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5 hours ago, Monarchy79 said:

Desiring a man who is confirmed to never fully be attracted to you is nonsensical.

But I think the bigger issue is WHY so many gay men chase self-proclaimed straight guys. 
 

I’ll dive a bit deeper by making this observation:

 The straight men they desire are never effeminate straight men, soft straight men or cuckolds.

This observation leads me to believe that the desire to have a straight man, is connected with an idea of “authentic masculinity”, which many gay men believe cannot be achieved by another gay man. 
 

What’s unfortunate about this is that a paradigm is created where straight men can play with the minds of desperate gay men, seeking the “real man”, of their fantasies, by giving them glimmers of hope of making them his “ultimate bitch.” 
 

I see the lust on many sites, especially onlyfans, where straight guys are playing fools out of their pockets for the sheer idea of a fantasy. 
 

To each his own, but why waste money on hope? 
I would never:

Subscribe to any of their OnlyFans

or hire for the services of any straight man, ever…

I don’t want to play myself, nor do I want to give any straight man the satisfaction of believing that every gay man wants him. 
 

NO WAY…. 

 

Plenty of gay escorts are not sexually attracted to you either. News flash- they are only having sex with you for money.

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I should say I do think there are some clients(not all) whose exclusive desire for straight men is a manifestation of some not-so-subtle internalized homophobia and they would do well to examine that a bit. It's one thing to prefer guys who give off a straight vibe. It's another to describe them as "REAL men."

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6 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Do you believe any of the escorts you hire are "attracted to you" ?

No, but I think there's an important difference.  Gay/bi guys are offering what they are used to and enjoy in their private lives.  Clients may be attractive only for the paycheck, but the engagement is still within the bounds of the provider's sexuality.  For a straight man, it's more like a gay man being paid to have sex with a middle-aged, overweight, socially awkward woman, a whole different level of performance is required.

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5 hours ago, goosh69 said:

Plenty of gay escorts are not sexually attracted to you either. News flash- they are only having sex with you for money.

That’s true for many of those who hire escorts. But at least those gay escorts can perform expected services.

I’ll never understand hiring some straight guy to “muscle worship” or to suck on his limp dick, while he looks at the client in disgust. 
 

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5 hours ago, goosh69 said:

Plenty of gay escorts are not sexually attracted to you either. News flash- they are only having sex with you for money.

There’s a difference between someone not being personally attracted to you, and someone not being biologically attracted to your entire gender. 

A gay escort may not be personally attracted to you, but they can still be biologically inclined to perform. A truly straight escort cannot do that. 
 

 

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To answer the OP, I don’t see it as “a fantasy”. I’ve hired several men - all fit, young handsome guys with muscled bodies - who defined as ‘straight’.

I never cared about what label people use or how they define themselves. I was only interested in their physical appearance and whether we’d be compatible in bed.

I’m only ever a top. I always want to top a muscleboy. I also enjoy being sucked off to completion by a muscleboy who swallows my load. I enjoyed pounding the muscleboy’s butt and unloading in the muscleboy’s mouth.

I checked they were ready to meet my needs and they checked what I would pay.

 My big thick cock was of little interest to them. My big thick wallet was what mattered. I assume my money met their needs.

As it happens, I ended up with two ‘straight’ fuckbuddies at different times when I was between boyfriends. I saw both for some years. Both liked older men. One was a personal trainer who married and had a baby. Over the years, I ‘trained’ him. He went from giving a dry peck on the cheek as a greeting to becoming a passionate kisser with tongue. He told me how much he loved the taste of cum, and when excited and having his hole pounded, he’d say Fuck me, Daddy. The other had a stunning physique, a fitness model who claimed to have “girlfriends”. Naturally compliant, he craved cock and he became a real cum-hound. He’d want to drain me of several loads. Over time, I took him from shyly confessing his desires and getting naked, to stripping readily to service me (and other men) in group sex settings. He loved being desired by an older man.

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1 hour ago, Monarchy79 said:

It also needs to be clarified that identifying as straight, and being straight are two different things.

Exactly.

It doesn't matter how someone identifies.

