Addressing the Epidemic of impatience and passive aggression when book

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said:

I would love to see a positive post from you one day celebrating how much work you’ve got over the past 12 months explaining how making some key changes, and maybe even a move, has helped you succeed. 

You're a good man Charlie Brown! What an incredibly kind thing to say and share. 

[Guest]

 

💯 

6 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said:

I do genuinely want to see you to grow and succeed. We sympathize with you, especially other providers.

Edited September 25, 2023 by Vin_Marco

[+ BobPS]

2 hours ago, Rudynate said:

Very good advice.  I understand his frustrations, but he keeps doing the same thing with these loser prospects and expecting a different result.  Time wasters are time wasters.  Cheap bastards are cheap bastards. You need to use screening questions to identify them and get rid of them.   My favorites, in my business, are the ones who ask,"Why does it cost so much?"  I used to reason with them like Jarrod does, but a long time ago I realized I don't owe them an explanation and learned to anwer them "Because it does.  Anything else?" And then get off the phone.

“Because it does.”, reminds me of the saying: “Why is divorce so expensive? Because it’s worth it!”

[jeezifonly]

Sometimes, a small business owner just needs to vent, to other small business owners vending similar merchandise to a similar customer base. 

Traveling salesmen have different hurdles to jump in order to move the merchandise. They gotta love what they sell, gotta love interacting with the customers, gotta love learning what closes the deal, and ultimately leave each customer happy enough to check out what they’ve got to offer the next time they roll into town. 
It’s a harder way to sell, especially when some of the inventory has a sell-by date. That’s probably why many young traveling salesmen burn out, or have to find a new way to earn. Maybe it’s just not for everyone. 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

I don't understand the original question.  What was the question?

[pubic_assistance]

4 hours ago, Monarchy79 said:

Stop being mean and nasty. 
if the man is frustrated and need a sounding board, give him the grace to do it here. 

I wasn't being "mean and nasty".

Jarrod has done nothing but complain about his career in escorting for years.

It's a reasonable suggestion that he finally retire and leave all these terrible experience behind him.

No one should suffer daily from his job.

It's unhealthy.

[Monarchy79]

1 hour ago, sf westcoaster said:

Jarrod, you have a rather long list of treads that express frustration with your profession, It  is becoming increasingly clear that you need to change to smoother job/profession.

 

That won’t help. 
No matter what one does, or where they go, they will always take themselves with them. 
 

Jerrod needs therapy. 
 

I’m not being sarcastic or facetious when suggesting this either. 
 

Otherwise, no matter what profession he explores, he will always have complaints and issues. 
 

[Rudynate]

26 minutes ago, BobPS said:

“Because it does.”, reminds me of the saying: “Why is divorce so expensive? Because it’s worth it!”

They already know that they want/need it or they wouldn't be calling me.  The deliverable is a patent application, one of the most difficult legal instruments there is to draft.  I could tell them that it's a long, drawn-out administrative law process, and I could tell them how many degrees I have, how issued many patents I have secured for other clients and so on,  but they don't care.  They have the idea in their mind that applying for a patent is something like getting a driver's license, and I'm supposed to fix that for them somehow. 

[TallMuscl37]

11 hours ago, maninsoma said:

Someone saying they are available the rest of the day doesn't mean you shouldn't try to set a specific time (more or less) with them.  It sounds like you were driving some distance to get to the guy, so I get that it might have been difficult to give a precise time.  Based on the screen shots, though, it sounds like the client anticipated you being there much earlier and your interpretation was that it didn't matter if you arrive within an hour or several hours later.  Maybe some clients would be okay with that, but I expect that a lot of guys would be irritated sitting around waiting.  The wording of "I have a couple of things to do first" doesn't even say much.  Does that mean I have to wash my dishes and take my dog out to pee, or I am in the middle of painting my house and then have to do my grocery shopping for the week?  Again, I expect that a lot of guys would assume that someone who has "a couple of things to do first" means a few easily accomplished tasks, not something that's going to take a long time.  All of this could be avoided by you actually scheduling an appointment.

Sorry if the above has already been addressed by someone else.  I haven't read all of the back-and-forth in this thread yet.

