Hiring straight guys

[MscleLovr]

2 hours ago, Danny-Darko said:

Who knows what goes on in people's heads and what motivates them to do what they do. It is quick easy money.…and clearly consensual. 

I strongly agree with this.

[studchaser]

2 hours ago, Danny-Darko said:

Well, it does happen. The few I've encountered were drug addicts (though clean, well dressed and fit) in need of cash and hustled the streets when things got rough. Each had a similar kind of explanation that since really straight they couldn't get hard with a guy. If I tried to suck them, I was warned they wouldn't get hard nor get off and were upfront about it so I wouldn't be disappointed. But they would suck me and get me off fast for $$ that they "really needed". BEST DAMN BJ's I've ever had and the cheapest too! They were clearly disgusted with themselves, and it showed on their faces opening their mouths to take my cock. But once in they were off! They had done it many times before. Like a saying goes "It's not an addiction till you've sucked a dick for it". Another one offered as we shook hands and said goodbye that he "could possibly get screwed" if the money was right. He'd done it before. Again, he couldn't do the "screwing" because he couldn't get hard but would take it for the right amount of money. I admit I enjoyed what we did each time, and they were happy with what they got $$. One even said "Man, you're not hard to please at all! I'll see you anytime you want again". But I never saw him around after that time. It does happen but the circumstances have to be right and clearly sad for a straight man to get to that even though they might be more than willing to do it. There might be others that will play with men on a higher escort level, but I haven't known any. Those escorts I've had claiming straight have been somewhat bi enough to feel comfortable with a man. This has just been my experience. Who knows what goes on in people's heads and what motivates them to do what they do. It is quick easy money and nobody's getting hurt and clearly consensual. 

Ill admit i cant comprehend that level of addiction. I want to find young gay addicts qnd watch them eat out the twat of a fat sweaty elderly woman to see if that level of desperation works both ways.

[Monarchy79]

18 hours ago, studchaser said:

1. Since when does the gaze of the object of lust matter to the luster? If you are watching a rugby match and know the player only dreams of banging shielas(lets pretend hes an Aussie) are we supposed to say im not a shiela so dont engage in any erotic thoughts? Do gay men who are overweight and of advanced age stop fantasizing and drooling over gay men who wouldn't touch em with a ten foot pole? They drool,they solicit,and they get what they need. Money is the most powerful drug known to man 

 

2. This is where I am in total agreement with you. I dont believe anything anyone says on a site just cause they say so. However I am a different case from everyone else as my skills and resources are not available to most 

 

3. If it is confirmed the guy is straight(that is important) then there can be a rush when gwtting someone to participate in any activity that is novel to them. Seeing the way they respond or the things they say. There are alot of authentic scenarios that present that wont when dealing with gay men i.e. giving relief to the undersexed husband/dad or targeting men with certain careers more likely to be straight and alpha male such as fighters,bouncers,cops,athletes etc etc. 

Some men are only attracted to what they deem authentic masculinity. In the absence of that they feel no attraction whatsoever no matter how conventionally attractive the guy is. Some gay mens definition of hot is a 110 pound twink scantilly clad dancing on top of a table. Some gay mens definition of hot are the men they saw growing up and they never learned how to switch to only be attracted to gay men. If we are going to be honest there is a significant difference between how gay men and straight men present. Compare pride parade attendees on average to say attendees a titty bar or a parade for the reigning mlb,nfl,nba,or nhl champs. Its a different demographic and other than anatomy there are almost no other similarities. 

 

Your opinion is definitely your right and I dont believe you are harming anyone but I do believe you are jusging them slightly and we are all guilty of it from time to time. The sentiment of "I dont get why anyone would ....in reference to sex/attraction can always be used against gay ppl in general by anyone who doesn't share those same feelings. Ex. How could you like dick as a man? I dont get it. Trust me its just as baffling if not more to alot more ppl than why a gay man would like the ultimate representation of masculinity a straight man.

 

Great Points!!

I’m with you wholeheartedly.

I think the best way to explain why this topic is somewhat triggering to me (not really, but the topic does ignite deep thought), is for me to show you.

 

look at this rentmen ad:

https://rentmen.eu/Straighthalfarab

I’m sure this dude is charging premium pay, for a potential client to lick his smelly feet and dirty ass. Oh, and he’s made it clear that there will be no sexual intercourse throughout the session. From his pics, he will make no efforts to present a hood presentation of hygiene, or a welcoming environment, and gets a “pass” for sup-par services because he’s fulfilling a “straight”  fetish. 
 