If a "straight" guy is having sexual contact with men, he's obviously not 100% straight. 

It also doesn't matter whether he's straight or gay, if you're old and fat....he's NOT into you. He's there for the cash.

 

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38 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Exactly.

It doesn't matter how someone identifies.

If a "straight" guy is having sexual contact with men, he's obviously not 100% straight. 

It also doesn't matter whether he's straight or gay, if you're old and fat....he's NOT into you. He's there for the cash.

 

Eh, chasers are a thing and once in a while they themselves are jacked. I've occasionally been pleasantly surprised in free encounters by guys I wouldn't expect to have a shot with approaching me. If they only knew how much $$ they could make doing what they love...

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1 hour ago, sniper said:

Eh, chasers are a thing

Probably true, which means my statement was too broad. But, as a general rule if you're hiring a really hot guy and you're old and out of shape.... he's not gonna be into you whether he's "straight" ( bi ) or gay. So ...I don't think the distinction is important at all. He's not "dating" you...he's sucking your dick for money. The money is the most attractive thing in that "relationship".

I had a friend (who's since passed). Who was a famous writer and musician. In his youth, he was addicted to heroin and he would turn tricks for drug money. As an adult he defined himself as 100% straight. I asked him once if he was ever actually turned on by any of the guys who he'd let suck his cock for money.  His answer was " I always kept my focus on the money. THAT was definitely the turn on"

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15 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

he's sucking your dick for money. The money is the most attractive thing in that "relationship"…. I asked him once if he was ever actually turned on by any of the guys….His answer was " I always kept my focus on the money. THAT was definitely the turn on"

Correct.
 

I can recall meeting 3 such guys over the years. All were handsome, muscled, sexually versatile but with a rather masculine vibe in public. They were not actually in need of money. Being paid for sex, however, gave them license to perform acts in private that they’d hesitate to discuss in public.

I still have the memory of a beautiful Italian muscleboy (rather prim and proper in public) just in his briefs and on his knees, “sucking all the cocks” as he’d said he’d do for a group, and taking various loads of cum on his chest and his face. 

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Straight men are fabulous.  They don't like what they are doing but need the money and will therefore perform.  Their masculinity is great, especially military and ex-cons.  And most of them love to yap (mostly about themselves of course).   The majority of them aren't "disgusted" by it either because their inhibitions are almost zero.

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1 hour ago, augustus said:

Straight men are fabulous.  They don't like what they are doing but need the money and will therefore perform.  Their masculinity is great, especially military and ex-cons.  And most of them love to yap (mostly about themselves of course).   The majority of them aren't "disgusted" by it either because their inhibitions are almost zero.

You should know. ;)

~Boomer~

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On 12/15/2022 at 12:31 AM, pubic_assistance said:

Do you believe any of the escorts you hire are "attracted to you" ?

 

I’ll counter that by asking if you’ve ever had sex with a man you’re not attracted to? 
We all have (mercy fucks). However, ask yourself have you (or will you) give those same mercy fucks to women? The answer for most will be “no.” 
Being attracted to someone and being BIOLOGICALLY WIRED to be attracted to a specific gender are two different things (which many people in the comments can’t seem to comprehend.) 

 

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7 hours ago, augustus said:

Straight men are fabulous.  They don't like what they are doing but need the money and will therefore perform.  Their masculinity is great, especially military and ex-cons.  And most of them love to yap (mostly about themselves of course).   The majority of them aren't "disgusted" by it either because their inhibitions are almost zero.

The way you described everything is quite cringey. Is your turn on the actual men? Or the satisfaction of exploiting someone who needs the money? 

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On 12/15/2022 at 3:27 AM, sniper said:

But there is also my theory that most men, gay or straight, are like ducklings and imprint strongly on what they first jerked off to. Given most men are straight, most gays first jerk off to straight men...

Better theory.

I have no "internalized homophobia" that makes me want masculine/ mainstream guys.

I grew up around a lot of very attractive sporty straight guys and THAT is who I was attracted to.

The few gay guys who I knew in High School were a bit effeminate and slender, not fit. So there was no physical attraction.

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