I get what you’re saying, but that’s not how it went.
 

Like I mentioned, he just happened to contact me out the blue: after 2 years, and be suddenly interested in meeting. Whatever anticipation he had, was not anything I GAVE him, he took it upon himself to assume a timing that was never discussed. I couldn’t give him a time, because the only person I had on schedule for Sunday was Mr. “I’m not going to pay your cancellation fee” who I posted earlier. That’s the only person I had on schedule.
 

This “Raytown” guy didn’t contact me until 11:30 on a Sunday on Adam to request a booking, and he waited until just after 1 to even text me and request the visit. This is a common misconception needy types make, and they do it prematurely before getting any word.. I specifically told him: I would need to follow back:

Nothing but 1 hour passed, and he’s already hounding me. And just because he’s ready now, doesn’t mean I’m ready now. I just got his fucking text from Adam at 1 p.m. on a Sunday. That’s too bad that he assumed I am Mary Poppins and the genie 🧞 on standby with an umbrella and magic carpet. I never gave him that impression. He came off impatient, pushy, and was disrespectful. 
 

And here’s the kicker: he wasn’t in a hurry back in 2021 when he cancelled on me: Look at how his message appeared, tied to his last message; and look at the bullshit excuse he gives and how I tried to be nice with him and still be professional:

 

That’s why I wrote what I did because: this guy has a habit of being fickle, and he shows blantant disrespect for me as a provider, yet expects to get A+ service from me.

 

Edited September 26, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[TallMuscl37]

7 hours ago, Monarchy79 said:

That won’t help. 
No matter what one does, or where they go, they will always take themselves with them. 
 

Jerrod needs therapy. 
 

I’m not being sarcastic or facetious when suggesting this either. 
 

Otherwise, no matter what profession he explores, he will always have complaints and issues. 
 

You say therapy like I’m supposed to be offended. Guess what? I went to a counselor. We would meet every 1 to 2 weeks. He knew also I am a sex worker. And he basically told me everything that I already know: lot of people project their bullshit on me, and are inconsiderate: and he didn’t recommend any medication or psych meds that will change that. And I went to a Black, gay, MARRIED counselor. Not some straight Protestant or evangelical White therapist who likely wouldn’t understand my position. But then again, maybe they would because: they’re usually the ones who know what these weirdos are thinking and why they do the shit they do. I confide in them often and they tell me stuff that doesn’t surprise me at all 😆 
 

I even suggested medication lol, because hell: that’s probably why many in the industry smoke weed and/or other anyway. But he said it’s just my personality and level of tolerance, and gave me some recommendations for anger management. And I definitely managed my anger yesterday because, the old me-(when I was younger) would have took a 🧱 or 🔨 to his window, did doughnuts in his yard, spray paint his door…anything. All I did this time was gently blow the loud horn a few times in front of his house, then I left and wrote an informative comment to warn others not to fall for this fraud. 
 

Plus : I also didn’t have full proof that was HIS actual home, and I know how innocent people often get caught up in unintended drama. Plus there is a story in Kansas City about a Black teen ringing a door bell, and getting shot. So, I rather take the Christian route: leave it in God’s hands, but warn thou fellows of the devil ☝️
 

How about this: worry about your own therapy. Or better yet, I’m not going to attack you because you’re innocent in this. Why don’t I email you the phone numbers of all the guys who do these things, and you text bomb them in one big group message, and suggest them get therapy, because clearly they are the one with the issue. I’m just minding my business, taking calls and texts. THEY are the one doing stupid inconsiderate shit, and poking the bear. I was having a perfectly fine day and plans of my own. 
 

I’ll go ahead and send you that list of clients you need to refer to therapy. Thankyou for the suggestion.

Edited September 26, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Rudynate]

7 hours ago, BobPS said:

“Because it does.”, reminds me of the saying: “Why is divorce so expensive? Because it’s worth it!”

That's smart sales - selling them on the benefits rather than the features.

[+ nycman]

[TallMuscl37]

9 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

Some members write you off as a chronic complainer but I do genuinely want to see you to grow and succeed. We sympathize with you, especially other providers. I would love to see a positive post from you one day celebrating how much work you’ve got over the past 12 months explaining how making some key changes, and maybe even a move, has helped you succeed. 