Although people will willingly open their pockets to be “entertained” by him (and have the right to) it’s the principle of the matter that makes me ask: “WHYYYYY!?!?” 

 

[Todd Jenkins]

9 minutes ago, Monarchy79 said:

’m sure this dude is charging premium pay, for a potential client to lick his smelly feet and dirty ass. Oh, and he’s made it clear that there will be no sexual intercourse throughout the session. From his pics, he will make no efforts to present a hood presentation of hygiene, or a welcoming environment, and gets a “pass” for sup-par services because he’s fulfilling a “straight”  fetish. 

EWWWWWWWWW...

[Lazarus]

StraighthalfArab is not a good example of a “straight” guy offering their services on Rentmen. First of all, I’m not buying that he is indeed “straight” & on a scale of 1 to 10 this guy is barely a 3. There are others who claim to be “straight” on Rentmen who are 10 times hotter than this guy that more people would be willing to pay for their “time”. 

[+ StLouisOct]

On 12/14/2022 at 11:05 PM, BabyBoomer said:

https://rentmen.eu/LiamV

~Boomer~

He kisses, which seems unusual for a straight escort. His website says his minimum is two hours for $750. Also unusual.

[Gymowner]

5 minutes ago, StLouisOct said:

He kisses, which seems unusual for a straight escort. His website says his minimum is two hours for $750. Also unusual.

I've never understood the "I need intimacy to kiss someone". No I wouldnt get slobbered on by an old guzzard but I could easily kiss a woman... especially if money involved. Since my lips dont need to get a hard on, it's the ONLY thing I could do with a woman!

[Luv2play]

10 minutes ago, StLouisOct said:

He kisses, which seems unusual for a straight escort. His website says his minimum is two hours for $750. Also unusual.

I don't consider his rates out of line. He is obviously aiming for an elite type client, given his background as he describes it. He doesn't however neglect to tell us his dick is the thickest around. Whether that's true and there is some room for debate, the picture offers evidence of its girth. 

  

[msclwrsper]

I used to be pretty clear on this topic, thinking it’s just part of gay male neurosis because of how we learn about loving with our sexuality. As young boys we hide our feelings and don’t have healthy models of his to love people to whom we are attracted. So our “crushes” are hit or miss - falling for unavailable guys, “straight” guys, or o sensing over other gay guys who have made clear they are not attracted to us in the same way that we are attracted to them. 

However, I’ve come to the realization that straight men, those who “identify” and those are actually straight, are just people who, like us before, do not have words to explain what they are going through, models to follow, or clear ways to express their own attraction. Currently, a straight man who I am in love with but I know I can’t be with loves me incredibly deeply. He is not sexually attracted to me but he is emotionally attracted to me. We are very close friends and he likes to see me be pleasured by being with him, even though he does not get sexually aroused by my arousal. However, he loves to “perform” sexually with me because he knows how much I love him and he wants me to be happy and to enjoy myself by enjoying him. (No, he does not receive money from me nor do I pay his bills or anything of that nature.  We met at a gay club where he was a dancer. But we’ve known each other for six years and we’ve grown to be friends.) 

So I don’t have the answer to it all. I just am coming to a deeper understanding that people are people. And just like I don’t want to be categorized and put into a box, I don’t need to do that to anyone else either. So, if we truly want to allow love to win, I think we need to let each person “love” how they love.  
 

 

[pubic_assistance]

16 hours ago, Danny-Darko said:

BEST DAMN BJ's I've ever had and the cheapest too! They were clearly disgusted with themselves, 

Legitimate question :

Was it a turn-on to know that you were taking advantage of their lack of self esteem and desperation ?

 

[Danny-Darko]

29 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Legitimate question :

Was it a turn-on to know that you were taking advantage of their lack of self esteem and desperation ?

 

No, it was their skill and attractiveness and willingness to satisfy that turned me on. Advantages were both mutual and by mutual choice and agreement and they came on to me just like any hustler would. No different than the straight men stripping and giving private lap dances at a club that do it for money and "desperation" instead of choosing to do something else or even to steal. I wonder if you feel you're exploiting anybody when you hire someone because they chose to sell their body and services rather than do some other job??? 🙄

[pubic_assistance]

4 hours ago, Danny-Darko said:

I wonder if you feel you're exploiting anybody when you hire someone because they chose to sell their body and services rather than do some other job??? 🙄

I do not...But then the people I hire probably have a larger degree of choice in their decisions and less desperation than the person you described.

