Are deposit requests becoming a regular thing?

[skynyc]

Recently, a provider with whom I was texting said I could pay in advance via PayPal and there would be a $50 discount. Since this happened about two hours before we met, I said I'd already been to the ATM and I'd just pay the originally agreed upon amount. As I was leaving my apartment to go to his hotel, I got a text saying he needed to push me back a half-hour. When I got to his hotel (for the later time) I texted him that I was there. Sat (like Adelaide from Guys and Dolls) getting the fish-eye from the hotel clerk for ten minutes before I texted him again. Got an "OMG...didn't see you were here, I'll be down in 5 minutes." When he didn't send room, I should have left immediately. But I waited 10 more minutes before leaving. Texted that I was gone and got a "So sorry to miss you, I fell asleep, I was just on my way down" whiny reply. 

SO GLAD I DIDN'T PAY AHEAD!!! 

[Karch]

I use cash only in this industry. I’d have no problem with a deposit in some circumstances if there were an easy and secure way to do it anonymously.   

[Guest leftbench23]

On the rare occasion I send deposits, it is only with repeat providers because I’ve built up the relationships to trust them to send deposits. 

[IamAdamRose]

& btw, any client who wants to book an overnight, YOU SHOULD ALWAYS PAY THE PROVIDER A 20-25-“% DEPOSIT…. just my opinion, me personally anyone can say they want to book an overnight to me but i wont take them seriously if they dont

[+ azdr0710]

past deposit discussion........😉...........

 

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/139430-asking-clients-for-a-deposit/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/139460-milos-opinion-paying-a-deposit-or-upfront/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/138042-and-that’s-the-reason-i-only-book-clients-who-send-deposits/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/108249-deposits-pre-payments-and-itunes-gift-cards/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/127473-will-you-pay-a-deposit-to-a-stranger/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/130193-5-deposit/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/136250-a-proper-way-to-do-client-deposit/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/132705-i-feel-like-i-may-be-getting-conned…/

 

[Trick]

3 hours ago, azdr0710 said:

past deposit discussion........😉...........

 

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/139430-asking-clients-for-a-deposit/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/139460-milos-opinion-paying-a-deposit-or-upfront/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/138042-and-that’s-the-reason-i-only-book-clients-who-send-deposits/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/108249-deposits-pre-payments-and-itunes-gift-cards/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/127473-will-you-pay-a-deposit-to-a-stranger/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/130193-5-deposit/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/136250-a-proper-way-to-do-client-deposit/

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/132705-i-feel-like-i-may-be-getting-conned…/

 

Sorry if this has been discussed before. What do you think of providers asking for a deposit?

[+ azdr0710]

15 minutes ago, Trick said:

Sorry if this has been discussed before. What do you think of providers asking for a deposit?

though I understand providers' frustration with flaky clients, it shouldn't be done........too many horror stories........perhaps a $20 appointment confirmation fee??.....

[+ Axiom2001]

Strangely, this thread appears here today for my eyes to focus.  (02/27/23).

 Last evening I had a wonderful experience and time with one hot escort who had expressed a deposit of $20.  But in my asking about him on this site and from some of his previous clients who are at RENTMEN, he wrote me the most welcoming words stating that he had been informed about my queries from previous clients, and since I'd taken the time to do this, he'll cancel.  

 I smiled broadly when I read his words and relayed my reaction to him last evening.

He was great company; I enjoyed his handsomeness, but slightly rugged looks; his overall demeanor, our conversation, and his overall tastiness.  At one point I just had to admire and tell him "I want to eat out your very"fabulous ass."

Guess I was fortunate, for I WILL NOT pay a deposit upfront.  I would NOT know how to do it anyway, for I use credit/debit cards, cash, and NO 21st century money transactions via one's cell phone.

Edited February 28, 2023 by Axiom2001

[Trick]

17 minutes ago, azdr0710 said:

though I understand providers' frustration with flaky clients, it shouldn't be done........too many horror stories........perhaps a $20 appointment confirmation fee??.....