A lot of clients are inconsiderate jerks and wishy washy, but that’s how the industry works. It can be better in some places compared to others, but we will always have flakes and time wasting behavior to deal with. People will lowball us, question our rates and policies. It’s human nature, and there’s no changing it. Add to that the racism component and it’s even worse. You have more years of experience than I, so you know these things even better than I do. That’s what puzzles me about the repeated posts about clients…being clients.

What we can do to cope and improve is focus on the things we can control. We don’t have to explain or justify our policies. We don’t have to get mad at the client for disagreeing with our boundaries. We don’t have to convince the client we are right or fair. We don’t have to change the client’s mind about anything. They either conform to our policies and rates for the services they want, or they don’t. When they don’t, move on.

I agree with the other comments; it’s best not to engage clients demonstrating a lack of respect for you and your work and how you choose to do business. Establish your boundaries and policies and stick to them, even if it means losing some work. That’s time saved not dealing with bad clients. When there are not enough good clients in your market, move to another one. If you can’t do that, maybe pick up some other work temporarily to help you save up for a move.

We have different views on deposits, but you have your reasons. Whatever your policies, the key is to not make exceptions to them. When you do (infrequently, for some compelling reason), make it clear to the client what it is and why you are making the exception so they don’t have the impression they can expect the same thing every time.

You might consider keeping your rates the same regardless of frequency so people don’t have any illusions about being entitled to a “regular client” rate when they only book you months or years apart. Or establish a hard line policy like they have to book you at least once per week/month/quarter or whatever so they know why they aren’t entitled.

A hot tip about that client 50 mins away: People need firm time commitments otherwise they sit and stew in impatience and uncertainty. Every minute that goes by, the more they think that you aren’t coming, or will come way later than they want or expect you to. The uncertainty is what kills them. When you commit to a time you know you can make “I will arrive by 5pm and text you when I park”. That gives the client the freedom to relax and anticipate your arrival and do other things in the meantime other than worry and second guess.

I did address the timing thing in my post above: the client contacted me out the blue on a time of day I wasn’t expecting to take a booking to begin with.
 

But, had he just been patient and not pushy, I would have easily been able to fit him in. I had specifically told him I would need to follow up to get a time to him. Nobody told him to stop or not do anything. If it was that urgent he should have told me from the start, he needed to meet by a certain time.

However I’m done with could have/would have with him. He seems the type of client that would likely be trouble anyway. People like that come on very strong, but then don’t pan out in the long run. Or, they brag about how horny they are: but then 10 minutes into it: tap out or get some weird reaction (very common in this area) 
 

I understand what you’re saying, and the confidence you’re wanting to instill, and thankyou for acknowledging my “seniority” in the business (as we can see though in DC: being older/experienced doesn’t always equate to “respected by all lol”) but this is the terrible by product of living in a bad market. My worst nightmare used to be, man: what if I moved or lived in that city I had a bad tour in, how would I even survive? 
 

My current market is that worst nightmare. I used to travel from Denver to the South/East Coast years ago, and I usually always skipped many of the cities in the Midwest except Minnesota and Wisconsin, simply because I noticed right off the bat how disrespectful and rude many of the clients were. I was like yuck, I would NEVER move to Kansas City or St. Louis, such rude and flaky clients! I would sometimes overnight in a neighboring town far away from both cities, versus risk getting a hotel and placing an ad just to deal with all the idiot flakes in the city. And now, here I am. Wasn’t even really my choice, but a compilation of things made that happen. 
 

That said, not all the clients are bad apples. And consistent advertising and staying local has helped me meet some good quality guys, who I probably wouldn’t have met just stopping in for a night or 2. So, there’s some perks. 
 

Overall, you’re right. I’m done making leeway for these people. For now on, everything is going to continue to be even more to the point and laid out, with the instructions I give, and I’m not making any exceptions again. 

12 hours ago, Monarchy79 said:

True Words….

However, minorities (specifically blacks) get shit treatment in just about every industry. I know from experience, and managed to come out on top every time. 
 