My inquiry was about the psychological nature of the turn-on. Wanted to know if it was more about easy access to someone with good looks or more of a power trip, where your money was getting someone to be an unwilling sex slave.

Sexual power dynamics interest me because the first time I ever had sex with a man, I was handcuffed and manipulated into performing oral on a State Trooper.

Thanks for your reply.

Edited December 29, 2022 by pubic_assistance
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[Gymowner]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

Legitimate question :

Was it a turn-on to know that you were taking advantage of their lack of self esteem and desperation ?

 

Public... hiring a gay man and paying him can easily be said as the same. Why not including hiring everyone in that explanation? Why just bring up straight men? Or is it the "hope" from the hiree that the gay escort may fall hopelessly in love with the hirer? That to me is more deranged than hiring a straight dude.

[Danny-Darko]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

I do not...But then the people I hire probably have a larger degree of choice in their decisions and less desperation than the person you described.

My inquiry was about the psychological nature of the turn-on. Wanted to know if it was more about easy access to someone with good looks or more of a power trip, where your money was getting someone to be an unwilling sex slave.

Sexual power dynamics interest me because the first time I never had sex with a man, I was handcuffed and manipulated into performing oral on a State Trooper.

Thanks for your reply.

Everybody makes choices and has their own motivation for everything they do. But I see you don't care to reason you only want to be "right" claiming the moral superiority.  🙄

[kdawgster]

I hired a waiter at a favorite restaurant who claimed to be straight - girlfriend, very masculine, etc.  He had done some foolish things with his money and was desperate to make some cash and I teased him a couple times by saying "there's always the pole".  One night I was dining alone and was there when the restaurant closed and he walked up to me and after some smalltalk, he asked if I thought men might hire him for a private show.  I responded that I would like to hire him for a private show as long as there weren't too many boundaries.  We ended up doing a deal and it was fantastic.  His body exceeded my expectations and although he wouldn't go past mutual oral, his performance at both giving and receiving was way better than some escorts I've hired.  I ended up hiring him a second time before he changed jobs. 

[pubic_assistance]

1 hour ago, Gymowner said:

is it the "hope" from the hiree that the gay escort may fall hopelessly in love with the hirer? That to me is more deranged than hiring a straight dude.

Not really following you

In my last comment I said I was interested in the sexual dynamics of power. Using superior economic situation to get a straight guy to submit to your desires.

What does that have to do with love ? 🤔

Edited December 29, 2022 by pubic_assistance

[+ EVdude]

1 hour ago, Danny-Darko said:

Everybody makes choices and has their own motivation for everything they do. But I see you don't care to reason you only want to be "right" claiming the moral superiority.  🙄

I found @pubic_assistance’s response quite sincere and interesting. I’ve only tried bondage a few times and the reality was no match for my crazy intense fantasy world laden with straight men overpowering me. 

[Monarchy79]

5 hours ago, msclwrsper said:

Currently, a straight man who I am in love with but I know I can’t be with loves me incredibly deeply. He is not sexually attracted to me but he is emotionally attracted to me. We are very close friends and he likes to see me be pleasured by being with him, even though he does not get sexually aroused by my arousal. However, he loves to “perform” sexually with me because he knows how much I love him and he wants me to be happy and to enjoy myself by enjoying him. (No, he does not receive money from me nor do I pay his bills or anything of that nature.  We met at a gay club where he was a dancer. But we’ve known each other for six years and we’ve grown to be friends.) 
 

 

Please get this straight guy in contact with me ASAP!!! I’m whipping up a batch of Snake oil, and I need him as my salesman…. 

[Monarchy79]

14 hours ago, Lazarus said:

StraighthalfArab is not a good example of a “straight” guy offering their services on Rentmen. First of all, I’m not buying that he is indeed “straight” & on a scale of 1 to 10 this guy is barely a 3. There are others who claim to be “straight” on Rentmen who are 10 times hotter than this guy that more people would be willing to pay for their “time”. 

One’s level of “hotness” isn’t the point here.

 

[studchaser]

On 12/28/2022 at 5:23 PM, Monarchy79 said:

Great Points!!