I was joking when I asked but thanks for the reply anyway 

[+ jessmapex]

There are two types of escorts who ask for deposits.

Genuine guys who put in time and effort to get ready and travel to you with public or hired transport. Generally, considering factors such as your interaction with them, their RM reviews, comments on this site (for some of them) , your gut feeling, your eagerness to meet, perceived truthfulness of pix (very professionally done portfolio, model/ movie star looks may point to a fake profile),  you can pay a small deposit to cover transport. But such providers are rare. Also, in this case you can consider offering sending a one-way Uber instead of a deposit. Also, consider calling the escort. You can tell a lot about an escort by talking to them. A 25 yr old talks differently than a 40 yr old. Also, there are accents that can help (if an "all American boy next-door" sounds like an Eastern European, you are in for an unpleasant surprise).

Most deposit askers .. especially the ones who ask for a large portion of their charges ...are out to take your money and run. They are probably not even escorts..most likely just someone running a scam from Florida. I have been hiring for 22 years and have learned this only the hard way. Trust your gut, not the smaller head. 

Despite all this, I fell victim to a pay-in-advance scam as recently as two weeks ago. But that was on Chaturbate and the guy I saw on camera was an all-american boy next-door from a southern state. 

I like the idea of escrow accounts, but given the risk, no sane FinTech company will offer it anytime soon.

[+ DrownedBoy]

As others have said, only for RM who I have good reason to trust, and only for ones who are extremely attractive and/or popular.

The most recent time was for a hot provider who had like 100 reviews on RM with a 4.9+ average. Someone that popular needs to filter out flakes - I get that. But I still wouldn't pay a full half of the fee ahead of time; he had to settle for less.

The only time I lost a deposit was when I cancelled the appointment. The only times I've lost money is when the criminal came and personally took the cash.

Edited February 28, 2023 by DrownedBoy

[DWnyc]

Many clients will never pay a deposit - never. They would rather not see a provider. 

Which tells me there will always be providers willing to operate without taking a deposit.

This business hardly has tough entry and exit criteria.

 

 

[amused1]

Further complicating matters is the fact that only paying rent.men members can post reviews now. It makes it harder for providers to check the legitimacy of a potential client. 

[Trick]

3 hours ago, amused1 said:

Further complicating matters is the fact that only paying rent.men members can post reviews now. It makes it harder for providers to check the legitimacy of a potential client. 

 

That’s why clients should find this message board.

[amused1]

10 hours ago, Trick said:

 

That’s why clients should find this message board.

It would also require providers to participate in this board too. I always tell good providers about it. I've shown it to two providers in the past 4 months. Neither had any idea it existed. One mentioned to me that several of his clients are here and he's made more connections through it. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

14 hours ago, amused1 said:

Further complicating matters is the fact that only paying rent.men members can post reviews now. It makes it harder for providers to check the legitimacy of a potential client. 

You would think that providers would actually use RentMen to confirm if the client is a Premium member, yet I've yet to meet one who does. That's a missed opportunity - a Premium provider account means the guy is willing to spend.

[Walt]

On 2/27/2023 at 5:54 PM, jessmapex said:

I like the idea of escrow accounts, but given the risk, no sane FinTech company will offer it anytime soon.

If it's not for fintech maybe Shark Tank or Kickstarter?  😉

[Enronnja]

The biggest one I fear is paying upon meeting and they claim they never got it. 

[+ nycman]

5 minutes ago, Enronnja said:

The biggest one I fear is paying upon meeting and they claim they never got it. 

So don’t pay when you meet them.

Pay after. Problem solved.

[ChasingGirth]

If the guy is in your city, and it’s a same day meeting, it sounds insane to request a deposit.

I have interacted with one guy that was literally 4 blocks away from me. I was and he was available to meet 1 hour later, still he asked for a deposit.

Unfortunately new clients get easily manipulated and that’s sad. At the end of the day we are the boss and they should put an effort sometimes.

And I will say it again if a guy is confident enough and is taking what he does seriously he shouldn’t be afraid of flakes.