The key to succeeding in any business when you are black is to understand that you’re going to have people who will attempt at many forms of ill will towards you, but strategizing to navigate through it.  And note, this dynamic of disrespect and disregard includes other black people and other minorities as well (we get crap from just about all groups).  In Jerrod’s case, all of his clients can be problematic. The problem with Jerrod is that he has failed to understand human nature, the bias that comes with human nature, and he has not properly adjusted his expectations of people with the realities of people. Then the poor guy always winds up disappointment, and frustrated. 

I want to personally gift him the full collection of Robert Greene books (with a focus on “The Laws of Human Nature”) and just reprogram his thinking. 

The world (and the people in it) with never change. Black people who understand this, are the ones who succeed, in any business. 
 

 

 

Thanks, but again: you still have to acknowledge the disrespect and those who are dishing it: need to be willing to CHANGE. 

It’s like saying: getting whipped is bad, but you must be willing to grow a thicker skin! No, how about those who are doing the whipping stop and educate themselves, stop being an ass and treat each other better 🤷🏾‍♂️ 

13 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Yes.

You've been telling us that for years.

When are you retiring and finally solving this problem ?

 

When you send me a money order or cash app me $50,000 so I can slow down for a year and take time to focus on other things? 

11 hours ago, Monarchy79 said:

Mistake #1, 

You replied to the text.

Mistake # 2,

You defended your rate.

“Never complain, never explain.” 

 

Well I should mention: I was bored that night…and I just wanted to throw it at him on purpose. But then look at this. I noticed on my cash app, he changed his name and declined my $20 request. I wish I could say I was making this up 🤦🏾‍♂️ 

At this point, I’m not even offended. That person was a bullet dodged and just proof of stupidity or someone with very low intent. Get a job? But he’s the one calling me begging to meet, and I’m the one turning him down because he was hella sketch. I been around long enough to know when something doesn’t add up, next…

 

and then later…

 

9 hours ago, Spiritualadvisor said:

Can you share the link to this? Thank you 

Trying to keep that on the low, because it’s a different type of forum. There’s a lot of venting from providers going on there, and I been trying to keep quiet here and keep it there: but it’s like, this needs to be discussed here because it’s a different level of clientele than the straight community. 

Edited September 26, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Monarchy79]

22 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

t’s like saying: getting whipped is bad, but you must be willing to grow a thicker skin! No, how about those who are doing the whipping stop and educate themselves, stop being an ass and treat each other better 🤷🏾‍♂️

And THIS is your Achilles heel babe…..

You must understand that a lot of guys are ass-wholes. And they are universal ass-wholes. Their behavior isn’t about you, and you can’t “change”, or “teach”, them anything. 
leopards don’t change their spots, tigers don’t change their stripes, and men don’t change their antics. The best you can do is control how your react to people. 
 

Ignoring people and being unbothered is the biggest flex of all time. And it eats away at obnoxious guys…. Trust me. 
 

The time you waste arguing with men you’ll probably never meet, could he spent on better things, like maneuvering to build worthwhile clientele, enjoying a hobby, or just relaxing. 
 

Stop allowing people to play you out of your energy. 

Edited September 26, 2023 by Monarchy79

[Monarchy79]

1 hour ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

You say therapy like I’m supposed to be offended. Guess what? I went to a counselor. We would meet every 1 to 2 weeks. He knew also I am a sex worker. And he basically told me everything that I already know: lot of people project their bullshit on me, and are inconsiderate: and he didn’t recommend any medication or psych meds that will change that. And I went to a Black, gay, MARRIED counselor. Not some straight Protestant or evangelical White therapist who likely wouldn’t understand my position. But then again, maybe they would because: they’re usually the ones who know what these weirdos are thinking and why they do the shit they do. I confide in them often and they tell me stuff that doesn’t surprise me at all 😆 
 

I even suggested medication lol, because hell: that’s probably why many in the industry smoke weed and/or other anyway. But he said it’s just my personality and level of tolerance, and gave me some recommendations for anger management. And I definitely managed my anger yesterday because, the old me-(when I was younger) would have took a 🧱 or 🔨 to his window, did doughnuts in his yard, spray paint his door…anything. All I did this time was gently blow the loud horn a few times in front of his house, then I left and wrote an informative comment to warn others not to fall for this fraud. 
 