I’m with you wholeheartedly.

I think the best way to explain why this topic is somewhat triggering to me (not really, but the topic does ignite deep thought), is for me to show you.

 

look at this rentmen ad:

https://rentmen.eu/Straighthalfarab

I’m sure this dude is charging premium pay, for a potential client to lick his smelly feet and dirty ass. Oh, and he’s made it clear that there will be no sexual intercourse throughout the session. From his pics, he will make no efforts to present a hood presentation of hygiene, or a welcoming environment, and gets a “pass” for sup-par services because he’s fulfilling a “straight”  fetish. 
 

Although people will willingly open their pockets to be “entertained” by him (and have the right to) it’s the principle of the matter that makes me ask: “WHYYYYY!?!?” 

 

Without clicking on the ad im sure you will find what I call a "poser". I do believe alot of gay men who are straight passing abuse the system more than anyone else. Straight men are genuinely few and far between in this biz and naturally they have more limitstions and a higher bargain. That is different than the affected style of presentation you see from the "posers" who simply offer less value.

 

The distinctions might not be palpable or may be meaningless to some but for those that can distinguish the two it is everything. Part of the reason the distinction between the two matters is because ppl cant change their orientation but ppl can learn to manipulate identity. That is why I dont deal with straight fakers or should I say fake straights and I tell ppl get your straight men from an authentic source or you are contributing to the loss of value of your own money 

Edited December 30, 2022 by studchaser

[studchaser]

On 12/28/2022 at 6:59 PM, pubic_assistance said:

Legitimate question :

Was it a turn-on to know that you were taking advantage of their lack of self esteem and desperation ?

 

As someone who considers myself a straight whisperer or maybe even THE straight whisperer I agree with you.J dissaprove of trying to get strsight guys to bottom or suck dick. Those are the thibgs that will make them wake up the next day feel disgusted with themself and kill you in a rage(if they were actually straight). When dealing with straight men I recommend sticking with the usual paradigms that make sense when seeking the company of a straight man. I lowkey think gay men who wanna top straight guys have a fantasy with sociopathic and sinister influences. So i side eye all the ppl on here with endless talks about straight bottoms bevause most likely theyvare being conned by some gay dude but in the rare event the guy was actually straight they should know they are doing something that could turn out to be damaging and worse if he is a first timer you the client might turn out to be a last timer who may soon be referred to as the late great version of yourself.

[kyleham]

I met a guy who worked in a popular club/bar who was a gogo/stripper. The guy was absolutely stunning. Beautiful, a body to do die for, abs of steel who just oozed sex appeal. To me he was irresistible. After seeing him many times in the bar we got together. He turned out to be a great companion. We had a lot in common and over time hung out, went to dinner, bars and hung out at my place. I was in lust. At the beginning it was muscle worship and oral. Over time it became much more finally leading to anal. Todays guys are much more sexual fluid. Yes he's straight not bi. Yes he was gay4 pay. It wasn't about being gay or straight it was about the connection and enjoyed hanging out. Nothing more nothing less.

[+ Pensant]

A bit OT, but I have several straight-identifying friends in their mid-20s who genuinely seem to enjoy my company, humor and intellect. Last night I took one out for a drink and then dropped him off at his dad’s apartment, since he was visiting family from LA. I’d love to sleep with him, but would never cross that boundary. I suppose I just like their youth and beauty and being seen in public with them. Perhaps it’s my admittedly ongoing desire to be young again. It’s not a frustrating thing to me at all. It’s just something I’ve always done.

[MscleLovr]

7 minutes ago, Pensant said:

I suppose I just like their youth and beauty and being seen in public with them. Perhaps it’s my admittedly ongoing desire to be young again.

Very nicely put. I too enjoy the company of attractive young men. It’s not about sexual desire. They make engaging companions, have energy and intellectual curiosity about the world. They contrast well with some of my old friends whose views are now rather rigid and who are now unwilling to try new things.

[pubic_assistance]

7 hours ago, kyleham said:

Over time it became much more finally leading to anal. Todays guys are much more sexual fluid. Yes he's straight not bi.

If he's having anal sex with a man, he is officially no longer "straight".

I am married to a woman for 15 years and have two kids. Outwardly "straight-acting" and few people would guess I was anything but straight.

However, my habit of fucking cute muscle bottom men, makes me NOT straight. Call it sexually fluid but it's not "straight".