it” - meaning I’m still desirable. “paying for it” has no correlation to being desirable or not. It’s about convenience & getting exactly what you want & when you want it. ever notice how many super famous celebrities prefer paid for companionship? It’s not for lack of options re: providers using whatever to enhance their performance - it’s the same thing as if I have surgery scheduled and the doctor needs his glasses to see. some of the things clients get in their heads about providers never ceases to surprise me - those guys have a very difficult job just dealing with the clients mental state & expectations Edited January 2 by SouthOfTheBorder MikeBiDude, Danny-Darko, liubit and 5 others 2 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blck37 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 27 minutes ago, Bokomaru said: Maybe OP wants to feel loved. “He can get hard with me naturally, no need for help.” 😂 I strongly prefer that any top I’m with use ED drugs. The difference between mostly hard and 100% rock hard is like night and day, in terms of how it feels for the bottom. Oh dear what a difference that is 😛 Rod Hagen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blck37 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 7 minutes ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: agree. this seems to be the continuing self-inflicted mindfuck that some clients appear to be fixated on. They want to feel “desired” by the provider, whom they are paying for their company. Thus, the comments here & there “I don’t need to pay for it” - meaning I’m still desirable. “paying for it” has no correlation to being desirable or not. It’s about convenience & getting exactly what you want & when you want it. ever notice how many super famous celebrities prefer paid for companionship? It’s not for lack of options Been there, not a pretty place. Great lesson for self mental space but deff wouldnt rec'. pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blck37 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Even porn stars, with them hot film partner to play with, more often than not are also taking pill to ensure top performance..... Danny-Darko and liubit 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Hagen Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) Nearly every actor in every porno made after someone invented ED-medication is using ED medication during the filming. If, in interviews or in-person, they say they never do in their movies, they are lying. (simply compare erections in a 1976 porno to those in a 2016 porno for verification). Given that what I've said about pornstars "doping" :-) is true, there is no reason to ever feel at all bad about anyone using ED medication when they are with you. Edited January 2 by Rod Hagen pubic_assistance, liubit and Danny-Darko 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamizzonNYC Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 This is between a man and his own penis. Full stop. + glutes, rvwnsd, LookingAround and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Why should it matter or concern you, as long as the provider delivers the desired experience you are looking for? MikeBiDude, pubic_assistance, TruHart1 and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thique Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: agree. this seems to be the continuing self-inflicted mindfuck that some clients appear to be fixated on. They want to feel “desired” by the provider, whom they are paying for their company. Thus, the comments here & there “I don’t need to pay for it” - meaning I’m still desirable. “paying for it” has no correlation to being desirable or not. It’s about convenience & getting exactly what you want & when you want it. ever notice how many super famous celebrities prefer paid for companionship? It’s not for lack of options re: providers using whatever to enhance their performance - it’s the same thing as if I have surgery scheduled and the doctor needs his glasses to see. some of the things clients get in their heads about providers never ceases to surprise me - those guys have a very difficult job just dealing with the clients mental state & expectations I know this is going off topic but I would really like to share my thoughts here… I don’t think “feeling desired” is an unrealistic expectation from a client. You can substitute this with “feeling sexy”, “feeling taken care of” etc… whatever the client is specifically looking for. In my mind BFE / boyfriend experience is synonymous with any of all of the above. After all, that’s how boyfriends would actually interact with each other. A provider offering BFE should be willing and able to provide this experience as part of the service. My own experience (outside of hiring) has been that it IS possible to make your partner feel desired / sexy / taken care of / comfortable etc… even if there is not a strong physical attraction. You have to put in more effort - yes - but when I see the other person having a fantastic time because I made them feel like a million bucks, that is a huge turn on for me. It’s cyclical and reciprocal. When I am discussing expectations with provider and tell them what I want from a BFE, I don’t expect the provider to just smile and nod. I have only met 1 provider truly capable of meeting this expectation for me. Edited January 2 by Thique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 14 minutes ago, Thique said: When I am discussing expectations with provider and tell them what I want from a BFE, I don’t expect the provider to just smile and nod. I have only met 1 provider truly capable of meeting this expectation for me. If the expectations are clearly discussed & the provider agrees, then that’s one thing. I’m not quite sure how they would go about manufacturing desire when there isn’t any - but some providers must be better actors than others. Seems like a lot to put upon someone being hired for an hour or two. we’re all different & hire for different reasons. I like to keep it simple & hire for sex only. I expect the provider to be on-time, polite/pleasant & able to perform. That’s it. Looking back on my years of hiring, I’ve had an overwhelming ratio of very positive & satisfactory experiences. And I think it’s mainly because my expectations are simple & I clearly communicate what I want from the provider - there is no confusion. The upside is that makes me an easy & dependable client where the providers will always come back. Simple is good btw - I prefer they take ED meds….because why not ?? Danny-Darko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 It’s ok if feeling desirable is part of your fantasy, provided you don’t lose sight of the fact that it is just a fantasy, and one that starts and ends with the session. Not reading too much into the OP’s purpose behind the question, but as others have alluded to here, if knowing whether ED drugs are in play will somehow confirm the fantasy, you’re on a road that leads nowhere. Experience the magic; you don’t need to know what’s behind the curtain, or, to mix metaphors, you don’t need to know how the sausage is made (hard). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 3 hours ago, Thique said: I don’t think “feeling desired” is an unrealistic expectation from a client. No one is likely to deny that. But some mistake "feeling" desired as actually BEING desired. Danny-Darko, rvwnsd, Bokomaru and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blck37 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 3 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: If the expectations are clearly discussed & the provider agrees, then that’s one thing. I’m not quite sure how they would go about manufacturing desire when there isn’t any - but some providers must be better actors than others. Seems like a lot to put upon someone being hired for an hour or two. we’re all different & hire for different reasons. I like to keep it simple & hire for sex only. I expect the provider to be on-time, polite/pleasant & able to perform. That’s it. Looking back on my years of hiring, I’ve had an overwhelming ratio of very positive & satisfactory experiences. And I think it’s mainly because my expectations are simple & I clearly communicate what I want from the provider - there is no confusion. The upside is that makes me an easy & dependable client where the providers will always come back. Simple is good btw - I prefer they take ED meds….because why not ?? Second this. Great pounding > great BFE - simply because IMO the physical acts are real whilst the affection is acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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