Plus : I also didn’t have full proof that was HIS actual home, and I know how innocent people often get caught up in unintended drama. Plus there is a story in Kansas City about a Black teen ringing a door bell, and getting shot. So, I rather take the Christian route: leave it in God’s hands, but warn thou fellows of the devil ☝️
 

How about this: worry about your own therapy. Or better yet, I’m not going to attack you because you’re innocent in this. Why don’t I email you the phone numbers of all the guys who do these things, and you text bomb them in one big group message, and suggest them get therapy, because clearly they are the one with the issue. I’m just minding my business, taking calls and texts. THEY are the one doing stupid inconsiderate shit, and poking the bear. I was having a perfectly fine day and plans of my own. 
 

I’ll go ahead and send you that list of clients you need to refer to therapy. Thankyou for the suggestion.

I specifically stated in my comment that it wasn’t intended for you to be offended. 
 

Now let me ask you this… in your therapy sessions, did he make a clear determination of the common denominator in all of your problems? Was he able to at least make this determination? 

[TallMuscl37]

5 minutes ago, Monarchy79 said:

And THIS is your Achilles heel babe…..

You must understand that a lot of guys are ass-wholes. And they are universal ass-wholes. Their behavior isn’t about you, and you can’t “change”, or “teach”, them anything. 
leopards don’t change their spots, tigers don’t change their stripes, and men don’t change their antics. The best you can do is control how your react to people. 
 

Ignoring people and being unbothered is the biggest flex of all time. And it eats away at obnoxious guys…. Trust me. 
 

The time you waste arguing with men you’ll probably never meet, could he spent on better things, like maneuvering to build worthwhile clientele, enjoying a hobby, or just relaxing. 
 

Stop allowing people to play you out of your energy. 

Right, but: my thing is you’re saying these things and putting the burden on me to “accept it”, yet I’m not hearing specific solutions. As you can see from this thread and all the response: some guys seem all okay up until a certain point. At one point do I “ignore them?” When an appointment is already made? When they reach my phone, or when they have me going to a location they cancel en route?

I already know what I need to do, and I’ve done it. I know I can’t change people, but I can continue to require deposits. That was the ultimate mistake I made yesterday, not getting a deposit from this guy before I left. Even though it was just going to be a short visit. And even though it wasn’t a 100% wasted trip since I was already going elsewhere in the area: I don’t care anymore. I don’t even care if a client is in the same hotel as me, I will STILL require a deposit before I leave my room or give out mine. 

[Monarchy79]

1 minute ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

I don’t care anymore. I don’t even care if a client is in the same hotel as me, I will STILL require a deposit before I leave my room or give out mine. 

And in a few weeks or months… guess what your next rant is going to be? 
 

“These guys are horrible.. I’m losing prospective clients because they don’t want to adhere to my deposit guidelines.”

[TallMuscl37]

5 minutes ago, Monarchy79 said:

I specifically stated in my comment that it wasn’t intended for you to be offended. 
 

Now let me ask you this… in your therapy sessions, did he make a clear determination of the common denominator in all of your problems? Was he able to at least make this determination? 

See, now you’re trying to be funny and I’m having a hard time believing if you say you weren’t trying to offend me. Because right here you’re now trying to insinuate something. When you say problems and common denominator, I know what you’re trying to do. And personally it’s non of your business what we discussed, that’s why it’s therapy in the first place.

Mind your own, please. Thankyou very much. 

[TallMuscl37]

9 minutes ago, Monarchy79 said:

And in a few weeks or months… guess what your next rant is going to be? 
 

“These guys are horrible.. I’m losing prospective clients because they don’t want to adhere to my deposit guidelines.”

On the contrary, I have have plenty of clients who are fine with my deposit policy. This whole thread has already proven that I’m not losing prospective clients based on my deposit guidelines, but rather: weeding out the trouble makers who don’t. On my latest tour: every client I met sent me a deposit. The ones who didn’t, wanted me to either A) stop in their city AND host, which essentially is me putting my money upfront for nothing more than a series of texts, or they wanted me to come to a hotel with very little verification. 