At the end of the day we are all human and I’m allowed to change my mind. That’s why I never book someone in advance because the unexpected can happen.

I, however like to chat prior meeting someone and I always ask their availability and what their schedule looks like. I go from there.

I understand traveling guys though, they have 1 or 2 nights in a city and they want to make sure they’ll get the guy they wanted but still they shouldn’t have to pay for a deposit. 

[IamAdamRose]

4 hours ago, ChasingGirth said:

Unfortunately new clients get easily manipulated and that’s sad. At the end of the day we are the boss and they should put an effort sometimes.

& those are the ones you have to get a deposit. In my eyes, every new potential is a flake till proven otherwise. Me for example, if a client request for me to wear make up, not doing so till I receive a 20% deposit or if its a repeat customer i know who wont do me wrong

[Archbishop]

Yesterday I scheduled a 2 hour session for Thursday night with a provider and he didn’t ask for a deposit when I booked. Just now he texted back saying he had other clients interested in our time slot and asked me to put down a deposit to hold the slot. I told him to let the other clients have my spot instead!

[GTMike]

23 minutes ago, Archbishop said:

Yesterday I scheduled a 2 hour session for Thursday night with a provider and he didn’t ask for a deposit when I booked. Just now he texted back saying he had other clients interested in our time slot and asked me to put down a deposit to hold the slot. I told him to let the other clients have my spot instead!

I had almost similar experience with a potential 1st time meet.

Text’d/Messages on RM site a couple times before and arranged meeting.

We mutually confirmed early afternoon and early evening for the time later in night (at my place).

Then about 30 - 45 minutes before scheduled time asked for deposit. I politely declined and he got fairly upset saying he couldn’t understand why i’d have a problem when so many other businesses/and other professions require similar procedures and proceeded to give me examples. 

Had to tell him that may/may not be analogous but my issue mostly had to do with that a deposit wasn’t ever mentioned on his long-standing profile.

We had communicated many   times prior over past weeks/months trying to match schedules and we had comprehensively discussed likes, boundaries etc..that could happen during our time together with no objections.

And as mentioned confirmed twice earlier that day. A deposit was never discussed or hinted at prior to right before the session.

To this day i’m conflicted whether it was always an intentional scam, or was a sincere deposit request prior to having to travel and hedging risk and session would be fine, or the person could just had been drinking/high and whether originally intended or not it’d be easier for excuses changing the time/details etc.. to start flowing. once that deposit was made 🥴

[+ IronMaus]

Its more common than you may think - but for one hour? I say heck no don't do it!

There is no simple yes or no answer to the question of deposits. Everyone is different and there are enough clients who are comfortable with this for escorts to continue doing it. Trans, femme, and female providers are more accustomed to down payments for very good reason - cis-male providers may have less reason, but that does not mean they have no reason.

Before Covid I was more likely to require a deposit for dates, overnights, weekends, trips from people I could not verify. When clients do not share any information, use a fake name, and have nothing to show for their hiring - longstanding profiles, reviews left, references from colleagues, etc. - it can be a big risk for a provider to block out that time, reject inquiries for anything in that time frame, and budget with those earnings in mind.

Since the pandemic, people are clutching their purses close and far less likely to go for this. So I've relaxed on this almost entirely. I'm not going to shoot myself in the foot over this, but on several occasions I have lost BIG TIME on cancelled occasions. This is a very difficult scenario for us to account for.

Some escorts (for multi-day trips) require half up front and half upon completion. If a client cancels with good reason, they'll likely roll this amount over until the hopefully rescheduled encounter. This works well for them I think this is very reasonable considering the preparation it takes for multi-day trips and the money that will be earned from them.

[Guest PETEPETE]

On 3/1/2023 at 3:08 PM, Archbishop said:

Yesterday I scheduled a 2 hour session for Thursday night with a provider and he didn’t ask for a deposit when I booked. Just now he texted back saying he had other clients interested in our time slot and asked me to put down a deposit to hold the slot. I told him to let the other clients have my spot instead!

Bravo.