So what point are you making, sir? You’re making no sense to me now. One minute you claim to be having my side, next minute you’re being 2 faced and saying something offensive. Make up your mind. Either be on my side or don’t. Because you can’t be on my side and then trying to pop jokes and sarcasm towards how I choose to do things, all in one page. That’s what I call: being phony. And I don’t tolerate fake people, any more than fake clients. And if you come to me with that energy, I’m going to call you out. 

Edited September 26, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Monarchy79]

1 minute ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

See, now you’re trying to be funny and I’m having a hard time believing if you say you weren’t trying to offend me. Because right here you’re now trying to insinuate something. When you say problems and common denominator, I know what you’re trying to do. And personally it’s non of your business what we discussed, that’s why it’s therapy in the first place.

Mind your own, please. Thankyou very much. 

Ohhhh… I smell a trigger….

And the reason for this trigger is because deep down in your soul, you know the common demoninator . It’s you. 
 

Not trying to offend you at all,
but you need to hear this. 
This is why other guys in the comments give you snarky remarks. It’s because they know it’s you. And this is why you keep going in circles, being presented with the same drama over and over.. month after month, year after year. The universe is trying to tell you it’s you. 
 

Until you rework your energy, your attitude, your baggage, your past trauma, and jaded parts of your past, you’ll never have peace. 
 

The only person who refuses to see this is you. Helen Keller, Stevie Winder and Ray Charles can all see this. 
 

I’ve defended you when others tire of your consistent ranting and whining, and I’ve even given you grace when others flat out insult you.

But you sir, need a reality check. A hard one. And until you do some introspective work, you’ll be forever angry, forever frustrated, and  perpetually bitter.

I sincerely wish you well. 

[TallMuscl37]

32 minutes ago, Monarchy79 said:

Ohhhh… I smell a trigger….

And the reason for this trigger is because deep down in your soul, you know the common demoninator . It’s you. 
 

Not trying to offend you at all,
but you need to hear this. 
This is why other guys in the comments give you snarky remarks. It’s because they know it’s you. And this is why you keep going in circles, being presented with the same drama over and over.. month after month, year after year. The universe is trying to tell you it’s you. 
 

Until you rework your energy, your attitude, your baggage, your past trauma, and jaded parts of your past, you’ll never have peace. 
 

The only person who refuses to see this is you. Helen Keller, Stevie Winder and Ray Charles can all see this. 
 

I’ve defended you when others tire of your consistent ranting and whining, and I’ve even given you grace when others flat out insult you.

But you sir, need a reality check. A hard one. And until you do some introspective work, you’ll be forever angry, forever frustrated, and  perpetually bitter.

I sincerely wish you well. 

Bro please, keep that well wish to yourself because you don’t mean it. Especially after everything you just said above that. Don’t come to me with that fake well wish, and you lie in your sincerity.

You clearly have animosity against me, and it shows in your post. You can’t even make up your mind whether you’re for me or against me. You know the stuff I say is accurate, but you only side with the parts that you can relate with. Yet, you disparage my business model, and have no basis on anything directly relating to what I say.
 

You don’t have to defend me. Leave. I can do that all on my own. I’m not here to have you defend me. Sorry you were mistaken. You don’t even know the half of everything. Go to my RentMen ad right now, and see all the good reviews. What circles are you talking about? 
 

I can talk about whatever I want to talk about. Other posters like @Simon Suraciand @BenjaminNicholas are actually using factual and informative dialogue that understands what I’m dealing with, and takes that into account.
 

It’s not always about you, me or a common denominator. I have a right to express things in a way how I feel it needs to be said, and I said it exactly how I wanted. Some of these guys do come off impatient, and needy and passive aggressive. But I don’t need them to use that as leverage while they dangle money and then try to take it away from me. I don’t need them. For every client who falls thru, I always find someone else to replace. 
 

But these websites have done very little to help us avoid it. They just want our money every month, and collect. I’m being innovative and coming up with strategies to help, and you have the audacity to make a joke about: I’m losing prospective clients because they don’t want to adhere to my deposit guidelines.”

I never said that. You putting words in my mouth. My issue with you is, your tone is ratchet to me, and you’re coming at me condescending and trying to put me down. And I’m not even with it anymore. I’m definitely not going to let you do that. So you can see your way out, please. Leave…

Edited September 26, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Monarchy79]

2 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Bro please, keep that well wish to yourself because you don’t mean it. Especially after everything you just said above that. Don’t come to me with that fake well wish, and you lie in your sincerity.

You clearly have animosity against me, and it shows in your post. You can’t even make up your mind whether you’re for me or against me. You know the stuff I say is accurate, but you only side with the parts that you can relate with. Yet, you disparage my business model, and have no basis on anything directly relating to what I say.
 

You don’t have to defend me. Leave. I can do that all on my own. I’m not here to have you defend me. Sorry you were mistaken And you don’t even know the half of everything. Go to my RentMen ad right now, and see all the good reviews. What circles are you talking about? 
 

I can talk about whatever I want to talk about. Other posters like @Simon Suraciand @BenjaminNicholas are actually using factual and informative dialogue that understands what I’m dealing with, and takes that into sound. It’s not always about you, me or a common denominator. I have a right to express things in a way how I feel it needs to be said, and I said it exactly how I wanted. Some of these guys do come off impatient, and needy and passive aggressive. But I don’t need them to use that as leverage while they dangle money and then try to take it away from me. I don’t need them. For every client who falls thru, I always find someone else to replace. 
 

My issue with you is, you’re getting accusatory and talking condescending to me and trying to embarrass me. And I’m not even with it anymore. See your way out, please. Leave…

I have no animosity towards you. The only feeling I have towards you is sincere pity. 

And I’m saddened by it. 

Watching you waste precious time fighting with potential clients, members of this forum, (and now me), is troubling. 

I agree with you wholeheartedly…. You have every right to express yourself however you choose. But if you have the same issues over and over and there is never a resolution, yet your approach to them doesn’t change.. What good comes out of that? Absolutely nothing. 
 

 

 

 

[TallMuscl37]

9 minutes ago, Monarchy79 said:

I have no animosity towards you. The only feeling I have towards you is sincere pity. 

And I’m saddened by it. 

Watching you waste precious time fighting with potential clients, members of this forum, (and now me), is troubling. 

I agree with you wholeheartedly…. You have every right to express yourself however you choose. But if you have the same issues over and over and there is never a resolution, yet your approach to them doesn’t change.. What good comes out of that? Absolutely nothing. 
 

 

 

 

Nobody is fighting, until you said what you said. And those “potentials” you refer to weren’t potentials at all. They were about as real of clients as was mentioned in this thread

And I included about how some escorts out there aren’t real either. 
 

You may not think there’s been no resolution, but it’s already happened. Don’t take a simple rant on the forum, to imply there’s been no solution. That’s just the steam coming from the production. 
 

If you really want to help like you say you do, just contact the people on the list I’m going to formulate for you…who you should be referring to therapy. Talk is cheap. If you’re going to suggest therapy for one, suggest for all who are involved. Because it takes 2 to tango. Why don’t you go find an article online: about passive aggressive behavior, how to respect customers/self employed people, and post it here.

You doing all that barking but not doing shit encouraging or uplifting of value. Since you can’t, I will: give me a few minutes.

 

Edited September 26, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[TallMuscl37]

Dealing with Difficult Clients

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Most clients are easygoing and easily led by a sex worker when they feel that they are getting the services they...

Clients who insult workers

Clients can be insulting when they are in your company, on the phone, in an email and on forums.   

Sounds familiar 🤔 

Edited September 26, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[TallMuscl37]

What Is Black Fatigue, and How Can We Protect…

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Here are eight tips for organizations embarking on a diversity, equity, and inclusion process.

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  You cannot empathize if you do not know anything about the person or group with whom you wish to offer empathy. You can sympathize, which often leads to pity and patronization. Empathy takes work. When you can empathize, you will be more likely to take action.

So the person who said, “I pity you”…please don’t.

Edited September 26, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut